Current Events > John Kelly signed an...interesting order today.

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Bio1590
11/21/18 5:42:00 PM
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https://newrepublic.com/minutes/152373/john-kelly-signs-order-allowing-american-troops-use-lethal-force-border

John Kelly signs an order allowing American troops to use lethal force at the border.

The Military Times is reporting that Kelly, the White House chief of staff, has signed a memo that authorizing the American military to perform those military protective activities that the Secretary of Defense determines are reasonably necessary in the service of defending border agents. The memo, described as a Cabinet order, defines these activities to include a show or use of force (including lethal force, where necessary), crowd control, temporary detention. and cursory search.

Its unclear why this authorization came from the desk of Kelly, rather than the president. Further, as the Military Times notes, the order might run afoul of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which restricts the use of the military for domestic purposes.

As The Military Times notes, the new order is in keeping with the innovative use of the military for border control under the Trump administration. Military forces always have the inherent right to self defense, but defense of the border agents on U.S. soil is new, the newspaper points out. In addition, troops have been given additional authorities in previous years to assist border agents with drug interdictions, but the widespread authorization of use of force for thousands of active-duty troops is unique to this deployment.

In early November, President Donald Trump seemed to suggest that lethal force would be an appropriate response to migrants who threw rocks at American personnel. I told them, consider that a rifle, Trump told reporters. When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexico military and police, I say consider it a rifle. The president later backtracked, after the comments were criticized by retired military officers.


John Kelly isn't in the Military chain of command so this is...basically nothing.
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The Great Muta 22
11/21/18 5:43:38 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
John Kelly isn't in the Military chain of command so this is...basically nothing.


Why can I see this being something Kelly did to placate Trump's incessant bitching and wanting him to do so while not knowing it doesn't actually do anything?
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BruceWayneJr
11/21/18 5:53:27 PM
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Apparently Mattis refused to go along with it and they went behind his back.
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SchoolForAnts
11/21/18 5:58:40 PM
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Kelly is on his way out so he decided to go for one last act of racial hatred before his ouster.

What, you guys didnt know he was racist? He may not be Miller or Keebler loud, but he (along with Miller) tanked the dreamer talks and referred to the dreamers as lazy, and strongly opposed any sort of immigration compromise. Then he lied about a black congresswoman and then refused to apologize too.
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Dampproof
11/21/18 6:01:43 PM
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The Military Times is reporting that Kelly, the White House chief of staff, has signed a memo that authorizing the American military to perform those military protective activities that the Secretary of Defense determines are reasonably necessary


John Kelly signed a memo basically saying "Listen to your boss"

This is just PR for the fan base. It's the equivalent of saying "9/11" at a rally in 2002: everyone in the crowd will cheer, it doesn't matter what the context is.
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Bio1590
11/21/18 6:04:58 PM
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Dampproof posted...

John Kelly signed a memo basically saying "Listen to your boss"

Yeah but it carries just as much authority as if literally you or I had signed it >_>
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