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Antifar
11/29/18 10:44:36 PM
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https://splinternews.com/cnn-fires-commentator-marc-lamont-hill-after-pro-palest-1830753131
Temple University professor Marc Lamont Hill was fired from his role as a CNN commentator after he gave a speech critical of Israel at the United Nations on Wednesday, Mediaite reported on Thursday.

We have an opportunity to not just offer solidarity in words, Hill said at the conclusion of his speech during a Palestinian solidarity event, but to commit to political action, grass-roots action, local action and international action that will give us what justice requires and that is a free Palestine from the river to the sea.

Immediately, pro-Israel commentators and groups jumped on Hills comments as anti-Semitic and even genocidal, due to the free Palestine from the river to the sea lines association with Palestinian nationalist groups.

The virulent anti-Semitism spewed by Marc Lamont Hill is abhorrent, and his senseless promotion of violence against Israel is repugnant, the National Council of Young Israel said on Wednesday. With his racist views and unabashed denigration of Israel, Dr. Hill does not deserve to be given any sort of platform that facilitates the dissemination of his bigotry, whether it be on Cable TV or in a classroom.

Hill responded on Thursday and stressed that he said nothing even remotely calling for violence against Jewish peoplebecause he, uh, didnt.

https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/status/1068172838971088898

Apparently, this wasnt enough for CNN. Marc Lamont Hill is no longer under contract with CNN, a CNN spokesperson confirmed to Mediaite on Thursday.

It shouldnt need to be pointed out that this is an objectively ridiculous response to what Hill said, especially in the context of his earlier comments during the speech comparing the apartheid-like conditions the Israeli government has imposed on Palestinians with Jim Crow in America. Per Mediaite:

Contrary to western mythology, black resistance to American apartheid did not come purely through Gandhi and nonviolence, Hill said. Rather, slave revolts and self-defense and tactics otherwise divergent from Dr. King or Mahatma Gandhi were equally important to preserving safety and attaining freedom. If we are to operate in true solidarity with the Palestinian people, we must allow the Palestinian people the same range of opportunity and political possibility. If we are standing in solidarity with the Palestinian people, we must recognize the right of an occupied people to defend itself. We must prioritize peace, but we must not romanticize or fetishize it. We must advocate and promote nonviolence at every opportunity, but we cannot endorse a narrow politics of respectability that shames Palestinians for resisting, for refusing to do nothing in the face of state violence and ethnic cleansing.


Also, as many observers noted, CNN continues to employ hardline anti-Palestinians like Rick Santorum, who once said, All the people that live in the West Bank are Israelis. They are not Palestinians. There is no Palestinian. This is Israeli land.

I have reached out to CNN for comment about why one of these viewpoints is allowed on their network and one isnt and will update if I hear back.

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FLUFFYGERM
11/29/18 10:46:09 PM
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Good to see CNN still has some standards left. Fuck antisemitism.
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darkjedilink
11/29/18 10:54:48 PM
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"Hill responded on Thursday and stressed that he said nothing even remotely calling for violence against Jewish peoplebecause he, uh, didnt."

Except he actually did. That's what free Palestine from the river to the sea is - a call for the eradication of Israel and the Jewish people.
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Antifar
11/29/18 11:24:55 PM
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Israel is not the Jewish people, and freedom for Palestineans is hardly the eradication of it.
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Blue_Inigo
11/29/18 11:26:57 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Good to see CNN still has some standards left. Fuck antisemitism.

Why cant you feel this way about white supremacy too
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Anteaterking
11/29/18 11:29:10 PM
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When I used to listen to CNN on my commute home, I remember hearing him a few times. I liked him. It's a shame they fired him.

Especially considering the right wing pundits they keep on the show who are blatantly advocating for worse things. But I guess that's what happens in a society that completely conflates Jewish people with Israel.
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darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:33:58 PM
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Antifar posted...
Israel is not the Jewish people, and freedom for Palestineans is hardly the eradication of it.

FROM RIVER TO SEA.

Look at a fucking map, yo. "From river to sea" calls for the eradication of Israel and the Jews that rightfully live there.
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ScazarMeltex
11/29/18 11:34:42 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Good to see CNN still has some standards left. Fuck antisemitism.

Fuck Israel and it's oppression of the Palestinian people.
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darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:35:23 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
When I used to listen to CNN on my commute home, I remember hearing him a few times. I liked him. It's a shame they fired him.

Especially considering the right wing pundits they keep on the show who are blatantly advocating for worse things. But I guess that's what happens in a society that completely conflates Jewish people with Israel.

The people he quoted "from river to sea" actively call for the annihilation of all Jews across the globe. You do know that the Palestinians elected a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government decades ago, right? And that they did so with the hope that all Jews would be murdered?
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ScazarMeltex
11/29/18 11:36:49 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Anteaterking posted...
When I used to listen to CNN on my commute home, I remember hearing him a few times. I liked him. It's a shame they fired him.

Especially considering the right wing pundits they keep on the show who are blatantly advocating for worse things. But I guess that's what happens in a society that completely conflates Jewish people with Israel.

The people he quoted "from river to sea" actively call for the annihilation of all Jews across the globe. You do know that the Palestinians elected a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government decades ago, right? And that they did so with the hope that all Jews would be murdered?

Yeah how dare they want to murder the people occupying their land oppressing their people.
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thronedfire2
11/29/18 11:38:13 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Anteaterking posted...
When I used to listen to CNN on my commute home, I remember hearing him a few times. I liked him. It's a shame they fired him.

Especially considering the right wing pundits they keep on the show who are blatantly advocating for worse things. But I guess that's what happens in a society that completely conflates Jewish people with Israel.

The people he quoted "from river to sea" actively call for the annihilation of all Jews across the globe. You do know that the Palestinians elected a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government decades ago, right? And that they did so with the hope that all Jews would be murdered?

Yeah how dare they want to murder the people occupying their land oppressing their people.


palestine lost the war, they all should have gtfo'd
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s0nicfan
11/29/18 11:38:27 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Anteaterking posted...
When I used to listen to CNN on my commute home, I remember hearing him a few times. I liked him. It's a shame they fired him.

Especially considering the right wing pundits they keep on the show who are blatantly advocating for worse things. But I guess that's what happens in a society that completely conflates Jewish people with Israel.

The people he quoted "from river to sea" actively call for the annihilation of all Jews across the globe. You do know that the Palestinians elected a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government decades ago, right? And that they did so with the hope that all Jews would be murdered?

Yeah how dare they want to murder the people occupying their land oppressing their people.


You're trying way too hard, kid.
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Alphamon
11/29/18 11:38:50 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
that "from the river to the sea" comment was, um, not good

yeah. guys. this was a fair firing.
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darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:40:36 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Anteaterking posted...
When I used to listen to CNN on my commute home, I remember hearing him a few times. I liked him. It's a shame they fired him.

Especially considering the right wing pundits they keep on the show who are blatantly advocating for worse things. But I guess that's what happens in a society that completely conflates Jewish people with Israel.

The people he quoted "from river to sea" actively call for the annihilation of all Jews across the globe. You do know that the Palestinians elected a de-facto terrorist organization to run their government decades ago, right? And that they did so with the hope that all Jews would be murdered?

Yeah how dare they want to murder the people occupying their land oppressing their people.

First, the Jews owned the land before the Palestinians stole it, so if you want to go there, you already lost.

Second, modern Israel was owned by the British, not the Palestinians, who freely gave it to the Jews after World War 2. Again, not their land.

And yes, how dare the Palestinian people want to murder children with other child soldiers because people who worship a different God than them currently possess land that was historically theirs to begin with.
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Zikten
11/29/18 11:40:53 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Good to see CNN still has some standards left. Fuck antisemitism.

uh you know that the palistinians are semitic too right?
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ThyCorndog
11/29/18 11:40:58 PM
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it's not surprising no matter what you think about the situation with israel and palestine. a stance that hot and controversial isn't really allowed on CNN
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Crazyman93
11/29/18 11:41:21 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Yeah how dare they want to murder the people occupying their land oppressing their people.

Yeah, you know who else wanted to murder all the jews?
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ThyCorndog
11/29/18 11:42:05 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
First, the Jews owned the land before the Palestinians stole it, so if you want to go there, you already lost.

the palestinians are mostly former jews that were assimilated into islam and the arabic language
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s0nicfan
11/29/18 11:42:33 PM
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Zikten posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Good to see CNN still has some standards left. Fuck antisemitism.

uh you know that the palistinians are semitic too right?


The literal textbook definition of antisemitism is "prejudice against and hatred for Jewish people", so even if you wanted to play the "uhh guys they're totally the same thing" card with regard to who owns the land, you'd still be objectively wrong in trying to "correct" someone in their use of the word.
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Antifar
11/29/18 11:42:59 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
it's not surprising no matter what you think about the situation with israel and palestine. a stance that hot and controversial isn't really allowed on CNN

They pay Rick Santorum to deny climate change on their air.
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darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:43:00 PM
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Zikten posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Good to see CNN still has some standards left. Fuck antisemitism.

uh you know that the palistinians are semitic too right?

I doubt the ones who want to nuke Israel, and hope to round up all the world's Jews in Israel so they only need one nuke to do the job right, can truly be considered semitic.
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Zikten
11/29/18 11:43:09 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
First, the Jews owned the land before the Palestinians stole it

the palestinians ARE the jews. they are the ones who never left the land and lived there since ancient history. over the past 2 thousand years, they got converted to Islam is all. they literally are the hebrew people. the modern Jews that live in Israel are actually less connected to the land than the Palestinians. they are mostly white descended from 2 thousand years of mixing with Europeans
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Zikten
11/29/18 11:43:48 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
The literal textbook definition of antisemitism is "prejudice against and hatred for Jewish people",

and the Palestinian people are literally the modern day Hebrew people
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s0nicfan
11/29/18 11:43:55 PM
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"converted"

Oh you poor sweet summer child.
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ThyCorndog
11/29/18 11:43:57 PM
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Antifar posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
it's not surprising no matter what you think about the situation with israel and palestine. a stance that hot and controversial isn't really allowed on CNN

They pay Rick Santorum to deny climate change on their air.

I wish I could pay someone to deny rick santorum exists
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darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:43:58 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
darkjedilink posted...
First, the Jews owned the land before the Palestinians stole it, so if you want to go there, you already lost.

the palestinians are mostly former jews that were assimilated into islam and the arabic language

And the modern Jews are the ones the Arabs pushed out of their historic homeland - namely, Israel.
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s0nicfan
11/29/18 11:44:15 PM
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Zikten posted...
s0nicfan posted...
The literal textbook definition of antisemitism is "prejudice against and hatred for Jewish people",

and the Palestinian people are literally the modern day Hebrew people


s0nicfan posted...
so even if you wanted to play the "uhh guys they're totally the same thing" card with regard to who owns the land, you'd still be objectively wrong in trying to "correct" someone in their use of the word.

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Zikten
11/29/18 11:45:06 PM
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semetic is a racial thing not a religious thing. they didn't stop being semitic cause they changed religion
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Zikten
11/29/18 11:46:03 PM
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fact is, the Palestinians have more of a right to that land than the Israelis. They literally have been living there for like at least 5 thousand years or more and never left. they are the people of that land. the israelis are the invaders and the outsiders.
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ThyCorndog
11/29/18 11:46:09 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
darkjedilink posted...
First, the Jews owned the land before the Palestinians stole it, so if you want to go there, you already lost.

the palestinians are mostly former jews that were assimilated into islam and the arabic language

And the modern Jews are the ones the Arabs pushed out of their historic homeland - namely, Israel.

no, the jews that all moved to israel in the last century left way before arabization of the region began. they mostly left during the roman occupation and mixed in with european populations
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Broken_Zeus
11/29/18 11:46:24 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Except he actually did. That's what free Palestine from the river to the sea is - a call for the eradication of Israel and the Jewish people.


Pretty much. And that level of antisemitism is pretty frightening. I'm just happy to see CNN take a stand against the guy.
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Tedtalker
11/29/18 11:47:08 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
darkjedilink posted...
First, the Jews owned the land before the Palestinians stole it, so if you want to go there, you already lost.

the palestinians are mostly former jews that were assimilated into islam and the arabic language


Owning land in this case is because of a story in a holy book. Anyway, the atrocities of israel are well documented, so if the Palestinian people want to wage war against these assholes, go for it. I favor any and all aggression against foreign Invaders.
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s0nicfan
11/29/18 11:47:28 PM
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I don't know what would actually be sadder, if Zitken actually believed what he was saying, or if he thought he was being clever in his trolling.
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Tedtalker
11/29/18 11:48:08 PM
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Broken_Zeus posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Except he actually did. That's what free Palestine from the river to the sea is - a call for the eradication of Israel and the Jewish people.


Pretty much. And that level of antisemitism is pretty frightening. I'm just happy to see CNN take a stand against the guy.


Jewish=/= Israel.

The response would not change if they was all African. Remove foreign Invaders.
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hockeybub89
11/29/18 11:48:15 PM
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"But the liberal media hates Jews!"

Fuck Israel and our government interests in picking sides in a dumb fuck holy war
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Zikten
11/29/18 11:49:13 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
it was the romans that pushed the jews out of israel, arabs occupied that land later

not all the jews left though. it's a common misunderstanding of history that people think they all left. they didn't. and those that stayed are now the Palestintians
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Cheater87
11/29/18 11:49:39 PM
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Anti Semitic? No, showing resistance to an apartheid state is NOT anti-Semitic. -_- I'm Jewish and I don't support Israel, of course to my family that makes me a self hating Jew. -_-
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CruelBuffalo
11/29/18 11:50:12 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
that "from the river to the sea" comment was, um, not good


I mean I am for a secular Israel government as he also stated in his tweets trying to clarify himself....but why would he use a phrase that is extremely common with people who violently threaten Israel.

I mean you can't attack alt-right people for using Nazi slogans then excuse this just because you side more with Palestine than Israel
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ThyCorndog
11/29/18 11:50:40 PM
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I mean israeli geneticists already tested palestinians and jews and found a relationship. it just doesn't matter because culture and politics are more important to people at the end of the day
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Antifar
11/29/18 11:50:49 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"But the liberal media hates Jews!"

To be fair, I don't believe anybody has ever said this about the media, liberal or otherwise
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BeantownHero
11/29/18 11:51:05 PM
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This...doesn't do much to dispel the myth of overwhelming Jewish influence in the Media, especially when they continue to pay Santorum
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hockeybub89
11/29/18 11:51:10 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Anti Semitic? No, showing resistance to an apartheid state is NOT anti-Semitic. -_- I'm Jewish and I don't support Israel, of course to my family that makes me a self hating Jew. -_-

It's like saying hating Russia means you hate white people. I don't know why people think some silly reach of an emotional ploy constitutes an argument.
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s0nicfan
11/29/18 11:51:45 PM
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If only people criticizing Israel so hard would put even 1% of that same level of scrutiny towards every single country surrounding them. Maybe then they could explain why of all the countries in the region, it's the one Jewish one that needs to be "dealt with". You know, the one with a democracy and Muslim citizens that make up roughly 20% of their government, with a single set of laws equally applied to all citizens regardless of religious affiliation. That one.
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Antifar
11/29/18 11:52:02 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
I mean you can't attack alt-right people for using Nazi slogans then excuse this just because you side more with Palestine than Israel

Threatening Israel is not the same as being a Nazi.
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hockeybub89
11/29/18 11:52:20 PM
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Antifar posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
"But the liberal media hates Jews!"

To be fair, I don't believe anybody has ever said this about the media, liberal or otherwise

Fair enough. Though it has been said about liberals and not liking Israel.
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darkjedilink
11/29/18 11:52:42 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Cheater87 posted...
Anti Semitic? No, showing resistance to an apartheid state is NOT anti-Semitic. -_- I'm Jewish and I don't support Israel, of course to my family that makes me a self hating Jew. -_-

It's like saying hating Russia means you hate white people. I don't know why people think some silly reach of an emotional ploy constitutes an argument.

Advocating for "river to the sea" is more along the lines of thinking "white genocide" is a thing.
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CruelBuffalo
11/29/18 11:52:56 PM
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Rick Santorum's bitch ass shouldn't be on CNN either though
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