Current Events > To opponents of UBI: What's your answer to automation?

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Garioshi 11/30/18 6:28:17 PM #1:	Automation is here and it's only getting bigger. Nearly every job you can think of will become automated at some point, and soon. Robots can simply do most human jobs better, with less errors, and more efficiently. This will result in a larger and larger amount of people who cannot get a job because they're strictly inferior to robots. UBI would fix this issue by giving everyone a regular income independently of the number of people who can work. How can you say no to that? --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:913324383] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>Automation is here and it's only getting bigger. Nearly every job you can think of will become automated at some point, and soon. Robots can simply do most human jobs better, with less errors, and more efficiently. This will result in a larger and larger amount of people who cannot get a job because they're strictly inferior to robots. UBI would fix this issue by giving everyone a regular income independently of the number of people who can work. How can you say no to that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe_stalin518 11/30/18 6:30:13 PM #2:	The great American leap forward --- how does super mario world work without updates? Relax I know what I'm doing,I been killing topics since 1987 <cite>joe_stalin518 posted [p:913324479] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>The great American leap forward</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 11/30/18 6:30:32 PM #3:	robots own --- https://i.imgtc.com/LCLKlZX.gif Life Fiber Kamui SENKETSU! <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:913324502] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>robots own</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 11/30/18 6:31:33 PM #5:	suicide. --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:913324561] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>suicide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
REMercsChamp 11/30/18 6:31:51 PM #6:	People can upgrade and make themselves relevant to society and get some skills other than brainless manual labor in 2019 --- Come check out my community board for NEET discussions: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1467-neet-discussions <cite>REMercsChamp posted [p:913324578] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>People can upgrade and make themselves relevant to society and get some skills other than brainless manual labor in 2019</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 11/30/18 6:32:05 PM #7:	The same answer to when people panicked over the creation of assembly lines: new industries will open up that require low skill workers that support or augment autonomy in ways that it cannot handle. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:913324590] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>The same answer to when people panicked over the creation of assembly lines: new industries will open up that require low skill workers that support or augment autonomy in ways that it cannot handle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiderofHogs 11/30/18 6:33:16 PM #8:	WhinyZach posted... get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon They have giant 3D printers that can do that now. Just need a handful of people to put it together. --- I'll be riding shotgun, underneath the hot sun, Feeling like a someone. <cite>RiderofHogs posted [p:913324649] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhinyZach posted...</cite> <quote>get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon</quote> They have giant 3D printers that can do that now. Just need a handful of people to put it together.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 11/30/18 6:33:23 PM #9:	Garioshi posted... Automation is here and it's only getting bigger. Nearly every job you can think of will become automated at some point, and soon. No. It's really not. --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:913324653] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote>Automation is here and it's only getting bigger. Nearly every job you can think of will become automated at some point, and soon. </quote> No. It's really not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 11/30/18 6:38:54 PM #10:	s0nicfan posted... The same answer to when people panicked over the creation of assembly lines: new industries will open up that require low skill workers that support or augment autonomy in ways that it cannot handle. Automation is different. Robots can take over practically any low skill labor, including whatever might come out of automating all current low skill labor jobs. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:913324923] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The same answer to when people panicked over the creation of assembly lines: new industries will open up that require low skill workers that support or augment autonomy in ways that it cannot handle.</quote> Automation is different. Robots can take over practically any low skill labor, including whatever might come out of automating all current low skill labor jobs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 11/30/18 6:39:37 PM #11:	WhinyZach posted... get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon A few years ago they had some drones that can. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:913324966] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhinyZach posted...</cite> <quote>get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon</quote> A few years ago they had some drones that can.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Catgirl Fondler 11/30/18 6:41:34 PM #12:	Their answer is for low skill workers to hang themselves with their bootstraps. Seriously, don't expect this audience to give a damn. "Fuck you, got mine" as they love to say. --- N/A <cite>The Catgirl Fondler posted [p:913325071] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>Their answer is for low skill workers to hang themselves with their bootstraps. Seriously, don't expect this audience to give a damn. "Fuck you, got mine" as they love to say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 11/30/18 6:41:43 PM #13:	It's not drying up the pool of jobs rather than raising the average skill requirements of jobs. Which is still a problem, just a different one. --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:913325083] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>It's not drying up the pool of jobs rather than raising the average skill requirements of jobs. Which is still a problem, just a different one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 11/30/18 6:45:16 PM #14:	Garioshi posted... s0nicfan posted... The same answer to when people panicked over the creation of assembly lines: new industries will open up that require low skill workers that support or augment autonomy in ways that it cannot handle. Automation is different. Robots can take over practically any low skill labor, including whatever might come out of automating all current low skill labor jobs. Not really, no. How much do you actually know about autonomy and robotics? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:913325273] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote><cite>Garioshi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The same answer to when people panicked over the creation of assembly lines: new industries will open up that require low skill workers that support or augment autonomy in ways that it cannot handle.</quote> Automation is different. Robots can take over practically any low skill labor, including whatever might come out of automating all current low skill labor jobs.</quote> Not really, no. How much do you actually know about autonomy and robotics?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitlord_Special 11/30/18 6:47:00 PM #15:	Theres no real good answer that doesnt involve people being worth less than nothing and being treated as such Problem with thinking the economic pyramid can just grow bigger, only with robots at the bottom and people in all the higher positions, is that the Earth and its resources are already being crushed under the foundation of what we have so making it bigger is just going to lead to a more spectacular collapse when it gives out from under us --- Posted from my iPhone 8 <cite>Pitlord_Special posted [p:913325358] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>Theres no real good answer that doesnt involve people being worth less than nothing and being treated as such Problem with thinking the economic pyramid can just grow bigger, only with robots at the bottom and people in all the higher positions, is that the Earth and its resources are already being crushed under the foundation of what we have so making it bigger is just going to lead to a more spectacular collapse when it gives out from under us</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 11/30/18 6:53:42 PM #17:	So in this magical world where automation has taken over most low skill jobs and everyone has become educated and now has the skills to compete in this new world, the competition will still drive wages through the floor. There will still only be some many jobs available. If everyone has the skills the do them that means that employers will be able to pay rock bottom wages and if you don't like it, well guess what, there are a few million other people out there with the same skills and a desire not to starve who will take your job. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:913325699] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>So in this magical world where automation has taken over most low skill jobs and everyone has become educated and now has the skills to compete in this new world, the competition will still drive wages through the floor. There will still only be some many jobs available. If everyone has the skills the do them that means that employers will be able to pay rock bottom wages and if you don't like it, well guess what, there are a few million other people out there with the same skills and a desire not to starve who will take your job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 11/30/18 6:54:17 PM #19:	WhinyZach posted... RiderofHogs posted... WhinyZach posted... get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon They have giant 3D printers that can do that now. Just need a handful of people to put it together. lol darkphoenix181 posted... WhinyZach posted... get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon A few years ago they had some drones that can. lol lol what? both of those are literal facts. they already 3d print buildings in china --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:913325727] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhinyZach posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RiderofHogs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WhinyZach posted...</cite> <quote>get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon</quote> They have giant 3D printers that can do that now. Just need a handful of people to put it together.</quote> lol <cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WhinyZach posted...</cite> <quote>get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon</quote> A few years ago they had some drones that can.</quote> lol</quote> lol what? both of those are literal facts. they already 3d print buildings in china</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EliteC 11/30/18 6:54:55 PM #20:	WhinyZach posted... get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon 3D printing say hi <cite>EliteC posted [p:913325756] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhinyZach posted...</cite> <quote>get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon</quote> 3D printing say hi</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 11/30/18 6:56:17 PM #21:	DuranOfForcena posted... i'd presume they would want government regulation limiting automation, more of the same kind of regulations they have always lobbied for that are pro-business and pro-capitalist at any cost, whether it be the environment, technological progress, personal liberty, etc. (and this from the party that is supposedly against big government intervention, no less) is there anything more pro-business then a machine that can work all day and doesn't get paid? --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:913325816] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>i'd presume they would want government regulation limiting automation, more of the same kind of regulations they have always lobbied for that are pro-business and pro-capitalist at any cost, whether it be the environment, technological progress, personal liberty, etc. (and this from the party that is supposedly against big government intervention, no less)</quote> is there anything more pro-business then a machine that can work all day and doesn't get paid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 11/30/18 6:57:28 PM #22:	That's nothing we need to worry about at present. If automation ever gets to the point of taking out most jobs, society will likely have progressed to a different kind of living. As of right now, every job that is replaced will open up several new ones. <cite>nemu posted [p:913325883] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>That's nothing we need to worry about at present. If automation ever gets to the point of taking out most jobs, society will likely have progressed to a different kind of living. As of right now, every job that is replaced will open up several new ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WinterFestival 11/30/18 7:00:24 PM #25:	EliteC posted... WhinyZach posted... get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon 3D printing say hi No it doesnt, it cant talk <cite>WinterFestival posted [p:913326054] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote><cite>EliteC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WhinyZach posted...</cite> <quote>get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon</quote> 3D printing say hi</quote> No it doesnt, it cant talk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 11/30/18 7:03:17 PM #26:	I support UBI, but I can totally see society shifting more towards human/service-centric jobs that robots simply cannot do. Robots can automate, but we're all social creatures and most of us would rather turn to a human being instead of some machinery we can't relate to. --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:913326209] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>I support UBI, but I can totally see society shifting more towards human/service-centric jobs that robots simply cannot do. Robots can automate, but we're all social creatures and most of us would rather turn to a human being instead of some machinery we can't relate to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 11/30/18 11:02:31 PM #28:	WhinyZach posted... It's a funny joke that you think skilled tradesman will be replaced by robots any time soon. Yes i've seen videos of it. I've been a contractor my whole life. You need to be human to do most of the stuff in the building. I'm talking about skilled trades here, not guys that dig holes. But when everyone has to get those skills because those are the only jobs available makes the value of your skills plummet, which is exactly the point. Then the employers can pay you next to nothing and if you don't want to accept it they'll give the job to one of the billion people who have those skills and doesn't want to starve. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:913337723] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhinyZach posted...</cite> <quote>It's a funny joke that you think skilled tradesman will be replaced by robots any time soon. Yes i've seen videos of it. I've been a contractor my whole life. You need to be human to do most of the stuff in the building. I'm talking about skilled trades here, not guys that dig holes.</quote> But when everyone has to get those skills because those are the only jobs available makes the value of your skills plummet, which is exactly the point. Then the employers can pay you next to nothing and if you don't want to accept it they'll give the job to one of the billion people who have those skills and doesn't want to starve.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 11/30/18 11:04:28 PM #29:	fully automated luxury communism --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:913337802] in To opponen... [t:77255928]...</cite> <quote>fully automated luxury communism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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