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V-E-G-Y-
11/29/18 11:58:32 AM
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Hairy-man
11/29/18 12:00:01 PM
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I dont like them.
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Twin3Turbo
11/29/18 12:08:02 PM
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As much as people say that lots of men think they "deserve sex" for being nice, I don't typically find that to be the case.

What I see is guys who have been told all their life that being nice will help them get a girl. They see this message in practically all forms of media as well as being told by their friends and families as advice. Then when they do what most people would consider being nice (doing nice things for a girl, gifts, being there for them emotionally or physically, etc) and then it doesn't work, they can't seem to understand why this doesn't translate into being able to be romantic with said girl like they've been told all their lives. That's generally where the frustration seems to come.

Then they look over at a dude that they perceive as not being nice but seems to have no trouble getting the romantic attention of women, which further drives their frustration.
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SSJCAT
11/29/18 12:09:24 PM
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dey deserve to be pooped on
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Genocet_10-325
11/29/18 12:11:26 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
As much as people say that lots of men think they "deserve sex" for being nice, I don't typically find that to be the case.

What I see is guys who have been told all their life that being nice will help them get a girl. They see this message in practically all forms of media as well as being told by their friends and families as advice. Then when they do what most people would consider being nice (doing nice things for a girl, gifts, being there for them emotionally or physically, etc) and then it doesn't work, they can't seem to understand why this doesn't translate into being able to be romantic with said girl like they've been told all their lives. That's generally where the frustration seems to come.

Then they look over at a dude that they perceive as not being nice but seems to have no trouble getting the romantic attention of women, which further drives their frustration.

The problem is, they're not nice. They act superficially nice and girls see right through their bullshit, and its proven because when called out on it, their usually response is "I DIDN'T WANT YOU ANYWAY YOU UGLY FUCKING WHORE"
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Twin3Turbo
11/29/18 12:14:39 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
As much as people say that lots of men think they "deserve sex" for being nice, I don't typically find that to be the case.

What I see is guys who have been told all their life that being nice will help them get a girl. They see this message in practically all forms of media as well as being told by their friends and families as advice. Then when they do what most people would consider being nice (doing nice things for a girl, gifts, being there for them emotionally or physically, etc) and then it doesn't work, they can't seem to understand why this doesn't translate into being able to be romantic with said girl like they've been told all their lives. That's generally where the frustration seems to come.

Then they look over at a dude that they perceive as not being nice but seems to have no trouble getting the romantic attention of women, which further drives their frustration.

The problem is, they're not nice. They act superficially nice and girls see right through their bullshit, and its proven because when called out on it, their usually response is "I DIDN'T WANT YOU ANYWAY YOU UGLY FUCKING WHORE"

True obviously that happens and those definitely aren't nice guys. I've seen that happen personally. But just in my experience I've seen far more of just the guy getting hurt feelings because his genuine attempts to woo a girl didn't work and he can't figure out for the life of him why not. I see that happen far more often than the retaliatory reaction.
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LordMarshal
11/29/18 12:16:14 PM
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You can tell after bei g nice once if a girl wants to fuck you over it. Some are just saying thanks for being nice. Dont push those.
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Genocet_10-325
11/29/18 12:17:51 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
You can tell after bei g nice once if a girl wants to fuck you over it. Some are just saying thanks for being nice. Dont push those.

When guys get desperate enough they lose the ability to discern politeness from flirting. I was like that at ages 14-15, once I finally got laid I grew out of it.
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Lordgold666
11/29/18 12:18:13 PM
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Joke ppl

Nice guys finish last
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Cobra1010
11/29/18 12:20:50 PM
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Yeah but I also see a ton of assholes with drug addict filthy women.

The women who stick with their asshole boyfriend/husband, you dont want to touch those women with a 10 foot pole.
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 12:22:18 PM
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This thread could somehow get really toxic, Vegy.
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 12:30:53 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
As much as people say that lots of men think they "deserve sex" for being nice, I don't typically find that to be the case.

What I see is guys who have been told all their life that being nice will help them get a girl. They see this message in practically all forms of media as well as being told by their friends and families as advice. Then when they do what most people would consider being nice (doing nice things for a girl, gifts, being there for them emotionally or physically, etc) and then it doesn't work, they can't seem to understand why this doesn't translate into being able to be romantic with said girl like they've been told all their lives. That's generally where the frustration seems to come.

Then they look over at a dude that they perceive as not being nice but seems to have no trouble getting the romantic attention of women, which further drives their frustration.

This is pretty frustrating.
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Twin3Turbo
11/29/18 12:34:17 PM
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GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
As much as people say that lots of men think they "deserve sex" for being nice, I don't typically find that to be the case.

What I see is guys who have been told all their life that being nice will help them get a girl. They see this message in practically all forms of media as well as being told by their friends and families as advice. Then when they do what most people would consider being nice (doing nice things for a girl, gifts, being there for them emotionally or physically, etc) and then it doesn't work, they can't seem to understand why this doesn't translate into being able to be romantic with said girl like they've been told all their lives. That's generally where the frustration seems to come.

Then they look over at a dude that they perceive as not being nice but seems to have no trouble getting the romantic attention of women, which further drives their frustration.

This is pretty frustrating.

Uh, what specifically?
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 12:36:31 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
As much as people say that lots of men think they "deserve sex" for being nice, I don't typically find that to be the case.

What I see is guys who have been told all their life that being nice will help them get a girl. They see this message in practically all forms of media as well as being told by their friends and families as advice. Then when they do what most people would consider being nice (doing nice things for a girl, gifts, being there for them emotionally or physically, etc) and then it doesn't work, they can't seem to understand why this doesn't translate into being able to be romantic with said girl like they've been told all their lives. That's generally where the frustration seems to come.

Then they look over at a dude that they perceive as not being nice but seems to have no trouble getting the romantic attention of women, which further drives their frustration.

This is pretty frustrating.

Uh, what specifically?

Most of your post.
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Twin3Turbo
11/29/18 12:38:51 PM
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GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
As much as people say that lots of men think they "deserve sex" for being nice, I don't typically find that to be the case.

What I see is guys who have been told all their life that being nice will help them get a girl. They see this message in practically all forms of media as well as being told by their friends and families as advice. Then when they do what most people would consider being nice (doing nice things for a girl, gifts, being there for them emotionally or physically, etc) and then it doesn't work, they can't seem to understand why this doesn't translate into being able to be romantic with said girl like they've been told all their lives. That's generally where the frustration seems to come.

Then they look over at a dude that they perceive as not being nice but seems to have no trouble getting the romantic attention of women, which further drives their frustration.

This is pretty frustrating.

Uh, what specifically?

Most of your post.

Reason I was asking was because I wasnt quite sure if you were agreeing with me or if you were trying to say my analysis of the situation was inaccurate.
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 12:52:14 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
As much as people say that lots of men think they "deserve sex" for being nice, I don't typically find that to be the case.

What I see is guys who have been told all their life that being nice will help them get a girl. They see this message in practically all forms of media as well as being told by their friends and families as advice. Then when they do what most people would consider being nice (doing nice things for a girl, gifts, being there for them emotionally or physically, etc) and then it doesn't work, they can't seem to understand why this doesn't translate into being able to be romantic with said girl like they've been told all their lives. That's generally where the frustration seems to come.

Then they look over at a dude that they perceive as not being nice but seems to have no trouble getting the romantic attention of women, which further drives their frustration.

This is pretty frustrating.

Uh, what specifically?

Most of your post.

Reason I was asking was because I wasnt quite sure if you were agreeing with me or if you were trying to say my analysis of the situation was inaccurate.

I don't know what to say about this post.
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Noirespanties
11/29/18 12:52:38 PM
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I don't think about them
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V-E-G-Y-
11/29/18 1:05:54 PM
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GameboyTroy posted...
This thread could somehow get really toxic, Vegy.

How so
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 1:41:09 PM
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V-E-G-Y- posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
This thread could somehow get really toxic, Vegy.

How so

You're going to find out if this thread keeps going.
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Twin3Turbo
11/29/18 1:42:09 PM
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GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
As much as people say that lots of men think they "deserve sex" for being nice, I don't typically find that to be the case.

What I see is guys who have been told all their life that being nice will help them get a girl. They see this message in practically all forms of media as well as being told by their friends and families as advice. Then when they do what most people would consider being nice (doing nice things for a girl, gifts, being there for them emotionally or physically, etc) and then it doesn't work, they can't seem to understand why this doesn't translate into being able to be romantic with said girl like they've been told all their lives. That's generally where the frustration seems to come.

Then they look over at a dude that they perceive as not being nice but seems to have no trouble getting the romantic attention of women, which further drives their frustration.

This is pretty frustrating.

Uh, what specifically?

Most of your post.

Reason I was asking was because I wasnt quite sure if you were agreeing with me or if you were trying to say my analysis of the situation was inaccurate.

I don't know what to say about this post.

Well you could confirm or deny :/
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DragonGirlYuki
11/29/18 1:42:20 PM
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Nice
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 1:45:53 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
As much as people say that lots of men think they "deserve sex" for being nice, I don't typically find that to be the case.

What I see is guys who have been told all their life that being nice will help them get a girl. They see this message in practically all forms of media as well as being told by their friends and families as advice. Then when they do what most people would consider being nice (doing nice things for a girl, gifts, being there for them emotionally or physically, etc) and then it doesn't work, they can't seem to understand why this doesn't translate into being able to be romantic with said girl like they've been told all their lives. That's generally where the frustration seems to come.

Then they look over at a dude that they perceive as not being nice but seems to have no trouble getting the romantic attention of women, which further drives their frustration.

This is pretty frustrating.

Uh, what specifically?

Most of your post.

Reason I was asking was because I wasnt quite sure if you were agreeing with me or if you were trying to say my analysis of the situation was inaccurate.

I don't know what to say about this post.

Well you could confirm or deny :/

You're accurate.
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Kickflip
11/29/18 1:45:59 PM
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Do any men outright say this?

Anyway, there was a pretty hilarious topic on one of the console boards recently where a bunch of men were adamant that men and women couldn't just be friends. That listening to them was too much work for no "benefit"

The amount of men that think they're owed sex is scary.
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Quicksilver
11/29/18 1:47:40 PM
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The one basic rule of dating is do not be nice. Women will be more attracted to a jerk who doesn't give them the time of day than a nice guy who buys them flowers or whatever else. Nice guys finish last is a saying for a reason be a jerk and women will love you.
Women view men who are nice as weak and do not find them attractive. While jerks are strong sexy and masculine.
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Were_Wyrm
11/29/18 1:48:13 PM
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We should put them all in a room together and they can have as much sex as they want.
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Twin3Turbo
11/29/18 1:51:48 PM
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GameboyTroy posted...
You're accurate.

Oh ok cool. Yeah I agree it's frustrating but you just have to accept that

A. Being nice alone doesn't work
B. You're going to have to figure out what DOES work and why
C. Do your best to mold yourself into that (the vast majority of it involves self improvement personally, professionally, and financially so every guy should be doing it anyway.)
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 1:52:01 PM
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Kickflip posted...
Do any men outright say this?

Anyway, there was a pretty hilarious topic on one of the console boards recently where a bunch of men were adamant that men and women couldn't just be friends. That listening to them was too much work for no "benefit"

The amount of men that think they're owed sex is scary.

Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned. Imagine hard work not paying off.
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 2:01:30 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
You're accurate.

Oh ok cool. Yeah I agree it's frustrating but you just have to accept that

A. Being nice alone doesn't work
B. You're going to have to figure out what DOES work and why
C. Do your best to mold yourself into that (the vast majority of it involves self improvement personally, professionally, and financially so every guy should be doing it anyway.)

I'm not always a nice guy. Sometimes I just feel like teasing women for fun. I really feel bad for nice guys.
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eggcorn
11/29/18 2:04:31 PM
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They deserve jail time for being creepy.
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NeoShadowhen
11/29/18 2:06:10 PM
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Your thoughts on men who say dey


I see them as clowns.
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bobtuse
11/29/18 2:13:30 PM
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They're misguided.
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andel
11/29/18 2:13:40 PM
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GameboyTroy posted...
Kickflip posted...
Do any men outright say this?

Anyway, there was a pretty hilarious topic on one of the console boards recently where a bunch of men were adamant that men and women couldn't just be friends. That listening to them was too much work for no "benefit"

The amount of men that think they're owed sex is scary.

Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned. Imagine hard work not paying off. If another attractive girl comes along, the girl that friendzoned you might get ignored or you'll spend less time with that girl.


lmao wut. sex doesnt have to be 'earned', it isnt a fucking xbox achievement or a job.

it's really not complicated at all, you just have to find someone you get along with and it will happen if there is a mutual attraction. people that put sex on a pedestal really have no one but themselves to blame tbh
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BigSLM1993
11/29/18 2:31:22 PM
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I think the issue is that they're not transparent about their intentions.

Like they buy gifts and do nice things & "hang out" but don't confess or ask them out on dates, hoping the girl grows romantic interest.

They're better off establishing interest and asking for a date, and if they're shot down, then move on. If you're interested in a platonic friendship, then don't settle for one. Otherwise, you're wasting both your time and the girl's time in a sham of a friendship.
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DarkTransient
11/29/18 2:37:43 PM
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The ONLY situation in which someone outright "deserves sex" is when they've just handed money over to a prostitute.
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 2:57:12 PM
#38:


andel posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Kickflip posted...
Do any men outright say this?

Anyway, there was a pretty hilarious topic on one of the console boards recently where a bunch of men were adamant that men and women couldn't just be friends. That listening to them was too much work for no "benefit"

The amount of men that think they're owed sex is scary.

Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned. Imagine hard work not paying off. If another attractive girl comes along, the girl that friendzoned you might get ignored or you'll spend less time with that girl.


lmao wut. sex doesnt have to be 'earned', it isnt a fucking xbox achievement or a job.

it's really not complicated at all, you just have to find someone you get along with and it will happen if there is a mutual attraction. people that put sex on a pedestal really have no one but themselves to blame tbh

It hasn't happened to me when I get along with girls.
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andel
11/29/18 2:58:57 PM
#39:


GameboyTroy posted...
andel posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Kickflip posted...
Do any men outright say this?

Anyway, there was a pretty hilarious topic on one of the console boards recently where a bunch of men were adamant that men and women couldn't just be friends. That listening to them was too much work for no "benefit"

The amount of men that think they're owed sex is scary.

Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned. Imagine hard work not paying off. If another attractive girl comes along, the girl that friendzoned you might get ignored or you'll spend less time with that girl.


lmao wut. sex doesnt have to be 'earned', it isnt a fucking xbox achievement or a job.

it's really not complicated at all, you just have to find someone you get along with and it will happen if there is a mutual attraction. people that put sex on a pedestal really have no one but themselves to blame tbh

It hasn't happened to me when I get along with girls.


that is where the mutual attraction part comes in
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 3:02:26 PM
#40:


andel posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
andel posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Kickflip posted...
Do any men outright say this?

Anyway, there was a pretty hilarious topic on one of the console boards recently where a bunch of men were adamant that men and women couldn't just be friends. That listening to them was too much work for no "benefit"

The amount of men that think they're owed sex is scary.

Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned. Imagine hard work not paying off. If another attractive girl comes along, the girl that friendzoned you might get ignored or you'll spend less time with that girl.


lmao wut. sex doesnt have to be 'earned', it isnt a fucking xbox achievement or a job.

it's really not complicated at all, you just have to find someone you get along with and it will happen if there is a mutual attraction. people that put sex on a pedestal really have no one but themselves to blame tbh

It hasn't happened to me when I get along with girls.


that is where the mutual attraction part comes in

Okay.
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 4:26:38 PM
#41:


GameboyTroy posted...
andel posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
andel posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Kickflip posted...
Do any men outright say this?

Anyway, there was a pretty hilarious topic on one of the console boards recently where a bunch of men were adamant that men and women couldn't just be friends. That listening to them was too much work for no "benefit"

The amount of men that think they're owed sex is scary.

Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned. Imagine hard work not paying off. If another attractive girl comes along, the girl that friendzoned you might get ignored or you'll spend less time with that girl.


lmao wut. sex doesnt have to be 'earned', it isnt a fucking xbox achievement or a job.

it's really not complicated at all, you just have to find someone you get along with and it will happen if there is a mutual attraction. people that put sex on a pedestal really have no one but themselves to blame tbh

It hasn't happened to me when I get along with girls.


that is where the mutual attraction part comes in

Okay? Where is this going?

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andel
11/29/18 4:28:28 PM
#42:


GameboyTroy posted...
andel posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
andel posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Kickflip posted...
Do any men outright say this?

Anyway, there was a pretty hilarious topic on one of the console boards recently where a bunch of men were adamant that men and women couldn't just be friends. That listening to them was too much work for no "benefit"

The amount of men that think they're owed sex is scary.

Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned. Imagine hard work not paying off. If another attractive girl comes along, the girl that friendzoned you might get ignored or you'll spend less time with that girl.


lmao wut. sex doesnt have to be 'earned', it isnt a fucking xbox achievement or a job.

it's really not complicated at all, you just have to find someone you get along with and it will happen if there is a mutual attraction. people that put sex on a pedestal really have no one but themselves to blame tbh

It hasn't happened to me when I get along with girls.


that is where the mutual attraction part comes in

Okay? Where is this going?


you responded to my post? seems p simple
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 7:35:21 PM
#43:


Kickflip posted...
Do any men outright say this?

Anyway, there was a pretty hilarious topic on one of the console boards recently where a bunch of men were adamant that men and women couldn't just be friends. That listening to them was too much work for no "benefit"

The amount of men that think they're owed sex is scary.

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Vegy
11/29/18 9:16:24 PM
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Joelypoely
11/29/18 9:31:23 PM
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GameboyTroy posted...
Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned.


That is just as poor of an attitude and sadly all too prevalent these days.
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 9:32:46 PM
#46:


Joelypoely posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned.


That is just as poor of an attitude and sadly all too prevalent these days.

What do you want me to say? I will have my day someday.
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Joelypoely
11/29/18 9:46:12 PM
#47:


GameboyTroy posted...
Joelypoely posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned.


That is just as poor of an attitude and sadly all too prevalent these days.

What do you want me to say? I will have my day someday.


I didn't mean it as a personal attack. In general I just reckon the commodification of sex is one of the leading problems in dating ATM. Perceiving sex as a 'reward' can cause quite a few problems.
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GameboyTroy
11/29/18 10:04:42 PM
#48:


Joelypoely posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Joelypoely posted...
GameboyTroy posted...
Nobody is owed sex. Sex has to be earned.


That is just as poor of an attitude and sadly all too prevalent these days.

What do you want me to say? I will have my day someday.


I didn't mean it as a personal attack. In general I just reckon the commodification of sex is one of the leading problems in dating ATM. Perceiving sex as a 'reward' can cause quite a few problems.

Should I take back that sex has to be earned? Maybe It'll happen after getting a girlfriend is what I'm hoping for. I can change my mind kind of fast.
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TboiGreezy
11/29/18 10:16:49 PM
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I say they deserve sex come on
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pkmnlord
11/30/18 12:53:06 AM
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My thoughts are that I'm tired of hearing it. I'm also tired of hearing the other side of it too tbh.
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