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FursonaNonGrata
11/17/18 8:07:07 PM
#51:


Get fucked nazi bitches
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shokan_warrior
11/17/18 8:11:35 PM
#52:


I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.
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SchoolForAnts
11/17/18 8:15:02 PM
#53:


Womp womp.

Where are the freedom of speech alt righters from CE now? :D
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SchoolForAnts
11/17/18 8:15:48 PM
#54:


shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


So if the shoe doesnt fit why did you feel the need to say that?

Did you just call yourself a Nazi?
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SchoolForAnts
11/17/18 8:16:18 PM
#55:


SchoolForAnts posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


So if the shoe doesnt fit why did you feel the need to say that?

Did you just call yourself a Nazi?


@shokan_warrior
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hockeybub89
11/17/18 8:16:26 PM
#56:


shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.

Not trying to silence someone else. Don't send months worth of death threats to a real estate agent's family. It's pretty properly defined to anyone not being disgenuous.
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Dash_Harber
11/17/18 8:18:04 PM
#57:


SchoolForAnts posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


So if the shoe doesnt fit why did you feel the need to say that?

Did you just call yourself a Nazi?


@shokan_warrior


Harassment is incredibly well defined, shokan is just an outspoken advocate of Nazism, or at least, what he thinks it is.
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Kineth
11/17/18 8:20:02 PM
#58:


shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


I have no idea how to feel about this post since you're admitting to being a Neo-Nazi. I suppose I'm ok with the fact that aren't hiding it unlike the rest of the ones here, but man.... that's a disgusting organization to be associated with.
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SchoolForAnts
11/17/18 8:23:13 PM
#60:


Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


I have no idea how to feel about this post since you're admitting to being a Neo-Nazi. I suppose I'm ok with the fact that aren't hiding it unlike the rest of the ones here, but man.... that's a disgusting organization to be associated with.


I know how to feel about it. Disgusted since the mods treat self-avowed Nazis with baby gloves while throwing the TOS at people for petty stuff if they dont like them. It tells you A LOT about the mods leanings
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SchoolForAnts
11/17/18 8:23:40 PM
#61:


Conflict posted...
@kayoticdreamz posted...
Dampproof posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
1st amendment is there to protect impolite speech.

Imagine defending censorship just because you don't like what they have to say. Liberals are going to be the death of America


Imagine defending Nazi's.
Imagine thinking that being against Nazi's and what they stand for is going to be the death of America.
WWII Vets be spinning so hard in their graves, god rest their souls.

I'm defending the right to speak freely, even speak things I disagree with without fear.

You're arguing censorship because anyone that disagree with you is a nazi, and at the rate the left calls people nazis, you'd think everyone was a nazi


They were harassing someone and their whole fucking family. Are you fucking stupid?


Can confirm. Dude was like shoot the caravan like animals.
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hockeybub89
11/17/18 8:24:01 PM
#62:


Conflict posted...
@kayoticdreamz posted...
Dampproof posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
1st amendment is there to protect impolite speech.

Imagine defending censorship just because you don't like what they have to say. Liberals are going to be the death of America


Imagine defending Nazi's.
Imagine thinking that being against Nazi's and what they stand for is going to be the death of America.
WWII Vets be spinning so hard in their graves, god rest their souls.

I'm defending the right to speak freely, even speak things I disagree with without fear.

You're arguing censorship because anyone that disagree with you is a nazi, and at the rate the left calls people nazis, you'd think everyone was a nazi


They were harassing someone and their whole fucking family. Are you fucking stupid?

That's just like... their opinion, maaaaannnn
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SchoolForAnts
11/17/18 8:24:43 PM
#63:


Dash_Harber posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
SchoolForAnts posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


So if the shoe doesnt fit why did you feel the need to say that?

Did you just call yourself a Nazi?


@shokan_warrior


Harassment is incredibly well defined, shokan is just an outspoken advocate of Nazism, or at least, what he thinks it is.


And therefore he will have virtual moderation immunity. Fuck stormfaqs
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Zeeak4444
11/17/18 8:28:40 PM
#64:


God there's so many stupid people on this board.

Literally crying about harassment not being covered by the 1st. What a bunch of limp dick losers.
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Kineth
11/17/18 8:32:21 PM
#65:


SchoolForAnts posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


I have no idea how to feel about this post since you're admitting to being a Neo-Nazi. I suppose I'm ok with the fact that aren't hiding it unlike the rest of the ones here, but man.... that's a disgusting organization to be associated with.


I know how to feel about it. Disgusted since the mods treat self-avowed Nazis with baby gloves while throwing the TOS at people for petty stuff if they dont like them. It tells you A LOT about the mods leanings


I agree with that, but that's not something I can control so it's a waste for me to be upset here. That said, I've already felt that way, though I'm not sure I can say that that is how the mods lean. I will however say that there is likely a presence on the mod staff that does sympathize with such opinions.
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Blue_Dream87
11/17/18 8:39:06 PM
#66:


Can't we strike a deal with Russia to send all these fucking scumbags to Siberia?
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The Great Muta 22
11/17/18 9:01:57 PM
#67:


Blue_Dream87 posted...
Can't we strike a deal with Russia to send all these fucking scumbags to Siberia?


It wouldn't surprise me at all if Anglin was currently residing in Transnistria, which is an unrecognized state that split from Moldova after the fall of the USSR that basically doesn't give a single shit about anything. That's where that scum fucker and his partner for the site 'Weev' is rumored to be currently held up.
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jborgan
11/17/18 9:10:52 PM
#68:


@kayoticdreamz posted...
Dampproof posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
1st amendment is there to protect impolite speech.

Imagine defending censorship just because you don't like what they have to say. Liberals are going to be the death of America


Imagine defending Nazi's.
Imagine thinking that being against Nazi's and what they stand for is going to be the death of America.
WWII Vets be spinning so hard in their graves, god rest their souls.

I'm defending the right to speak freely, even speak things I disagree with without fear.

You're arguing censorship because anyone that disagree with you is a nazi, and at the rate the left calls people nazis, you'd think everyone was a nazi

Imagine being so shitty that you're going to ignore the family being relentlessly harassed and cry about the Nazis' right to harass them instead. Guarantee you won't post here again, you fucking coward.
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iPhone_7
11/17/18 9:24:55 PM
#70:


This is just straight up harassment
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Bio1590
11/17/18 9:26:01 PM
#71:


I'm not crazy and kayoticdreamz is another one of those "used to be a normal, okay poster" accounts right?
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Kineth
11/17/18 9:27:13 PM
#72:


Bio1590 posted...
I'm not crazy and kayoticdreamz is another one of those "used to be a normal, okay poster" accounts right?


Yeah, at least, I think so.
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shokan_warrior
11/17/18 9:59:08 PM
#73:


Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


I have no idea how to feel about this post since you're admitting to being a Neo-Nazi. I suppose I'm ok with the fact that aren't hiding it unlike the rest of the ones here, but man.... that's a disgusting organization to be associated with.

There's a difference between the "neos" and the historical group as well as any other more serious groups

The neos are just hateful people clinging to something they think represents their ideas

I'm still in search of ideas and want to clarify that while I do look favorably on some of the ideas of national socialism i do not identify as, nor will I tolerate being called, a neo-nazi

The word has me thinking of skinheads and tattooed degenerates

I'm absolutely not such a person

To be honest I'm half trolling half sharing ideas to test their validity outside of my own head

Because of my "liking" of fascism I WILL tolerate being called a fascist or nazi as to me they are linked to a historical reality that is "respectable" in appearance and not the senseless hateful degeneracy of "neos"
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DeathVelvien
11/17/18 10:21:06 PM
#74:


So many people to tag in just one topic
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Bio1590
11/17/18 10:48:19 PM
#75:


shokan warrior posted...


lmao what the actual literal fuck
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Delirious_Beard
11/17/18 10:52:40 PM
#76:


wow what a surprise that shokan is in this topic
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RebelElite791
11/17/18 11:03:21 PM
#77:


shokan has been suspended like 3 times in the past half a year for posting pro-Nazi shit, can't understand why he's not banned.

Then again we have a new mod who thinks the Nazis "weren't all bad at the start" so
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Lordgold666
11/17/18 11:04:24 PM
#78:


Fair, next
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SchoolForAnts
11/17/18 11:07:01 PM
#79:


jborgan posted...
@kayoticdreamz posted...
Dampproof posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
1st amendment is there to protect impolite speech.

Imagine defending censorship just because you don't like what they have to say. Liberals are going to be the death of America


Imagine defending Nazi's.
Imagine thinking that being against Nazi's and what they stand for is going to be the death of America.
WWII Vets be spinning so hard in their graves, god rest their souls.

I'm defending the right to speak freely, even speak things I disagree with without fear.

You're arguing censorship because anyone that disagree with you is a nazi, and at the rate the left calls people nazis, you'd think everyone was a nazi

Imagine being so shitty that you're going to ignore the family being relentlessly harassed and cry about the Nazis' right to harass them instead. Guarantee you won't post here again, you fucking coward.


When he has acted like this in the past it has been rumored he is the Alt account of a mod...
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SchoolForAnts
11/17/18 11:09:31 PM
#80:


@shokan_warrior posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


I have no idea how to feel about this post since you're admitting to being a Neo-Nazi. I suppose I'm ok with the fact that aren't hiding it unlike the rest of the ones here, but man.... that's a disgusting organization to be associated with.

There's a difference between the "neos" and the historical group as well as any other more serious groups

The neos are just hateful people clinging to something they think represents their ideas

I'm still in search of ideas and want to clarify that while I do look favorably on some of the ideas of national socialism i do not identify as, nor will I tolerate being called, a neo-nazi

The word has me thinking of skinheads and tattooed degenerates

I'm absolutely not such a person

To be honest I'm half trolling half sharing ideas to test their validity outside of my own head

Because of my "liking" of fascism I WILL tolerate being called a fascist or nazi as to me they are linked to a historical reality that is "respectable" in appearance and not the senseless hateful degeneracy of "neos"


In other words, you have a problem with the bad fashion choices and sloppy image, not with the whole white supremacist and racial hatred stuff.

This is the most stupid thing I have seen posted in any message board ever
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literally52
11/17/18 11:09:58 PM
#81:


does most of CE support the doxxing of the average right?
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SchoolForAnts
11/17/18 11:12:08 PM
#82:


@RebelElite791 posted...
shokan has been suspended like 3 times in the past half a year for posting pro-Nazi shit, can't understand why he's not banned.

Then again we have a new mod who thinks the Nazis "weren't all bad at the start" so


The kicker isnt even that he was suspended 3 times in the last 6 months for posting Nazi stuff.

The kicker is he came back a 4th and 5th time and the mods resorted to locking his topics so they didnt have to suspend him again.

Glittering fairy LITERALLY posted a pro-Nazi slogan and got a NKL for it.

What does that tell us about the mods?
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MrPeppers
11/17/18 11:24:41 PM
#83:


This is completely fair. Seriously, fuck those types of shitheads.
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The Great Muta 22
11/17/18 11:37:08 PM
#84:


shokan_warrior posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


I have no idea how to feel about this post since you're admitting to being a Neo-Nazi. I suppose I'm ok with the fact that aren't hiding it unlike the rest of the ones here, but man.... that's a disgusting organization to be associated with.

There's a difference between the "neos" and the historical group as well as any other more serious groups

The neos are just hateful people clinging to something they think represents their ideas

I'm still in search of ideas and want to clarify that while I do look favorably on some of the ideas of national socialism i do not identify as, nor will I tolerate being called, a neo-nazi

The word has me thinking of skinheads and tattooed degenerates

I'm absolutely not such a person

To be honest I'm half trolling half sharing ideas to test their validity outside of my own head

Because of my "liking" of fascism I WILL tolerate being called a fascist or nazi as to me they are linked to a historical reality that is "respectable" in appearance and not the senseless hateful degeneracy of "neos"


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Kineth
11/17/18 11:38:56 PM
#85:


smdh
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Solar_Crimson
11/17/18 11:45:01 PM
#86:


Glad to see the usual suspects upset about this ruling.

This was clear harassment where they were threatening their targets' family and friends. But no, liberals and SJWs are the real problem.
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Ozai_Was_Right
11/17/18 11:55:10 PM
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shokan_warrior
11/17/18 11:57:55 PM
#88:


Uh, let me be clear, uh, don't get it twisted

1) Lauren Southern is NOT a nazi of any kind

2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

I am not like that

I am not filled with hate and I am not obsessed with the JQ or any other nonsense

Hopefully that makes things clearer @SchoolForAnts
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shokan_warrior
11/17/18 11:59:12 PM
#89:


SchoolForAnts posted...
@shokan_warrior posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
I have no intention to harass anyone and I never have. I'm sorta ok with this but we need to properly define "harassment" so this is not used to silence people.


I have no idea how to feel about this post since you're admitting to being a Neo-Nazi. I suppose I'm ok with the fact that aren't hiding it unlike the rest of the ones here, but man.... that's a disgusting organization to be associated with.

There's a difference between the "neos" and the historical group as well as any other more serious groups

The neos are just hateful people clinging to something they think represents their ideas

I'm still in search of ideas and want to clarify that while I do look favorably on some of the ideas of national socialism i do not identify as, nor will I tolerate being called, a neo-nazi

The word has me thinking of skinheads and tattooed degenerates

I'm absolutely not such a person

To be honest I'm half trolling half sharing ideas to test their validity outside of my own head

Because of my "liking" of fascism I WILL tolerate being called a fascist or nazi as to me they are linked to a historical reality that is "respectable" in appearance and not the senseless hateful degeneracy of "neos"


In other words, you have a problem with the bad fashion choices and sloppy image, not with the whole white supremacist and racial hatred stuff.

This is the most stupid thing I have seen posted in any message board ever

I have repeatedly explained that I'm NOT a white supremacist nor a racist
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RebelElite791
11/17/18 11:59:58 PM
#90:


Ah yes the "traditional non-hateful Nazis"
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shokan_warrior
11/18/18 12:00:36 AM
#91:


RebelElite791 posted...
Ah yes the "traditional non-hateful Nazis"

I am my own man
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Ozai_Was_Right
11/18/18 12:00:59 AM
#92:


shokan_warrior posted...
2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

So you're just a nazi then?
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Kineth
11/18/18 12:02:50 AM
#93:


shokan_warrior posted...
Uh, let me be clear, uh, don't get it twisted

1) Lauren Southern is NOT a nazi of any kind

2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

I am not like that

I am not filled with hate and I am not obsessed with the JQ or any other nonsense

Hopefully that makes things clearer @ SchoolForAnts


Why choose to associate yourself with Nazis if you're saying you aren't one? Nazis and Neo-Nazis do not differ on their beliefs about race. Neo-Nazis just have prioritized that more than Nazis. If you're saying that you're a national socialist in the pure political sense, you shouldn't label yourself as a Nazi.

That said, when you sympathize with Neo-Nazis, Nazis and other white supremacist groups and individuals in general, it makes your words ring hollow.
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shokan_warrior
11/18/18 12:03:06 AM
#94:


Ozai_Was_Right posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

So you're just a nazi then?

More or less that's what my series of posts tries to explain

I'm "influenced" by their ideas and I try to take the full name of "national socialism" literally and have found that there is SOME basis for it and that it IS legitimate or at least as equally legitimate as any other form of socialism, national socialism taken literally that is
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shokan_warrior
11/18/18 12:03:53 AM
#95:


Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Uh, let me be clear, uh, don't get it twisted

1) Lauren Southern is NOT a nazi of any kind

2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

I am not like that

I am not filled with hate and I am not obsessed with the JQ or any other nonsense

Hopefully that makes things clearer @ SchoolForAnts


Why choose to associate yourself with Nazis if you're saying you aren't one? Nazis and Neo-Nazis do not differ on their beliefs about race. Neo-Nazis just have prioritized that more than Nazis. If you're saying that you're a national socialist in the pure political sense, you shouldn't label yourself as a Nazi.

That said, when you sympathize with Neo-Nazis, Nazis and other white supremacist groups and individuals in general, it makes your words ring hollow.

Y'all labeled me a nazi and i rolled with it because nazi os short for nazi sozi and all that
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Ozai_Was_Right
11/18/18 12:04:05 AM
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Kineth
11/18/18 12:07:24 AM
#97:


shokan_warrior posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Uh, let me be clear, uh, don't get it twisted

1) Lauren Southern is NOT a nazi of any kind

2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

I am not like that

I am not filled with hate and I am not obsessed with the JQ or any other nonsense

Hopefully that makes things clearer @ SchoolForAnts


Why choose to associate yourself with Nazis if you're saying you aren't one? Nazis and Neo-Nazis do not differ on their beliefs about race. Neo-Nazis just have prioritized that more than Nazis. If you're saying that you're a national socialist in the pure political sense, you shouldn't label yourself as a Nazi.

That said, when you sympathize with Neo-Nazis, Nazis and other white supremacist groups and individuals in general, it makes your words ring hollow.

Y'all labeled me a nazi and i rolled with it because nazi os short for nazi sozi and all that


That didn't answer why you choose to associate with them.
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YookaLaylee
11/18/18 12:08:37 AM
#98:


Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Uh, let me be clear, uh, don't get it twisted

1) Lauren Southern is NOT a nazi of any kind

2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

I am not like that

I am not filled with hate and I am not obsessed with the JQ or any other nonsense

Hopefully that makes things clearer @ SchoolForAnts


Why choose to associate yourself with Nazis if you're saying you aren't one? Nazis and Neo-Nazis do not differ on their beliefs about race. Neo-Nazis just have prioritized that more than Nazis. If you're saying that you're a national socialist in the pure political sense, you shouldn't label yourself as a Nazi.

That said, when you sympathize with Neo-Nazis, Nazis and other white supremacist groups and individuals in general, it makes your words ring hollow.

Y'all labeled me a nazi and i rolled with it because nazi os short for nazi sozi and all that


That didn't answer why you choose to associate with them.

Because he has a messed up worldview
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Kineth
11/18/18 12:17:22 AM
#100:


Shinobi120 posted...
Villain posted...
so much for the tolerant left!


Stop that bullshit.


I can assure you that he was being sarcastic.
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Shinobi120
11/18/18 12:20:51 AM
#101:


Kineth posted...
Shinobi120 posted...
Villain posted...
so much for the tolerant left!


Stop that bullshit.


I can assure you that he was being sarcastic.


Oh, I didn't know about that. But posters like kayoticdreamz, unbelievable.
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