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YoshitoKikuchi
12/10/18 12:37:33 PM
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Or are you waiting for the investigation to finish first?
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SSJKirby
12/10/18 12:39:54 PM
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He's been downhill ever since he said Pluto wasn't a planet
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eston
12/10/18 12:39:57 PM
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The only accusation I've even read any details of was the weird handshake one, and no I still think the guy's a weirdo who is given far too much credit
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AvantgardeAClue
12/10/18 12:40:41 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
He's been downhill ever since he said Pluto wasn't a planet

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Twin3Turbo
12/10/18 12:42:37 PM
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The only accusations I've heard are of him making passes at women and them rejecting, so no my opinion of him hasn't changed. Not that I ever really cared that much for the guy. That being said, I haven't looked further into any accusations so if he's been accused of potentially doing anything worse, I'd certainly take that into consideration.
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Jagr_68
12/10/18 12:43:49 PM
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Obviously there needs to be more information and evidence presented to at least pass judgment.
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SpiralDrift
12/10/18 12:44:59 PM
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EggNogPrince posted...
He is a rapist so yep. Enough people have came forward to the point where his career is over like Kevin Spacey.

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BestInTheWorId
12/10/18 12:47:29 PM
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Why is he so famous? There's tons of scientists and we focus on him?
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P4wn4g3
12/10/18 12:47:36 PM
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It's never been high. He's another one of those guys who invests in time travel.
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eston
12/10/18 12:50:47 PM
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BestInTheWorId posted...
Why is he so famous? There's tons of scientists and we focus on him?

Because he's an entertainer
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Questionmarktarius
12/10/18 12:51:24 PM
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EggNogPrince posted...
He is a rapist so yep. Enough people have came forward to the point where his career is over like Kevin Spacey.

Kevin Spacey admitted doing so, and then tried to spin sympathy-begging out of it.
As far I know, NdGT is claiming innocence.
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Blue_Target
12/10/18 12:53:57 PM
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BestInTheWorId posted...
Why is he so famous? There's tons of scientists and we focus on him?

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boxington
12/10/18 12:53:57 PM
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I wanna say that my opinion on him is cautiously neutral.

obviously if he did what he was accused of, my opinion of him would be really low

BestInTheWorId posted...
Why is he so famous? There's tons of scientists and we focus on him?

he helps communicate scientific ideas to the public in a the average person might be better to understand and/or appreciate
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bulbinking
12/10/18 1:05:27 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
He's been downhill ever since he said Pluto wasn't a planet


Then was plugging his friends science fiction book as real science

Never had a good opinion of the guy.

Also Bill Nye doesnt even have a phd!

Yes your childhood is a lie.
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DifferentialEquation
12/10/18 1:08:18 PM
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I consider him innocent until he's proven guilty.
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P4wn4g3
12/10/18 1:09:21 PM
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bulbinking posted...
Also Bill Nye doesnt even have a phd!

Did he ever claim to? He did work as a rocket scientist.
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bulbinking
12/10/18 1:14:59 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
bulbinking posted...
Also Bill Nye doesnt even have a phd!

Did he ever claim to? He did work as a rocket scientist.


Not quite. He didnt actually design or program anything (the smartguy science stuff) he worked physical engineering (heavy lifting basically)

He isnt a scientist. Hes an engineer, and even then not even a doctor. My wife has bigger STEM credentials but people would believe bill nye over her because hes on TV. (yeah im mad over something personal but I still wish he was more than a popsci mouthpiece)
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Questionmarktarius
12/10/18 1:16:51 PM
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bulbinking posted...
Also Bill Nye doesnt even have a phd!

Neither does Morgan Freeman.
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P4wn4g3
12/10/18 1:18:01 PM
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bulbinking posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
bulbinking posted...
Also Bill Nye doesnt even have a phd!

Did he ever claim to? He did work as a rocket scientist.


Not quite. He didnt actually design or program anything (the smartguy science stuff) he worked physical engineering (heavy lifting basically)

He isnt a scientist. Hes an engineer, and even then not even a doctor. My wife has bigger STEM credentials but people would believe bill nye over her because hes on TV. (yeah im mad over something personal but I still wish he was more than a popsci mouthpiece)

being a rocket scientist doesn't really give him the credentials to speak on a lot of the things he does these days. That doesn't take away from his actual work though, or diminish anyone else's.
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Taharqa_
12/10/18 1:19:43 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
bulbinking posted...
Also Bill Nye doesnt even have a phd!

Neither does Morgan Freeman.


I think of them along with NDT as science ambassadors. Nye and NDT kinda took the torch from Carl Sagan after his passing in that department although Nye had his show before then.
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COVxy
12/10/18 1:20:05 PM
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Never had a particularly high opinion of him (because I think he represents a big portion of what is wrong about science communication), though he was pretty down to earth when he visited my uni.

Idk, the relatively innocuous stories in combination with the clearly partisan intial reporting has me hesitant.
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YoshitoKikuchi
12/10/18 2:53:29 PM
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COVxy posted...
Never had a particularly high opinion of him (because I think he represents a big portion of what is wrong about science communication), though he was pretty down to earth when he visited my uni.

Idk, the relatively innocuous stories in combination with the clearly partisan intial reporting has me hesitant.


Neat that you met him!
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BLAKUboy
12/10/18 3:00:21 PM
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I never had an opinion on him until this last year or so, when I realized he's an idiot. I haven't really been following this story, but it wouldn't surprise me all that much.
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Questionmarktarius
12/10/18 3:00:30 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
bulbinking posted...
Also Bill Nye doesnt even have a phd!

Neither does Morgan Freeman.


I think of them along with NDT as science ambassadors. Nye and NDT kinda took the torch from Carl Sagan after his passing in that department although Nye had his show before then.

Sagan was passed that torch by Richard Feynman anyway.
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soulunison2
12/10/18 3:01:52 PM
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He was never my friend
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Fony
12/10/18 3:04:13 PM
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Nope.
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edededdy
12/10/18 3:05:31 PM
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ive never been a fan of him.
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AlephZero
12/10/18 3:09:08 PM
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black science man has always been a pompous asshole
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omega cookie
12/10/18 3:10:01 PM
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Everybody has known for years that he's a shitty person. Just look up any of the stories of him fucking over colleges. The fact that he may or may not be a sick fuck doesn't really change that.

Doesn't take away from what he has done in furthering science and encouraging kids to be more interested in it. Much the same way that naming his cat "N***** Man" doesn't take away from H.P. Lovecraft being a literary genius and the father of modern horror, it just makes him a shitty person.
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SH_expert44
12/10/18 3:11:02 PM
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The only science guy i can trust is Beakman from Beakmans World. Maybe the rat guy too. he seemed on the level.
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UnfairRepresent
12/10/18 3:14:00 PM
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I don't get why people rag on Bill Nye so much

Has he ever bragged about his credentials? I've never heard him do so.

He just wants to promote and teach science for kids. He's never claimed to be a heavyweight expert leading the charge in dramatic breakthroughs.
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UnfairRepresent
12/10/18 3:15:00 PM
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omega cookie posted...
Everybody has known for years that he's a shitty person. Just look up any of the stories of him fucking over colleges. The fact that he may or may not be a sick fuck doesn't really change that.

Doesn't take away from what he has done in furthering science and encouraging kids to be more interested in it. Much the same way that naming his cat "N***** Man" doesn't take away from H.P. Lovecraft being a literary genius and the father of modern horror, it just makes him a shitty person.

Doesn't one of Lovecraft's stories end with a guy discovering his father or grandfather was black so he sets himself on fire and burns to death?
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SpiralDrift
12/10/18 3:15:06 PM
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Michio Kaku is the best popsci guy. He has the most credentials, got the interesting hair, willing to talk about aliens and other weird shit just for fun and doesn't have an ego.
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omega cookie
12/10/18 3:15:52 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get why people rag on Bill Nye so much

Bill Nye is a self centered, self important fuck.

UnfairRepresent posted...
omega cookie posted...
Everybody has known for years that he's a shitty person. Just look up any of the stories of him fucking over colleges. The fact that he may or may not be a sick fuck doesn't really change that.

Doesn't take away from what he has done in furthering science and encouraging kids to be more interested in it. Much the same way that naming his cat "N***** Man" doesn't take away from H.P. Lovecraft being a literary genius and the father of modern horror, it just makes him a shitty person.

Doesn't one of Lovecraft's stories end with a guy discovering his father or grandfather was black so he sets himself on fire and burns to death?

Oh, he was a racist bag of shit for sure. The Mythos are still a landmark in horror literature. Doesn't make everything he wrote acceptable, but still.
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Deadpool_18
12/10/18 3:16:15 PM
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eston posted...
I still think the guy's a weirdo who is given far too much credit

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Deadpool_18
12/10/18 3:18:33 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
omega cookie posted...
Everybody has known for years that he's a shitty person. Just look up any of the stories of him fucking over colleges. The fact that he may or may not be a sick fuck doesn't really change that.

Doesn't take away from what he has done in furthering science and encouraging kids to be more interested in it. Much the same way that naming his cat "N***** Man" doesn't take away from H.P. Lovecraft being a literary genius and the father of modern horror, it just makes him a shitty person.

Doesn't one of Lovecraft's stories end with a guy discovering his father or grandfather was black so he sets himself on fire and burns to death?


Its not a secret that Lovecraft was racist. The debate lies within whether someone chooses to separate an artist or writers personal beliefs from the art they produced.
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COVxy
12/10/18 3:24:43 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get why people rag on Bill Nye so much

Has he ever bragged about his credentials? I've never heard him do so.

He just wants to promote and teach science for kids. He's never claimed to be a heavyweight expert leading the charge in dramatic breakthroughs.


Tbf, engineers usually have a very different outlook on science than scientists do. It's strange to have an engineer as a spokesperson for the scientific enterprise.
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UnfairRepresent
12/10/18 3:25:51 PM
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COVxy posted...


Tbf, engineers usually have a very outlook on science than scientists do.

They accidentially a whole science
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P4wn4g3
12/10/18 3:35:41 PM
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COVxy posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get why people rag on Bill Nye so much

Has he ever bragged about his credentials? I've never heard him do so.

He just wants to promote and teach science for kids. He's never claimed to be a heavyweight expert leading the charge in dramatic breakthroughs.


Tbf, engineers usually have a very different outlook on science than scientists do. It's strange to have an engineer as a spokesperson for the scientific enterprise.

How do you think their outlook is different?
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bulbinking
12/10/18 3:44:09 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get why people rag on Bill Nye so much

Has he ever bragged about his credentials? I've never heard him do so.

He just wants to promote and teach science for kids. He's never claimed to be a heavyweight expert leading the charge in dramatic breakthroughs.


BECAUSE MY SEX JUNK IS SO MOAR-OR-OR!!

P4wn4g3 posted...
COVxy posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't get why people rag on Bill Nye so much

Has he ever bragged about his credentials? I've never heard him do so.

He just wants to promote and teach science for kids. He's never claimed to be a heavyweight expert leading the charge in dramatic breakthroughs.


Tbf, engineers usually have a very different outlook on science than scientists do. It's strange to have an engineer as a spokesperson for the scientific enterprise.

How do you think their outlook is different?


Just ask literally any scientist or engineer.

They have been at odds since the disciples split centuries ago.
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Kineth
12/10/18 3:44:38 PM
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Where's the fucking poll.
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Vyrulisse
12/10/18 3:45:30 PM
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It was already low because he's the ultimate killjoy "know-it-all" type. Now he's even worse so I guess you could say it diminished as much as it could.
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Kineth
12/10/18 3:46:24 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
It was already low because he's the ultimate killjoy "know-it-all" type.


That's exactly you though. Must be hard to look yourself in the mirror.
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Vyrulisse
12/10/18 3:47:03 PM
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Kineth posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
It was already low because he's the ultimate killjoy "know-it-all" type.


That's exactly you though. Must be hard to look yourself in the mirror.

It's literally not

I'm fun and cool
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P4wn4g3
12/10/18 3:51:06 PM
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bulbinking posted...
Just ask literally any scientist or engineer.

That's unhelpful. And anyway I wasn't asking you.
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Veggeta X
12/10/18 3:54:13 PM
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There's a reddit article where these college kids come up with enough money to get him to come and teach them a class and apparently he went apeshit towards them telling them what they're majoring is a worthless sack of shit. Can anyone find this?
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P4wn4g3
12/10/18 3:58:52 PM
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Eh, any undergrad degree can arguably be "worthless"
Continuing Ed / Advanced Degrees are where the actual money is.
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Kineth
12/10/18 4:18:22 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Kineth posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
It was already low because he's the ultimate killjoy "know-it-all" type.


That's exactly you though. Must be hard to look yourself in the mirror.

It's literally not

I'm fun and cool


Well, ok. I'm sure that NdGT is too.
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Ray_Dorset
12/10/18 4:19:24 PM
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Haven't kept up with this rape thing at all. Never liked his personality before though
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