Current Events > About 3000 migrants have reached the US border. Caravan total estimates at 10000

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Build the wall and use force
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Balrog0 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.

imo they should all be given housing in trump's properties and should be allowed to live in them rent free for the rest of their lives at the personal expense of trump himself.

Funny how the open boarders people never want to have to bear any cost of allowing them in.

They don't actually care about the refugees or having open borders. They just know that the southern border is mostly conservative countryside and they want to force the cost burden onto those taxpayers by straining their local infrastructure and systems.

Lmao

You are right it is pretty funny to see people who demand they all be let in, no questions asked. Then turn around and demand the people that don't want them in to essentially adopt them by supporting them for life.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Remember when they weren't gonna reach the US until January?

Remember when they were all suppose to sneak in before the election?
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Things are gonna get bad around that region.

Hell even here in NC some of the long established Latinos are worried that they are coming here to take their dibs too.
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

Things are gonna get bad around that region.

Hell even here in NC some of the long established Latinos are worried that they are coming here to take their dibs too.

People who immigrated here legally don't like illegal immigration for the most part
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Get the arrows and spears ready, guys!

Damn caravan is trying to bring its colonialism over the border. Who knows what kind of dangerous diseases they could be bringing, too. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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I'll freely admit- whole group moved much more rapidly than I expected, though main group has still not arrived

and none of this seems likely to overwhelm our border security

they'll be processed by the best and most experienced immigration system in the world and i am doubtful that we'll see significant changes in crime rates, which have been trending down for decades

so i'm still not sure why this was ever a story
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Darkman124 posted...

so i'm still not sure why this was ever a story

A caravan 10,000 deep isn't a story?
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I feel like them entering through the most populated state in the US makes this rather large as well. The states already overpopulated as it is.
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Let Canada take em.

Bullet_Wing posted...

eggcorn posted...

Darkman124 posted...

so i'm still not sure why this was ever a story

A caravan 10,000 deep isn't a story?

Trump and his idiot lemmings make it sound like an army. If they wait and go through proper asylum procedures, it's not an issue. Currently, all signs point to that being the case.

They were offered asylum. They did not accept
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Bullet_Wing posted...

GFAQz posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

eggcorn posted...

Darkman124 posted...

so i'm still not sure why this was ever a story

A caravan 10,000 deep isn't a story?

Trump and his idiot lemmings make it sound like an army. If they wait and go through proper asylum procedures, it's not an issue. Currently, all signs point to that being the case.

They were offered asylum. They did not accept

Source? First I've heard of it

Not all did not accept
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/caraqvan-mexico-offer/
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/caravan-mexico-offer/
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GFAQz posted...

Bullet_Wing posted...

eggcorn posted...

Darkman124 posted...

so i'm still not sure why this was ever a story

A caravan 10,000 deep isn't a story?

Trump and his idiot lemmings make it sound like an army. If they wait and go through proper asylum procedures, it's not an issue. Currently, all signs point to that being the case.

They were offered asylum. They did not accept

They're talking about America.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

CEs leftists have always maintained that thousands would reach the border.

I mean, maybe one or two randomly claimed otherwise but thats it. You dont honestly think there was a sizable amount that were downplaying the whole thing do you?
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Darkman124 posted...

so i'm still not sure why this was ever a story

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P4wn4g3 posted...

Darkman124 posted...

so i'm still not sure why this was ever a story

Rile up racists to vote red/try to push the leftist Boogeyman narrative
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HiddenLurker posted...

Balrog0 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.

imo they should all be given housing in trump's properties and should be allowed to live in them rent free for the rest of their lives at the personal expense of trump himself.

Funny how the open boarders people never want to have to bear any cost of allowing them in.

They don't actually care about the refugees or having open borders. They just know that the southern border is mostly conservative countryside and they want to force the cost burden onto those taxpayers by straining their local infrastructure and systems.

Lmao

You are right it is pretty funny to see people who demand they all be let in, no questions asked. Then turn around and demand the people that don't want them in to essentially adopt them by supporting them for life.

That is pretty funny actually, but thats par for course for political tribalism
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To the point saying the 10,000 people will just get processed... even at 50 requests processed a day (which included background checks), that's still 200 days. Assuming the US govt employees aren't working weekends, that's 40 work weeks. So we're presuming that 10,000 people are going to just wait patiently for the better part of a year, through the winter, while their applications are processed? And they're going to do this in Mexico?

Even the ~3K or so there right now will take about 3 months at the rates above.

And that presumes some sort of rushed process. The actual asylum process takes between 6 months and several years per person and is horribly backed up:
https://immigrationforum.org/article/fact-sheet-u-s-asylum-process/

Under the defensive asylum process, applicants must go through the immigration court system, which faces significant backlogs. As of July 2018, there were over 733,000 pending immigration cases and the average wait time for an immigration hearing was 721 days. The backlog has been worsening over the past decade as the funding for immigration judges has failed to keep pace with an increasing case load.

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impressive lie to post ratio ITT

s0nicfan posted...

To the point saying the 10,000 people will just get processed... even at 50 requests processed a day (which included background checks), that's still 200 days. Assuming the US govt employees aren't working weekends, that's 40 work weeks. So we're presuming that 10,000 people are going to just wait patiently for the better part of a year, through the winter, while their applications are processed? And they're going to do this in Mexico?

Even the ~3K or so there right now will take about 3 months at the rates above.

And that presumes some sort of rushed process. The actual asylum process takes between 6 months and several years per person and is horribly backed up:
https://immigrationforum.org/article/fact-sheet-u-s-asylum-process/

Under the defensive asylum process, applicants must go through the immigration court system, which faces significant backlogs. As of July 2018, there were over 733,000 pending immigration cases and the average wait time for an immigration hearing was 721 days. The backlog has been worsening over the past decade as the funding for immigration judges has failed to keep pace with an increasing case load.

Sounds like the real problem is that we should be adding more funds to the immigration department so they can hire more people.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

Things are gonna get bad around that region.

Hell even here in NC some of the long established Latinos are worried that they are coming here to take their dibs too.

People who immigrated here legally don't like illegal immigration for the most part

Seeking asylum isnt illegal immigration, but not surprised you dont know that.
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ROBANN_88 posted...

we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.

Undergo a massive rise in hate crimes orchestrated by white nationalists, generally male?
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I sincerely hope all 3000 of them are applying for asylum, we have a pretty strict vetting process, only about 20% will get in if thats the case. But something tells me the thousands that wont get accepted for asylum may commit illegal actions to still enter the states, I dont think Im being completely unreasonable here.
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ROBANN_88 posted...

we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.

Lol you must not actually know how things work in America.

This migrant caravan is a drop in the bucket at best. Its only a big deal because of fearmongering.

3000 people? 10000? Motherfucker. The US has housed tens of millions of illegals for decades.

@ROBANN_88

Alphamon posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.

Lol you must not actually know how things work in America.

This migrant caravan is a drop in the bucket at best. Its only a big deal because of fearmongering.

3000 people? 10000? Motherfucker. The US has housed tens of millions of illegals for decades.

@ROBANN_88

The quality of life of all our citizens would be raised immensely if we also dropped doing medical care for profit, and we stripped the rich of the money they have stolen from us for decades.
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gunplagirl posted...

Alphamon posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.

Lol you must not actually know how things work in America.

This migrant caravan is a drop in the bucket at best. Its only a big deal because of fearmongering.

3000 people? 10000? Motherfucker. The US has housed tens of millions of illegals for decades.

@ROBANN_88

The quality of life of all our citizens would be raised immensely if we also dropped doing medical care for profit, and we stripped the rich of the money they have stolen from us for decades.

get help

Alphamon posted...

gunplagirl posted...

Alphamon posted...

ROBANN_88 posted...

we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.

Lol you must not actually know how things work in America.

This migrant caravan is a drop in the bucket at best. Its only a big deal because of fearmongering.

3000 people? 10000? Motherfucker. The US has housed tens of millions of illegals for decades.

@ROBANN_88

The quality of life of all our citizens would be raised immensely if we also dropped doing medical care for profit, and we stripped the rich of the money they have stolen from us for decades.

get help

You're the one who's been convinced capitalism is a good thing
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gunplagirl posted...

The quality of life of all our citizens would be raised immensely if we also dropped doing medical care for profit, and we stripped the rich of the money they have stolen from us for decades.

You're the one who's been convinced capitalism is a good thing

Lol, we are at a point where I honestly dont know if youre just playing a character for shits and giggles at our expense.

You demonize capitalism at every turn, yet conveniently forget that its responsible for raising the standard of living for millions of people all around the world, and its driven by capitalist innovations and efficiencies that create technologies and economic opportunities others dream about and are willing to risk their lives to be a part of. Its not just a Western thing either. Effing China and Russia are engaging in Capitalism all day, every day because they know how much stronger they are with it, even if they have to give it their own Communist spin. Its funny how the rest of the world realizes this, but its people within prosperous nations like the US, Germany and England that want to tear it all down and replace it with Fight the power! counter-productive nonsense.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Remember when they weren't gonna reach the US until January?

That one archiving site remember.

in a STUNNING development, people dont remember
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

gunplagirl posted...

The quality of life of all our citizens would be raised immensely if we also dropped doing medical care for profit, and we stripped the rich of the money they have stolen from us for decades.

You're the one who's been convinced capitalism is a good thing

Lol, we are at a point where I honestly dont know if youre just playing a character for shits and giggles at our expense.

You demonize capitalism at every turn, yet conveniently forget that its responsible for raising the standard of living for millions of people all around the world, and its driven by capitalist innovations and efficiencies that create technologies and economic opportunities others dream about and are willing to risk their lives to be a part of. Its not just a Western thing either. Effing China and Russia are engaging in Capitalism all day, every day because they know how much stronger they are with it, even if they have to give it their own Communist spin. Its funny how the rest of the world realizes this, but its people within prosperous nations like the US, Germany and England that want to tear it all down and replace it with Fight the power! counter-productive nonsense.

Ah yes, we totally only have technology because of capitalism. Let us all just ignore the millennia where we progressed and increased technology because it improved the quality of life for everyone and allowed more efficient yields which in turn allowed cities to form and grow.

Let's also ignore that in the span of a century and a half, we managed deforestation at unsustainable levels, desertification is increasing at unprecedented rates and oh, global climate change is on pace to make much of the earth uninhabitable to humans who lack the finances to change their environment (meaning hundreds of rich people, not the billions of people located between the two tropics). But hey, when global climate change forces unprecedented amounts of migrants to flee from those regions, do go on about how capitalism improved the quality of their lives.

Know who usually clings to praising capitalism? The people who didn't have their civilizations destroyed, plundered, beat, raped, enslaved, and otherwise denied entry into the society that they found forcefully propped up around them.
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It's funny that the Trump trolls just have this as their last bit of narrative. I was making fun of this caravan story with my republican friend, he thinks it's the stupidest thing ever. But I guess he's in a fairly different category what with the ability to think.
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oh is gunplagirl trying to push bullshit about communism again? literally all those points against capitalism are known to be factually incorrect or misleading wtf
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the migrants are good for capitalism. workers eager for work for low wages are exactly what corporations love
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Bloodychess posted...

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Remember when they weren't gonna reach the US until January?

That one archiving site remember.

in a STUNNING development, people dont remember

You can blame the news for that one, I think they legitimately showed up much quicker than expected.
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Bio1590 posted...

Bloodychess posted...

D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Remember when they weren't gonna reach the US until January?

That one archiving site remember.

in a STUNNING development, people dont remember

You can blame the news for that one, I think they legitimately showed up much quicker than expected.

IIRC, the earliest the caravan was expected to arrive was set to Thanksgiving week. Whereas the latest was in January, because it really depended on which part of the border they were going to arrive at.
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s0nicfan posted...

To the point saying the 10,000 people will just get processed... even at 50 requests processed a day (which included background checks), that's still 200 days. Assuming the US govt employees aren't working weekends, that's 40 work weeks. So we're presuming that 10,000 people are going to just wait patiently for the better part of a year, through the winter, while their applications are processed? And they're going to do this in Mexico?

Even the ~3K or so there right now will take about 3 months at the rates above.

And that presumes some sort of rushed process. The actual asylum process takes between 6 months and several years per person and is horribly backed up:
https://immigrationforum.org/article/fact-sheet-u-s-asylum-process/

Under the defensive asylum process, applicants must go through the immigration court system, which faces significant backlogs. As of July 2018, there were over 733,000 pending immigration cases and the average wait time for an immigration hearing was 721 days. The backlog has been worsening over the past decade as the funding for immigration judges has failed to keep pace with an increasing case load.

Well you can deny all the Central Americans outright because they are doing it wrong. You apply in the nearest country: Mexico. You dont get to shop around when applying for asylum.
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King_Hellebuyck posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.

I could've sworn Doom_Art posted about how it's just 500 people or 700 people or something.

I couldve sworn is Proudclad for Im making this up

lol
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

oh is gunplagirl trying to push bullshit about communism again? literally all those points against capitalism are known to be factually incorrect or misleading wtf

Ah yes that's right, global climate change was accelerated centuries before capitalism and it was covered up by people who had zero financial gain in continuing to do so
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tennisdude818 posted...

Well you can deny all the Central Americans outright because they are doing it wrong. You apply in the nearest country: Mexico. You dont get to shop around when applying for asylum.

asylum isn't strictly a matter of developed/stable nations doing a favor for citizens of underdeveloped nations, though

any immigrants in the caravan with advanced degrees, industry-viable skills, or potential to be economic assets to the US are likely to be accepted regardless of what procedure dictates

those who are unskilled laborers are likely out of luck and will probably be transported back home if they attempt to enter and stay illegally after being denied.
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Darkman124 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

Well you can deny all the Central Americans outright because they are doing it wrong. You apply in the nearest country: Mexico. You dont get to shop around when applying for asylum.

asylum isn't strictly a matter of developed/stable nations doing a favor for citizens of underdeveloped nations, though

any immigrants in the caravan with advanced degrees, industry-viable skills, or potential to be economic assets to the US are likely to be accepted regardless of what procedure dictates

those who are unskilled laborers are likely out of luck and will probably be transported back home if they attempt to enter and stay illegally after being denied.

So the overwhelming majority are going back? Guess we will see. If not, you can bet that this strategy will be used again and again.

Edit: guess you get to stay either way if youre pregnant.
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