Current Events > Your honest thoughts on women who say ''Man up''?

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its classic sexism
it just happens to target men and boys
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I bend over.

Gogo said "woman up" in Big Hero 6.
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NonDairyMiltank posted...

its classic sexism

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If they mean it seriously? Fuck them.

You dont get to attack Victorias Secret because it forces women to be perfect, push for body positivity (fat acceptance), revel against women shaving their legs and armpits because of gender roles and then turn around and tell the guy who is rolling around in the floor because he got stung by a giant wasp or because he got kicked in the junk to man up, or the guy who is sad because his cat died.

From man up to toxic masculinity , damned if you do, damned if you dont

EliteC posted...

If they mean it seriously? Fuck them.

You dont get to attack Victorias Secret because it forces women to be perfect, push for body positivity (fat acceptance), revel against women shaving their legs and armpits because of gender roles and then turn around and tell the guy who is rolling around in the floor because he got stung by a giant wasp or because he got kicked in the junk to man up, or the guy who is sad because his cat died.

From man up to toxic masculinity , damned if you do, damned if you dont

People are inconsistent and hypocrites, myself included, get used to it.
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I prefer saying "You a man or a mouse, boy ?! Squeak up !" whenever a guy is acting manchildish, soyboyish, snowflakeish, leftyish or girlish.
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DarthWendy posted...

I prefer saying "You a man or a mouse, boy ?! Squeak up !" whenever a guy is acting manchildish, soyboyish, snowflakeish, leftyish or girlish.

Dont you pretend to be French?

Mais, monseiur pere! Jaime marine le pen! Squeak up dad!

Hahaha

Honestly, more people male and female, need to tell men to "Man up."

This current generation of men are generally weak cry babies. Complete victims to their own entitlement and modern comforts.

DarthWendy posted...

I prefer saying "You a man or a mouse, boy ?! Squeak up !" whenever a guy is acting manchildish, soyboyish, snowflakeish, leftyish or girlish.

What if I say 'I can do both!' As I pose and cutely play with the mouse tail of my mouse fur suit and wink at you.
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you can't fight biology. chicks are sexually attracted to men who "man up"
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t_paynes_ghost posted...

Honestly, more people male and female, need to tell men to "Man up."

This current generation of men are generally weak cry babies. Complete victims to their own entitlement and modern comforts.

I agree, like the soycel who just posted above you which I am not going to reply to in fear of being infected with his niceguyus incelitia if we find ourselves in the same message box.
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Megaman50100 posted...

DarthWendy posted...

I prefer saying "You a man or a mouse, boy ?! Squeak up !" whenever a guy is acting manchildish, soyboyish, snowflakeish, leftyish or girlish.

What if I say 'I can do both!' As I pose and cutely play with the mouse tail of my mouse fur suit and wink at you.

Wait, you actually own a mouse onesie ? hmmmm.
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wtf
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MakoReizei posted...

you can't fight biology. chicks are sexually attracted to men who "man up"

And I am fine with that. I am pretty manly myself.

But why is nobody telling women to woman up? Like, shave your armpits, stop harassing victorias Secret and lay down the brownie, etc. Us men like feminine women too

EliteC posted...

From man up to toxic masculinity , damned if you do, damned if you dont

You're confused. The phrase "man up", whether said by a man or a woman is an example of toxic masculinity.

Depends who says it. If it's a tough chick, it's fine. If it's one of those sissy ones, then screw them.
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ghostmess posted...

EliteC posted...

From man up to toxic masculinity , damned if you do, damned if you dont

You're confused. The phrase "man up", whether said by a man or a woman is an example of toxic masculinity.

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EliteC posted...

MakoReizei posted...

you can't fight biology. chicks are sexually attracted to men who "man up"

And I am fine with that. I am pretty manly myself.

But why is nobody telling women to woman up? Like, shave your armpits, stop harassing victorias Secret and lay down the brownie, etc. Us men like feminine women too

idk but it is hypocritical. guys have to be masculine but girls aren't expected to be feminine. it's bullshit
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It's notably condescending when a woman demands someone else "man up" when she has never once in her existence been put under the same standardized expectations that can be dropped upon a male person's shoulders.

She has never experienced what it's like to be male.
She has never experienced growing up as a boy, nor the biological issues of male anatomy.
She has never experienced what it's like to trying to live up to what society demands of a man.
Her interactions with male people in her life are not suitable substitutes for that lack of experience. It's never first person.

Women similarly have their own collection of gendered issues to deal with and the same argument can be applied for why it would be inappropriate for a man to seriously say "woman up" in response to a woman expressing discomfort over those issues. The thing is not many people have bothered to ever standardize that phrase as much as the male counterpart. Women are typically never held to the same standard for that (which ironically sexist when you think about it).

A legit feminist and human rights advocate would refrain from using such a discriminating phrase as "man up". Especially since some of those organizations are now trying to champion concerns over "toxic masculinity". Handwaving the use of "man up" would be blatant hypocrisy to their claims.
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I like it.

Pretty much validates that I shouldn't act like a little wimp and take control of the situation.
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ClockworkHare posted...

It's notably condescending when a woman demands someone else "man up" when she has never once in her existence been put under the same standardized expectations that can be dropped upon a male person's shoulders.

She has never experienced what it's like to be male.
She has never experienced growing up as a boy, nor the biological issues of male anatomy.
She has never experienced what it's like to trying to live up to what society demands of a man.
Her interactions with male people in her life are not suitable substitutes for that lack of experience. It's never first person.

Women similarly have their own collection of gendered issues to deal with and the same argument can be applied for why it would be inappropriate for a man to seriously say "woman up" in response to a woman expressing discomfort over those issues. The thing is not many people have bothered to ever standardize that phrase as much as the male counterpart. Women are typically never held to the same standard for that (which ironically sexist when you think about it).

A legit feminist and human rights advocate would refrain from using such a discriminating phrase as "man up". Especially since some of those organizations are now trying to champion concerns over "toxic masculinity". Handwaving the use of "man up" would be blatant hypocrisy to their claims.

Dude.... fucking man up. Jesus.

I think it can depend on context. I've heard girls telling each other to man up. Sometimes it's just another way of saying to be strong.

Most times, yeah, it's misguided and hurtful.
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ghostmess posted...

EliteC posted...

From man up to toxic masculinity , damned if you do, damned if you dont

You're confused. The phrase "man up", whether said by a man or a woman is an example of toxic masculinity.

I'm not sure there was any confusion there. It's literally the same women who are complaining about toxic masculinity that are telling guys to "man up."
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I prefer to loudly say man down instead.

It confuses the fuck outta people.
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Ultima Dragon posted...

I'm not sure there was any confusion there. It's literally the same women who are complaining about toxic masculinity that are telling guys to "man up."

I mean it's most likely not, but if you want to think that you can.

pikachupwnage posted...

I prefer to loudly say man down instead.

It confuses the fuck outta people.

That sounds like a great insult for girls to use on each other.
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t_paynes_ghost posted...

Dude.... fucking man up. Jesus.

I'm a gay male and experienced a lot of physical violence towards me growing up from people who carelessly preached that same rhetoric. Including my own bigoted family. I was the victim of physical abuse for many years of my childhood for the simple crime of not "manning up" to their expectations.

I didn't dress flamboyantly. I didn't have a lisp. I didn't act limp-wristed or effeminate. I did not have any embarrassingly stereotypical "girly" behaviors for my parents to be ashamed of. Most people assumed I was straight. My parents were fine and proud of me up until I finally came out as a teen homosexual.

That was it, that's all it took for my own family to deem me as not man enough, as a teenage boy no less. In their eyes I was automatically incapable of ever being a man because I was not sexually attracted to girls. After that I endured a daily routine of getting dumped on by my parents and siblings for my sexuality. Both my father and mother casually shamed and physically abused me for not falling in line with the household's heterosexual status quo.

My parents eventually took it upon themselves to condition "the gay" out of me by delivering tough love that often lead to physical abuse. They made it real clear that I was to be held to a different standard than my siblings just because I was gay, telling me to "man up" whenever I complained about pain, discomfort, and unfair treatment. The only one in our household that showed me any sympathy towards me was my little brother who I shared my bedroom with. He knew me a lot better than the rest of my family did.

The worst of the abuse came when my family became alarmed about my influence around my little brother. They seriously thought I was going to indoctrinate him into being gay too, as if that was how it worked (they were that socially stupid). I expected them to make a big deal out of it and move us to separate rooms (or shove me in the garage). Instead I woke up on a Saturday morning with my dad telling me to start packing up my room and that I was being sent to live with my more accepting aunt. We had a huge argument over how awful that was for me and his response was "well you should have manned up" and dated some girls. He stood there are told me in his own angry words that I was obligated to prove I could be a straight son. It triggered him so much that I was in a high school relationship with another boy that he could not live with me under his roof. My self-absorbed mother stood by nodding in agreement because my homosexuality meant she wasn't going to get grandchildren out of me and the neighbors were supposedly laughing about it. She seriously broke into tears telling me how selfish I was for not considering what people were saying about HER for raising a gay son.

I was physically and emotionally abused by my own family for years, forcibly uprooted away as a teen away from my little brother, and distanced from my high school friends all because of my bigoted parents who preached the phrase "man up".

The only real distinguishing trait I had from a typical straight teen boy was I was dating another teen boy. And if a boy like me could get trapped in such a hate-ridden household and endure bigoted abuse just because of who I dated, it horrified me to think of how much worse it could be for teens who had much more apparent queer traits. I wasn't flamboyant or in-your-face with my sexuality; I mostly kept it private because of my parents. And yet there were nights I still got beat the shit of for not being the ideal straight son.

Tell you what. Why don't you man up by acknowledging the double standard and damaging abuse associated with that phrase.
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My partner doesn't explicitly use the phrase "man up" but will only sometimes say similar when I'm not really getting over a troubling situation and although it is aggravating to hear, I do take that angry energy out on her with rough sex afterwards.

Kind of an weird dynamic honestly, or probably a ploy to get her kink on......now I feel objectified
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ClockworkHare posted...

t_paynes_ghost posted...

Dude.... fucking man up. Jesus.

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I'm sorry you had such a terrible childhood and this phrase specifically stands out as one that is a hurtful reminder of that period.

Please understand that the phrase holds a special, different meaning for you then when people usually say it. It rarely ever references sexuality. It has usually meant "Stop acting like a child, act like an adult." And I'm not saying this as a "come on man, lighten up!" But more as a "You're going to hear this phrase a lot, please consider its more generic meanings."

I hope you can read/hear this phrase in the future and consider the intent of the phrase, and not be hurt by the memory of it.

Sometimes adults, men and women, need a reminder to stop being so damned entitled. Man up, to me, is a quick way and blunt way to remind them they're being silly. I hope you are able to derive this meaning instead of the reminder of your awful child hood.

Again, I am sorry if I hurt you and I am sorry I had you bring up awful memories of a past life.

t_paynes_ghost posted...

Sometimes adults, men and women, need a reminder to stop being so damned entitled. Man up, to me, is a quick way and blunt way to remind them they're being silly.

lol wtf
youre so sheltered you don't even see the sexist bias in what you just said?

you say "men and women" need reminders to not act entitled and silly
but you completely overlook that the phrase is literally MAN up

what the fuck equivalent is there for tellin women to not act entitled and silly?
you goin around tellin women to man up too?

wow that wouldn't be considered sexist either.... /s
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People who say it usually don't even understand what it entails. Better off just ignoring them.
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NonDairyMiltank posted...

t_paynes_ghost posted...

Sometimes adults, men and women, need a reminder to stop being so damned entitled. Man up, to me, is a quick way and blunt way to remind them they're being silly.

lol wtf
youre so sheltered you don't even see the sexist bias in what you just said?

you say "men and women" need reminders to not act entitled and silly
but you completely overlook that the phrase is literally MAN up

what the fuck equivalent is there for tellin women to not act entitled and silly?
you goin around tellin women to man up too?

wow that wouldn't be considered sexist either.... /s

No you just say man up to everyone because it's just a phrase and the intense dissection of the phrase is alt-left nonsense.

I say "ok", I take a deep breath and I try to kill the spider. If it leaves my vision then we take a week off from using that room.
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t_paynes_ghost posted...

No you just say man up to everyone because it's just a phrase and the intense dissection of the phrase is alt-left nonsense.

/topic.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

I say "ok", I take a deep breath and I try to kill the spider. If it leaves my vision then we take a week off from using that room.

LMAO, sometimes the husband says "A spider ! Don't stand there, DO something", because he knows I'm mostly the one not grossed or scared of spiders or insects, so it's usually me moving in for the divine retribution magazine slam. Taking care not to leave a stain >_>
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CrimsonRage posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...

I say "ok", I take a deep breath and I try to kill the spider. If it leaves my vision then we take a week off from using that room.

don't you mean if it leaves your vision, you burn down the house

Use to be. Ive made progress and also realized homeless people have nothing to burn down when spiders cone into play.
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CrimsonRage posted...

MakoReizei posted...

EliteC posted...

MakoReizei posted...

you can't fight biology. chicks are sexually attracted to men who "man up"

And I am fine with that. I am pretty manly myself.

But why is nobody telling women to woman up? Like, shave your armpits, stop harassing victorias Secret and lay down the brownie, etc. Us men like feminine women too

idk but it is hypocritical. guys have to be masculine but girls aren't expected to be feminine. it's bullshit

you don't have to be masculine, mako.

hi crimson
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pikachupwnage posted...

I prefer to loudly say man down instead.

It confuses the fuck outta people.

*medic rushes onto scene*

Towards the OP question -- I hate that sexist c*** instantly.
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MakoReizei posted...

EliteC posted...

MakoReizei posted...

you can't fight biology. chicks are sexually attracted to men who "man up"

And I am fine with that. I am pretty manly myself.

But why is nobody telling women to woman up? Like, shave your armpits, stop harassing victorias Secret and lay down the brownie, etc. Us men like feminine women too

idk but it is hypocritical. guys have to be masculine but girls aren't expected to be feminine. it's bullshit

Yup

hmm
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Solid Sonic posted...

Gogo said "woman up" in Big Hero 6.

Those times she said it, it absorbed all the cringe I was saving up for the then forthcoming DC movies. Seriously, I watched the DC movies, and I couldn't... I couldn't cringe. I was frozen in a sort of apathy.
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