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FrisbeeDude
11/13/18 7:05:35 PM
#102:


Paper_Okami posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If the guy wasn't in uniform, then this is a tragic accident and nothing more.


shut the fuck up

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Dragonblade01
11/13/18 7:37:35 PM
#103:


Paper_Okami posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If the guy wasn't in uniform, then this is a tragic accident and nothing more.


shut the fuck up

No
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catboy0_0
11/13/18 7:43:02 PM
#104:


Dragonblade01 posted...
If the guy wasn't in uniform, then this is a tragic accident and nothing more.

I have a feeling he might not have been.
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The Catgirl Fondler
11/13/18 7:48:50 PM
#105:


Letron_James posted...
Pigs gonna pig

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cjsdowg
11/13/18 10:06:50 PM
#106:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If the guy wasn't in uniform, then this is a tragic accident and nothing more.


shut the fuck up

No


You should, it is not an accident when you willingly pull the trigger an kill someone. That is a murder. If someone in your family would gunned down like that would be ok with it ?
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Dragonblade01
11/13/18 10:41:43 PM
#107:


cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If the guy wasn't in uniform, then this is a tragic accident and nothing more.


shut the fuck up

No


You should, it is not an accident when you willingly pull the trigger an kill someone. That is a murder. If someone in your family would gunned down like that would be ok with it ?

Mistaking an armed criminal for the armed man who subdued and kept a gun trained on him is absolutely an accident. It doesn't matter that it resulted in the security guard's tragic death. And the question of whether or not it was obvious he was the good guy is important in determining how much negligence should be attributed to the police in this situation.

Also, you seem to have this bizarre idea that accident means okay. The two words aren't related in any capacity. That's why I called it a tragic accident.
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jimbiz
11/13/18 10:52:31 PM
#108:


It's amazing. CE constantly perform mental gymnastics just to make excuses on why a black man was killed by a trigger happy cop.
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3rd_Best_Master
11/13/18 10:54:12 PM
#109:


Dragonblade01 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If the guy wasn't in uniform, then this is a tragic accident and nothing more.


shut the fuck up

No


You should, it is not an accident when you willingly pull the trigger an kill someone. That is a murder. If someone in your family would gunned down like that would be ok with it ?

Mistaking an armed criminal for the armed man who subdued and kept a gun trained on him is absolutely an accident. It doesn't matter that it resulted in the security guard's tragic death. And the question of whether or not it was obvious he was the good guy is important in determining how much negligence should be attributed to the police in this situation.

Also, you seem to have this bizarre idea that accident means okay. The two words aren't related in any capacity. That's why I called it a tragic accident.

There's no such thing as an accident involving guns. Only negligence.
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Dragonblade01
11/13/18 11:01:30 PM
#111:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If the guy wasn't in uniform, then this is a tragic accident and nothing more.


shut the fuck up

No


You should, it is not an accident when you willingly pull the trigger an kill someone. That is a murder. If someone in your family would gunned down like that would be ok with it ?

Mistaking an armed criminal for the armed man who subdued and kept a gun trained on him is absolutely an accident. It doesn't matter that it resulted in the security guard's tragic death. And the question of whether or not it was obvious he was the good guy is important in determining how much negligence should be attributed to the police in this situation.

Also, you seem to have this bizarre idea that accident means okay. The two words aren't related in any capacity. That's why I called it a tragic accident.

There's no such thing as an accident involving guns. Only negligence.

They aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, they very frequently occur together.
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St0rmFury
11/13/18 11:27:21 PM
#112:


He would've made a good cop too, since he practices restraint. Or maybe that will make him a bad cop, idk.
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1NfamousACE_2
11/14/18 6:16:10 AM
#113:


Dragonblade01 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If the guy wasn't in uniform, then this is a tragic accident and nothing more.


shut the fuck up

No


You should, it is not an accident when you willingly pull the trigger an kill someone. That is a murder. If someone in your family would gunned down like that would be ok with it ?

Mistaking an armed criminal for the armed man who subdued and kept a gun trained on him is absolutely an accident. It doesn't matter that it resulted in the security guard's tragic death. And the question of whether or not it was obvious he was the good guy is important in determining how much negligence should be attributed to the police in this situation.

Also, you seem to have this bizarre idea that accident means okay. The two words aren't related in any capacity. That's why I called it a tragic accident.


Its not tragic because the cops should have properly assessed the situation before using lethal force.

Its murder.
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shnangyboos
11/14/18 6:22:39 AM
#114:


Cops just show up and start throwing bullets around without having any idea what the fuck is going on. Seriously, if you're going to give these fuckers this kind of power and authority, there needs to be more severe consequences when they fuck up, not less severe.
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gunplagirl
11/14/18 6:32:20 AM
#115:


St0rmFury posted...
He would've made a good cop too, since he practices restraint. Or maybe that will make him a bad cop, idk.

Ding. He'd not have been a cop long because he'd actually do the right thing.
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ModLogic
11/14/18 6:37:55 AM
#116:


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Dragonblade01
11/14/18 7:27:09 AM
#117:


1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
If the guy wasn't in uniform, then this is a tragic accident and nothing more.


shut the fuck up

No


You should, it is not an accident when you willingly pull the trigger an kill someone. That is a murder. If someone in your family would gunned down like that would be ok with it ?

Mistaking an armed criminal for the armed man who subdued and kept a gun trained on him is absolutely an accident. It doesn't matter that it resulted in the security guard's tragic death. And the question of whether or not it was obvious he was the good guy is important in determining how much negligence should be attributed to the police in this situation.

Also, you seem to have this bizarre idea that accident means okay. The two words aren't related in any capacity. That's why I called it a tragic accident.


Its not tragic because the cops should have properly assessed the situation before using lethal force.

Its murder.

That's not what murder is. And of course it's tragic. Even if it was murder, it would still be tragic.

They had to assess the situation with the information that there is an armed gunman on the scene. This outcome was always in the realm of possibility. Don't underestimate the speed at which these decisions need to be made.
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cjsdowg
11/14/18 7:41:14 AM
#118:


Dragonblade01 posted...

That's not what murder is. And of course it's tragic. Even if it was murder, it would still be tragic.

They had to assess the situation with the information that there is an armed gunman on the scene. This outcome was always in the realm of possibility. Don't underestimate the speed at which these decisions need to be made.


People told him that the guy he shot was the good guy before he did the killing. But when the victim is black people make every excuse in the book to let their killers off.
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Kineth
11/14/18 7:47:20 AM
#119:


People looking for any excuse to play Devil's Advocate to justify or downplay ending someone's life.
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Dragonblade01
11/14/18 7:51:01 AM
#120:


cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

That's not what murder is. And of course it's tragic. Even if it was murder, it would still be tragic.

They had to assess the situation with the information that there is an armed gunman on the scene. This outcome was always in the realm of possibility. Don't underestimate the speed at which these decisions need to be made.


People told him that the guy he shot was the good guy before he did the killing. But when the victim is black people make ever excuse in the book to let their killers off.

And unfortunately, that information must not have been processed in the time that the decision needed to be made.

And before you try to make me out to be some sort of racist with that second line, you should know that I've been very critical of cops in the many topics made about them on this board.
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3rd_Best_Master
11/14/18 7:51:49 AM
#121:


ModLogic posted...
lots of rabbling itt from the usual victims

You still mad that the mods won't let you post swastikas?
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cjsdowg
11/14/18 7:53:27 AM
#122:


Dragonblade01 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

That's not what murder is. And of course it's tragic. Even if it was murder, it would still be tragic.

They had to assess the situation with the information that there is an armed gunman on the scene. This outcome was always in the realm of possibility. Don't underestimate the speed at which these decisions need to be made.


People told him that the guy he shot was the good guy before he did the killing. But when the victim is black people make ever excuse in the book to let their killers off.

And unfortunately, that information must not have been processed in the time that the decision needed to be made.

And before you try to make me out to be some sort of racist with that second line, you should know that I've been very critical of cops in the many topics made about them on this board.


If you can't process information you don't need to be murdering people.
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Dragonblade01
11/14/18 8:00:57 AM
#123:


cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

That's not what murder is. And of course it's tragic. Even if it was murder, it would still be tragic.

They had to assess the situation with the information that there is an armed gunman on the scene. This outcome was always in the realm of possibility. Don't underestimate the speed at which these decisions need to be made.


People told him that the guy he shot was the good guy before he did the killing. But when the victim is black people make ever excuse in the book to let their killers off.

And unfortunately, that information must not have been processed in the time that the decision needed to be made.

And before you try to make me out to be some sort of racist with that second line, you should know that I've been very critical of cops in the many topics made about them on this board.


If you can't process information you don't need to be murdering people.

And again, I really have ask that people not underestimate the speed at which these decisions need to be made. If an officer has to decide whether an armed person is dangerous or not, especially when they arrived at the scene specifically because an armed person was present, then a decision may need to be made before any bystander has enough time to finish their sentence.
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3rd_Best_Master
11/14/18 8:05:03 AM
#124:


Dragonblade01 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

That's not what murder is. And of course it's tragic. Even if it was murder, it would still be tragic.

They had to assess the situation with the information that there is an armed gunman on the scene. This outcome was always in the realm of possibility. Don't underestimate the speed at which these decisions need to be made.


People told him that the guy he shot was the good guy before he did the killing. But when the victim is black people make ever excuse in the book to let their killers off.

And unfortunately, that information must not have been processed in the time that the decision needed to be made.

And before you try to make me out to be some sort of racist with that second line, you should know that I've been very critical of cops in the many topics made about them on this board.


If you can't process information you don't need to be murdering people.

And again, I really have ask that people not underestimate the speed at which these decisions need to be made. If an officer has to decide whether an armed person is dangerous or not, especially when they arrived at the scene specifically because an armed person was present, then a decision may need to be made before any bystander has enough time to finish their sentence.

I don't understand how you can enter a place with an "active shooter", see everyone around you being calm, have everyone around you screaming for you to slow down, and still decide you need to pull the trigger without thinking.
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Kineth
11/14/18 8:09:19 AM
#125:


Point is that calling it an "accident" downplays a person's life being ended for the wrong reasons. It was clearly improperly handled, yet you're talking about why it was handled properly, in a roundabout way.

This shouldn't have happened and the police officer fucked up. Saying why he sorta, but didn't really fuck up isn't productive.
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Bishop9800
11/14/18 1:27:44 PM
#126:


3rd_Best_Master posted...
ModLogic posted...
lots of rabbling itt from the usual victims

You still mad that the mods won't let you post swastikas?


Got em
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Paper_Okami
11/14/18 1:29:51 PM
#127:


Bishop9800 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
ModLogic posted...
lots of rabbling itt from the usual victims

You still mad that the mods won't let you post swastikas?


Got em


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ignore the drake stuff
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andel
11/14/18 1:30:46 PM
#128:


if a cop can't correctly determine that this guy was the good guy in this instance he isnt fit to be a cop. that is really the best thing you can say about the cop in this instance and he should be fired and charged with manslaughter
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Darksaber310
11/14/18 1:38:26 PM
#129:


I'm gonna wait for footage or evidence. If the cop just shot as soon as he saw him then it looks pretty bad. How did he get there without knowing the situation was contained? Did people forget the cops aren't prescient?

If he did not shoot instantly and gave commands to drop the weapon? Changes the game significantly.
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Oatcakes
11/14/18 1:39:42 PM
#130:


ModLogic posted...
lots of rabbling itt from the usual victims


You chose your account name because you're not a victim.
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