Current Events > Just cause there's no proof of an afterlife doesn't mean there isn't one

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If I went from being nothing before being born to conscious then there's nothing indicating it can't happen again when you return to being nothing. If it happened once and the universe is infinite then there's a 100% chance it's going to happen again and again.
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Well I used to be atheist and I'm now agonistic so I agree
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What about a beforelife?
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Uh its called the BIBLE
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Rummy said it better.
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Well it's just dumb to make a claim as a fact with no evidence.
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BeepBep posted...

What about a beforelife?

Maybe we had one but just don't have any recollection of it. We can't even remember being babies but that doesn't mean we were never babies.
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Prestoff posted...

Well it's just dumb to make a claim as a fact with no evidence.

No one actually knows for sure what happens after you die or even if God is real, that's why Faith exists.
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assassinCrash posted...

If I went from being nothing before being born to conscious then there's nothing indicating it can't happen again when you return to being nothing. If it happened once and the universe is infinite then there's a 100% chance it's going to happen again and again.

Do you think consciousness is something besides your brain, uh, working?
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Prestoff posted...

Well it's just dumb to make a claim as a fact with no evidence.

No one actually knows for sure what happens after you die or even if God is real, that's why Faith exists.

Hence why I say stating something as a fact with no evidence to back it up is stupid. You can make guesses for sure, but that's probably what the whole "afterlife" discussion boils down to.
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There is no afterlife, only New Game+
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MorbidFaithless posted...

assassinCrash posted...

If I went from being nothing before being born to conscious then there's nothing indicating it can't happen again when you return to being nothing. If it happened once and the universe is infinite then there's a 100% chance it's going to happen again and again.

Do you think consciousness is something besides your brain, uh, working?

Why am I this specific brain? If my brain got cloned I wouldn't be in 2 places at the same time, I would still be the original one. This suggests that there's more to it than just the brain. Then again I don't think we will ever find the answers.
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Prestoff posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

Prestoff posted...

Well it's just dumb to make a claim as a fact with no evidence.

No one actually knows for sure what happens after you die or even if God is real, that's why Faith exists.

Hence why I say stating something as a fact with no evidence to back it up is stupid. You can make guesses for sure, but that's probably what the whole "afterlife" discussion boils down to.

We have ideas on what the afterlife is based on what Jesus says, and I'm sure there are equivalents for other religions.

When people talk about Heaven, the idea of Heaven is not consistent. I mean, is it a bunch of clouds or a giant open landscape, are there "pearly gates" where you meet St. Peter, etc.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

We have ideas on what the afterlife is based on what Jesus says, and I'm sure there are equivalents for other religions.

Ideas aren't evidence.
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The actual evidence is Jesus saying there is an afterlife (whether it's Heaven or Hell). But no one knows what they look like. In popular culture Hell has become like Dante's Inferno, but again I don't think there's a consistent depiction of Heaven.
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assassinCrash posted...

If I went from being nothing before being born to conscious then there's nothing indicating it can't happen again when you return to being nothing. If it happened once and the universe is infinite then there's a 100% chance it's going to happen again and again.

That is not necessarily true. But yes, it might be possible.

Everything you ever think/do/feel/etc. is the result of your brain functioning. On top of that, changes to your brain, such as a traumatic injury, are enough to entirely change your personality.

Once the brain stops functioning, how could there be anything left to experience an afterlife with?

I dont care if you think there is a heaven. Just dont treat people who dont believe like shit
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Damn_Underscore posted...

The actual evidence is Jesus saying there is an afterlife (whether it's Heaven or Hell). But no one knows what they look like. In popular culture Hell has become like Dante's Inferno, but again I don't think there's a consistent depiction of Heaven.

Once again, saying something is true is not evidence either.
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Prestoff posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

The actual evidence is Jesus saying there is an afterlife (whether it's Heaven or Hell). But no one knows what they look like. In popular culture Hell has become like Dante's Inferno, but again I don't think there's a consistent depiction of Heaven.

Once again, saying something is true is not evidence either.

Literally billions of people believe Jesus is a very credible source, and that's an understatement.
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And that belief is based on nothing of quantifiable value.
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Ok? What argument are you trying to make, that all people who believe in a religion are stupid?
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I've long since been under the impression that the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people are stupid, myself included. So in effect, yes.
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His argument is that there arent any actual facts that prove that Jesus was gods Son so you cant use the Bible as proof if anything in this conversation. Believing in religion doesnt make you dumb but you cant act like the things presented in it are all facts just like atheists cant pretend that they know with 100% certainty thats theres no afterlife
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That's more critical thought than I was willing to muster, so I must disapprove by default.
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Lol
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What if you just have no memory of before you were born but you had consciousness?
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Most people don't even talk about their religions in everyday life. It's not like there's an epidemic of people annoying you (because that's all they'll do in 99.9% of cases) by telling you that their religion is fact.
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Even just one is unacceptable if I'm feeling moody. And I'm moody all the time.
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VectorChaos posted...

There is no afterlife, only New Game+

Imagine if this were true. Would it be cool? Or horrible?
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Prestoff posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

The actual evidence is Jesus saying there is an afterlife (whether it's Heaven or Hell). But no one knows what they look like. In popular culture Hell has become like Dante's Inferno, but again I don't think there's a consistent depiction of Heaven.

Once again, saying something is true is not evidence either.

Literally billions of people believe Jesus is a very credible source, and that's an understatement.

Literally billions of people used to think the world was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth. That's literally a logical fallacy, argumentum ad populum.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I dont care if you dont think there is a heaven. Just dont treat people who believe like shit

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