Board 8 > Danganronpa Mafia - CHAPTER 4: The Lying Tactician

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Another remnant of despair was discovered in our group.... but surely all the remaining friends I've made here are trustworthy, right?

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*Ding Dong Dong Ding*

Monokuma: A BODY HAS BEEN DISCOVERED!

Apparently not...

Monokuma: I'm glad at least ONE of you is still planning to graduate! The rest of you are all focusing on the wrong things...you'll never find the MASTERMIND.

We all gathered in the Nurse's Office. There we found the body of Kanz, stabbed with a syringe filled with some kind of poison. Kanz was such a big help to us. And apparently had more power than he let on.

You are KanzarisKelshen, ULTIMATE TACTICIAN (Town)

A good tactician moves his men like pawns in a chess game, but you are a great tactician because of your dedication to make sure as few lives are lost as possible. We at Hopes Peak Academy have long marveled at your history and how few casualties you have attained on the battlefield. We want your selflessness and wisdom to inspire the world over.

As the ULTIMATE TACTICIAN, you have a multitude of tricks up your sleeve. You have a 1-shot DOCTOR save, which protects the person you select from any night kills. You have a 1-shot JAILER ability, which both protects the target from kills and roleblocks them. And finally you have a 1-shot BODYGAURD ability, where if your target is struck with a nightkill, you will die in their stead. You can only choose up to one ability to use per night.

You win when HOPE triumphs over DESPAIR!

Monokuma: We will now hold a Class Trial to determine the identity of the culprit! Investigation phase, begin!

LIVING

1. HanOfTheNekos
2. TheSultanOfSlam
3. DarkYoungLink
4. Neablis
5. Johnbob
6. Turbopuns2
7. IfGodCouldDie
8. Htaed
9. Sheep
10. Corrik

DEAD

DK1. DoomTheGyarados, ULTIMATE MAFIA PLAYER - TOWN Day Hider
LD1. Scarechan, ULTIMATE GUNSLINGER - TOWN Vanilla
LD2. Obellisk, ULTIMATE PARENT - MAFIA Godfather Bulletproof
NK2. Forceful_Dragon, ULTIMATE CHEMIST - TOWN Vanilla
LD3. Doopliss_Power, ULTIMATE CHESS PLAYER - MAFIA Gladiator
NK3. KanzarisKelshin, ULTIMATE TACTICIAN - TOWN Doctor Jack

WITH 10 ALIVE, IT TAKES 6 VOTES TO LYNCH. DAY ENDS MONDAY AT 10PM EST.
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@HanOfTheNekos
@TheSultanOfSlam
@Dark_Young_Link
@Neablis
@Johnbobb
@turbopuns2
@IfGodCouldDie
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@htaeD
@Sheep007
@Corrik
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Jolly good

So we now know scum decided to use Doop's power and neglect to attempt to kill Neablis even when given the chance.

I am about to go to sleep. Why would scum want to kill me though? Half of the game is tunneled on me.

In any case I'll post thoughts in the morning

@Neablis posted...

I am about to go to sleep. Why would scum want to kill me though? Half of the game is tunneled on me.

In any case I'll post thoughts in the morning

Who did you give a power to and what did you give them?
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Neablis posted...

I am about to go to sleep. Why would scum want to kill me though? Half of the game is tunneled on me.

In any case I'll post thoughts in the morning

Immediate thought is to try to "confirm" one of you as town when the other flipped, since you've both been looking guilty for a while now
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Neablis posted...

Why would scum want to kill me though? Half of the game is tunneled on me.

I was talking about yesterday's lynch.

Doop being scum and choosing a target he could lose to is wild.

I almost think they were both scum to make the other look good. But, that might be a stretch. Neab is likely town.
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That said. Two people visited Han last night.

But Han is alive. So...
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Hello?
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And Doop was maf after all. That's what I get for second guessing myself.
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Can someone summarize what all corrik has said about his role and actions so far? I keep forgetting he's even claiming a power

Tag
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This game just wow.
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Tag for some reason
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Suuuuunday....

Also I am noticing neither Neab nor DYL have given their actions.

Regardless, we need to set a time to massclaim.

turbopuns2 posted...

So we now know scum decided to use Doop's power and neglect to attempt to kill Neablis even when given the chance.

Wait. What makes you so sure scum didnttry to kill you? Since Kanz died, the chance is great that he sacrificed himself as a BG to save another player. That could be you, for all we know.
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htaeD posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

So we now know scum decided to use Doop's power and neglect to attempt to kill Neablis even when given the chance.

Wait. What makes you so sure scum didnttry to kill you? Since Kanz died, the chance is great that he sacrificed himself as a BG to save another player. That could be you, for all we know.

Umm, what? Your response makes no sense with regard to my post.

Somehow I need to clarify this for the 2nd time within the first 20 posts...

...when I said scum neglected to attempt to kill Niablis I was talking about lynching him instead of Doop. There were enough people and reasons on that side of the gladiator to make a Niablis lynch happen, but they still hung Doop out to dry.

Death, we need to same-time claim. John and God too, preferably at the same time as us. Puns should fullclaim. Think I figured out how Corrik's role works.
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Also literally everyone in the entire game looks like town to me now which is not a good thing. Like, God is basically top of my lynch list, and I felt really damn sure about him and the guy he replaced D1 being town.
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I quoted the wrong post there Puns, whoops.
Was meant to quote Neabs post.

Didnt even notice your comment on neglecting to kill Neab, but I see your explanation now.

Anyway as for times, I will be here most of the day.
Any hour before my 1 AM is good.
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Oh wait Han exists doesn't he

Un cc'd cop my arse
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and yeah any time before that is good with my too, Death, just need God and John to show
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Tag
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Keep thinking about this...

Assuming Kanz did use his BG last night. (I dont think scum would shoot Kanz directly), he would have used his docsave night2.
So maybe he did stop a kill, because the N2 kill maybe wasnt FD but someone else. And FD died through some other means. Which brings me back to my poison theory.
......
On the other hand I dont know why scum would want to poison FD...

Maybe Kanz hinted at something.
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Scum would absolutely want to kill Kanz. He's been vocal, and nobody thought he was scum. Same reason they would want to kill FD.
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The whole nobody thinking they were scum, for FD (who was somewhat vocal, mind)
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Maybe
Corriks role can be played around and DYLs role is useless.
But a cop and a double vote giver is a major threat to them.
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Han isn't the cop though

And I feel like some people are still suspicious of Mean even now. And someone who could've been full time jailer is surely a bigger target
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*Neab
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Why do you think that Han is not the cop no matter what here?

I mean the way that people were going after Han after the DYL/Han fight and also that he was going to be the lynch target...it sort of screams to me that he is town in that situation. Unless you have a good argument against that.

@Sheep007

did you just @ someone who was already here???

Also I give Han credit for voting Doop in the end. (Though I am taking that all away if Neab turns out to be scum, naturally)
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I am a rebel!

but seriously hi death, also if there is a poisoner why are we still just seeing one kill here? are you stating that kanz was a double kill from poisoner and mafia shot? That seems a bit unlikely to me so far

poisoners are usually oneshot
They'd be too broken otherwise
It could be part of a scumjack, like the daykill.

Still, as usual, dont take my theorycrafting too seriously
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The way my role works is that I get told a person that is visited by the most people at night and the number that visited them. If it is a tie, it is randomized from the top people visited for who I receive.

That is it.

Ultimate Video Gamer.

Blah blah so good at games it is like I have inside knowledge or are cheating.

Everyone I have gotten so far has been visited by 2 people. Which means, no one has been visited by 3 people at night all game because 2 is the highest number of visitors.

I expected there to be way more 1 visitors instead of 2.

Which is why I said DYL's role probably is only in the game for my role.

I don't really get much info, but it is something. It is why I don't outright think Han is scum despite him being a claimed scanner. He claimed with people not claimed yet on the most common investigative role. He has I assume remained roleblocked all game and on the night there was no kill he was jailkept which would save from a kill.

The only way he could really be scum is if kanz stopped Han from making the kill night 1. But then it makes everything above the opposite which is really unlikely. Han has never struck me as much of a risk taker.
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So I would say

Town
Han
DYL
IGCD
Sultan

Likely Town
Neablis
Sheep

Scum
Death
Johnbobb
Puns
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##vote: death

Claim or die.
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Neab, DYL, who did you use your abilities on last night?
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Death, John, Puns and God should all claim fully at the same time as me. At least the first three. Also, Corrik's thinking seems to be the same as mine except not.
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Just gotta be patient Corrik, I am sametiming with everyone else.

In the mean time you can tell me what your beef is with me.
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Sheep007 posted...

Also literally everyone in the entire game looks like town to me now which is not a good thing. Like, God is basically top of my lynch list, and I felt really damn sure about him and the guy he replaced D1 being town.

There hasn't been a single game since you have been back where i have been mafia but every single game I am one of your top scumspects, are you just going to try and lynch me every game until you're finally right?
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By the way there is a ninja on scum team so if neither Neab nor DYL visited Han and he doesn't claimed roleblocked he is confirmed scum
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Sheep007 posted...

Also literally everyone in the entire game looks like town to me now which is not a good thing. Like, God is basically top of my lynch list, and I felt really damn sure about him and the guy he replaced D1 being town.

There hasn't been a single game since you have been back where i have been mafia but every single game I am one of your top scumspects, are you just going to try and lynch me every game until you're finally right?

Nah, you're just top because everyone else looks like Town right now. Sorry. If it's any consolation, you look like Town as well, just slightly less so than the others.
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Oh, yeah, and God, can you sametime claim with me and Death? And hopefully John when he shows.
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Neab should have visited Johnbobb, shouldnt he?
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Yea I can same time.
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Neab should have, which leaves DYL. If he didn't visit Han then Han is basically confirmed scum before I (hopefully) bury him.

Also if there is a roleblocker it literally has to be God or Sultan. There is no possible alternative.
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I am kinda not following the logic on Han and Ninjas and roleblocks btw.

(And I am not sure if scum has to have a ninja, but I will leave that aside for now)
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