Current Events > C/D - 99% of tournament arcs are just the writers being lazy

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K181
11/20/18 1:44:31 PM
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Why have actual plot progression when you can instead have all the good and bad guys agree to a tournament?
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darkphoenix181
11/20/18 1:45:33 PM
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That is why the plot to most fighting games like dead or alive is a big tournament.
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pinky0926
11/20/18 1:49:49 PM
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Yeah I fucking hate it.

But then I remember I'm complaining about children's cartoons written so that 12 year olds can fee cool and I get over it
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Muffinz0rz
11/20/18 1:49:59 PM
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Literally the only tournament arc I can think of is the DBZS tournament of power

Which did turn out to be pretty lazy, although it was fun to see some of the randoms get back into the fray and sorta eliminate the ridiculous power scaling
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Damn_Underscore
11/20/18 1:51:10 PM
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No.

The Dark Tournament in Yu Yu Hakusho is arguably the gold standard of anime, and the World Tournament in DBZ at the beginning of the Buu saga is great too.
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A_Good_Boy
11/20/18 1:52:10 PM
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YYH was like 90% tournaments. Even when it didn't need to be it still shoehorned everyone into 1on1 fights where everyone just stood around and watched tournament style battles happen.
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K181
11/20/18 1:55:20 PM
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Yeah, YYH was the show that essentially cemented the over reliance tournament trope nonsense. At least in DB they had the three tournaments as goals for up and coming martial artists, so there is a plot thread that makes sense there, albeit it fell off a cliff with Super.

YYH had a tournament almost every arc. Just got boring even when the fight scenes were great. Good choreography =/= a good story.
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Sunhawk
11/20/18 1:56:05 PM
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Tournament arc? I don't even understand what this is.
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K181
11/20/18 1:57:06 PM
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Sunhawk posted...
Tournament arc? I don't even understand what this is.


A bunch of episodes in a row where the plot is essentially a martial arts tournament.
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pinky0926
11/20/18 1:57:24 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
No.

The Dark Tournament in Yu Yu Hakusho is arguably the gold standard of anime, and the World Tournament in DBZ at the beginning of the Buu saga is great too.


YYH is a great example actually because that really was the laziest plot setup ever. Watch it again and appreciate that all the characters are so fucking carried away by being stronger than then other guy that they really don't give a shit about anything important to them anymore. Just a bunch of guys stroking their own egos, desperate to win the tournament so they can say they did.

Yeah it was a fun watch but don't pretend it was writing mastery, the background plot really just served as a carrier.
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YookaLaylee
11/20/18 1:58:49 PM
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Slayerblade11
11/20/18 2:01:47 PM
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The my hero academia one was good
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A_Good_Boy
11/20/18 2:02:36 PM
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My Hero Academia is like half tournaments too.
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Freddie_Mercury
11/20/18 2:04:21 PM
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>plot
>shonen
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uwnim
11/20/18 2:04:52 PM
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Tbh, the plots in a lot of battle things suck and just exist to provide a reason for the fights.
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YookaLaylee
11/20/18 3:17:46 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
My Hero Academia is like half tournaments too.

Thats why its dull
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EffectAndCause
11/20/18 3:21:34 PM
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If you cut out the tournament arcs from DB/Z/S/GT itd be like 500 less episodes.
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hollow_shrine
11/20/18 3:22:58 PM
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YookaLaylee posted...
Hard C

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