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Acceptance
12/07/18 2:01:48 PM
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https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/7/eric-sprankle-minn-professor-says-virgin-mary-didn/

An associate professor at Minnesota State University in Mankato sparked backlash on social media this week after he claimed the Virgin Mary didnt give consent to conceiving the Christ child.

Eric Sprankle, an associate professor of psychology and a certified sex therapist, tweeted Monday from his verified Twitter account that the virgin birth story is about an all-knowing, all-powerful deity impregnating a human teen.

There is no definition of consent that would include that scenario, he wrote.

Mr. Sprankle told his 17,000 Twitter followers that Gods treatment of Mary was an unethical abuse of power at best and grossly predatory at worst.

One commenter argued that Mary clearly gave consent in the Gospel according to Luke, adding, whether you believe or disbelieve, it helps if you actually read the text.

The biblical god regularly punished disobedience, Mr. Sprankleresponded. The power difference (deity vs mortal) and the potential for violence for saying no negates her yes.


So, are we gonna go after God now?
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AlecSkorpio
12/07/18 2:03:35 PM
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The war on Christianity continues
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BignutzisBack
12/07/18 2:03:56 PM
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ChainedRedone
12/07/18 2:03:59 PM
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Acceptance posted...
So, are we gonna go after God now?


Oh no, think of all the triggered fairy tale believers! Poor them!
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Duncanwii
12/07/18 2:04:01 PM
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Its true though.
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WinterFestival
12/07/18 2:04:05 PM
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What do you mean now? People have been attacking God and religion for centuries
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ThePrinceFish
12/07/18 2:04:20 PM
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gwCDnaT
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frogman_295
12/07/18 2:04:50 PM
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jesus christ
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Zikten
12/07/18 2:06:25 PM
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frogman_295 posted...
jesus christ
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yes, exactly
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t_paynes_ghost
12/07/18 2:06:43 PM
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Man, this is some A+ trolling here.
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Damn_Underscore
12/07/18 2:06:45 PM
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This is so stupid.

When is he going to attack Greek mythology BTW?
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Muffinz0rz
12/07/18 2:07:31 PM
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Acceptance posted...
The power difference (deity vs mortal) and the potential for violence for saying no negates her yes.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Vyrulisse
12/07/18 2:08:07 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
Acceptance posted...
So, are we gonna go after God now?


Oh no, think of all the triggered fairy tale believers! Poor them!

IHfzh2E
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ChainedRedone
12/07/18 2:09:02 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
This is so stupid.

When is he going to attack Greek mythology BTW?


You do realize nobody actually believes in that anymore, right?

Muffinz0rz posted...
Acceptance posted...
The power difference (deity vs mortal) and the potential for violence for saying no negates her yes.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


That's literally the law.
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Acceptance
12/07/18 2:09:04 PM
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WWE will have to edit that match where Vince McMahon fights god.

Maybe hell get a suspension.
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Damn_Underscore
12/07/18 2:09:27 PM
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t_paynes_ghost posted...
Man, this is some A+ trolling here.


This guy is an academic doctor with credibility to maintain though.
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Lebronwon
12/07/18 2:11:12 PM
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no wonder christians don't have problem with priests raping children

it's the central value of their belief system
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Damn_Underscore
12/07/18 2:11:43 PM
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It turns out this guy is a Satanist

lmfao
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eston
12/07/18 2:12:12 PM
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He more or less did to her what we do in order to breed livestock, they don't fucking consent to that but we are humans and they are animals. Think of God as the human in this scenario
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Acceptance
12/07/18 2:12:26 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
no wonder christians don't have problem with priests raping children

it's the central value of their belief system


Yeah I guess this is exclusive to Christianity right? Its not like Allah di. *is shot*
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/07/18 2:13:07 PM
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What did he say that was incorrect?
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SSJCAT
12/07/18 2:16:43 PM
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this sounds like a troll lol
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Zikten
12/07/18 2:38:33 PM
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There are greek neopagans actually
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Anteaterking
12/07/18 2:48:13 PM
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eston posted...
He more or less did to her what we do in order to breed livestock, they don't fucking consent to that but we are humans and they are animals. Think of God as the human in this scenario


This.

It's weird to simultaneously argue from a position where God is all powerful, able to impregnate Mary without touching her, etc. and also act like we're even close enough in stature to talk about "power differentials" regarding consent.
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SH_expert44
12/07/18 2:50:06 PM
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Anteaterking posted...

It's weird to simultaneously argue from a position where God is all powerful, able to impregnate Mary without touching her, etc. and also act like we're even close enough in stature to talk about "power differentials" regarding consent.

Wouldnt it be more like a dude banging a dog then?
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Anteaterking
12/07/18 2:50:44 PM
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SH_expert44 posted...
Wouldnt it be more like a dude banging a dog then?


I think it's even further apart than that though.
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BlueTigerLion
12/07/18 2:53:00 PM
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If we are believing everything God did. There wouldn't even be women if he didn't create them.
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LastTomorrow
12/07/18 2:53:17 PM
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Also you think God would do it the same way humans do? Zeus basically went raw dog. God snapped his fingers and had Mary carry Jesus for 9 months.
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eston
12/07/18 3:21:32 PM
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SH_expert44 posted...
Anteaterking posted...

It's weird to simultaneously argue from a position where God is all powerful, able to impregnate Mary without touching her, etc. and also act like we're even close enough in stature to talk about "power differentials" regarding consent.

Wouldnt it be more like a dude banging a dog then?

No, because there was no sex
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DaveTheUseless
12/07/18 3:24:42 PM
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SH_expert44 posted...
Anteaterking posted...

It's weird to simultaneously argue from a position where God is all powerful, able to impregnate Mary without touching her, etc. and also act like we're even close enough in stature to talk about "power differentials" regarding consent.

Wouldnt it be more like a dude banging a dog then?


What does Tom DeLonge have to do with this
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Esrac
12/07/18 3:54:22 PM
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If you buy the mythology, then God is above something as minor and petty as human consent.
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ThyCorndog
12/07/18 3:56:19 PM
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#marytoo
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P4wn4g3
12/07/18 3:57:18 PM
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technically God would know if she's up for it.

anyway Mary wrote the bible as an excuse for her cheating on her husband.
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Zodd3224
12/07/18 3:58:24 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
#marytoo

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prince_leo
12/07/18 3:58:51 PM
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Esrac posted...
If you buy the mythology, then God is above something as minor and petty as human consent.

OT God was straight up petty af
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creativerealms
12/07/18 4:01:49 PM
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That's not wrong. She didn't. She and Joseph were waiting for marriage to have sex when God knocked her up. That is what Gods' do. YHWH learned that from the likes of Zues.
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philsov
12/07/18 4:05:25 PM
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It was either coercion or she was manipulated into "freely accepting" god's seed.

Acceptance posted...
So, are we gonna go after God now?


Not a worthwhile endeavor. What's He gonna do? Get shamed and issue an apology? He's fucking God. He'll smite whoever the fuck he wants and get more people pregnant.
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WesternMedia
12/07/18 4:06:04 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
That's literally the law

I mean, the law also declares there to need penetration or at least some sort of sexual contact.
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Gafemage
12/07/18 4:25:31 PM
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Between this dude, that officer with the tacky Christmas tree & the Chipotle dine-and-dash guys, my states been taking some Ls lately...
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CHAON1
12/07/18 4:34:56 PM
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I also enjoy a good fictional story
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Devil_Katt_II
12/07/18 4:35:52 PM
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saving humanity was a mistake, jesus christ
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DaveTheUseless
12/07/18 4:42:42 PM
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saving humanity was a mistake, charlie brown
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HylianFox
12/07/18 4:43:40 PM
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actually, she did

"Let it be unto me as you have foretold"
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Thaddeus_J_Pibb
12/07/18 4:47:31 PM
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Idk that it's anything to get all rules up about, but for the sake of discussion he is technically correct lol.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
12/07/18 4:51:24 PM
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Even if it wasn't all fiction, the creator of the universe wouldn't need our consent.

I'm not one to say, "it's okay because god" but he didn't rape her, he gifted upon her a miracle.
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HylianFox
12/07/18 4:52:52 PM
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you really think God couldn't have found someone else if she said "oh HELL no"?

Original Sin occurred in the first place because we have free will
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Tupacrulez
12/07/18 4:56:25 PM
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eston posted...
He more or less did to her what we do in order to breed livestock, they don't fucking consent to that but we are humans and they are animals. Think of God as the human in this scenario


LOLNO.

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A_Good_Boy
12/07/18 4:56:58 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Even if it wasn't all fiction, the creator of the universe wouldn't need our consent.

I'm not one to say, "it's okay because god" but he didn't rape her, he gifted upon her a miracle.

Seems like one of those "when you have lemons" situations. If God were to force himself upon me I'd say it was the most miraculous thing to happen to me too, just in case he might come back again if I didn't.
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DaveTheUseless
12/07/18 4:59:33 PM
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i guess it says a lot that the more people try to explain this the more uncomfortable i feel
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