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Bestoffuture
11/09/18 7:06:08 PM
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https://thehill.com/homenews/media/415951-ocasio-cortez-rips-fox-news-for-cracking-jokes-about-her-finances-it-shows

Fuck Fox news. Elitist assholes
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MC_BatCommander
11/09/18 7:06:39 PM
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she's got the right so frazzled, living rent-free in their heads 24/7
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Damn_Underscore
11/09/18 7:07:27 PM
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>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one
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CyricZ
11/09/18 7:07:35 PM
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I was gonna say, if she needs a place in DC until she assumes office, I'm sure there are plenty of FOX News correspondents down there with heads she can live rent free in.
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Bestoffuture
11/09/18 7:07:57 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
she's got the right so frazzled, living rent-free in their heads 24/7


The Boogeyman to replace Pelosi
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Dash_Harber
11/09/18 7:12:07 PM
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Damn, son.

She has a future in politics, that's for-fucking-sure. That's the way to handle this shit. Shut it down right away, not drag out some flimsy as pissing contest for months like Trump.
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3rd_Best_Master
11/09/18 7:12:51 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one

She's never had a job?
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s0nicfan
11/09/18 7:16:35 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one

She's never had a job?


The district she won is a working-class one, and she sold herself as an "everyman" fighting for their interests. What gets lost in the noise is that while she was born there, she spent most of her life growing up and living in an extremely wealthy District not far from there. In terms of actual upbringing, she's much closer to a Romney or wealthy establishment type then she is a Joe plumber.

That's not to say she isn't capable. I'm just simply pointing out that her image as she sells it doesn't match her profile.

Edit: this whole rent thing is actually a great example. She can of course afford an apartment. However, she wants to play up the image of someone struggling to pay their bills, so she pushes this story.
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Dash_Harber
11/09/18 7:18:38 PM
#10:


s0nicfan posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one

She's never had a job?


The district she won is a working-class one, and she sold herself as an "everyman" fighting for their interests. What gets lost in the noise is that while she was born there, she spent most of her life growing up and living in an extremely wealthy District not far from there. In terms of actual upbringing, she's much closer to a Romney or wealthy establishment type then she is a Joe plumber.

That's not to say she isn't capable. I'm just simply pointing out that her image as she sells it doesn't match her profile.

Edit: this whole rent thing is actually a great example. She can of course afford an apartment. However, she wants to play up the image of someone struggling to pay their bills, so she pushes this story.


However, I'd like to point out that Trump did the exact same thing, less successfully, and the people criticizing her were once vocal proponents of him, so it comes off as incredibly hypocritical.
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Damn_Underscore
11/09/18 7:20:24 PM
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Politics today is one big swamp of hypocrisy.

If this lady is living rent-free in people's heads, how exactly is Donald Trump faring?
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King_Hellebuyck
11/09/18 7:20:57 PM
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Yeah we all know bartenders are making $500k per year and arent working class
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s0nicfan
11/09/18 7:23:21 PM
#13:


Dash_Harber posted...
s0nicfan posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one

She's never had a job?


The district she won is a working-class one, and she sold herself as an "everyman" fighting for their interests. What gets lost in the noise is that while she was born there, she spent most of her life growing up and living in an extremely wealthy District not far from there. In terms of actual upbringing, she's much closer to a Romney or wealthy establishment type then she is a Joe plumber.

That's not to say she isn't capable. I'm just simply pointing out that her image as she sells it doesn't match her profile.

Edit: this whole rent thing is actually a great example. She can of course afford an apartment. However, she wants to play up the image of someone struggling to pay their bills, so she pushes this story.


However, I'd like to point out that Trump did the exact same thing, less successfully, and the people criticizing her were once vocal proponents of him, so it comes off as incredibly hypocritical.


That is a completely fair point. The problem comes if you're trying to claim that you're better than him. It's difficult to maintain the high ground when you're using his playbook, and ultimately Cortez would be worse off if the general perception of her was that she was just another Trump.

So yes, people criticizing her that praise Trump for this specific issue are being hypocritical, but only because she is being just as hypocritical over the exact same issue.
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Damn_Underscore
11/09/18 7:23:21 PM
#14:


Also the Donald Trump comparison is interesting because he acted like he was a man of the people, but after he got elected besides repealing the TPP that pretty much turned out to be a lie.
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Dash_Harber
11/09/18 7:25:08 PM
#15:


s0nicfan posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
s0nicfan posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one

She's never had a job?


The district she won is a working-class one, and she sold herself as an "everyman" fighting for their interests. What gets lost in the noise is that while she was born there, she spent most of her life growing up and living in an extremely wealthy District not far from there. In terms of actual upbringing, she's much closer to a Romney or wealthy establishment type then she is a Joe plumber.

That's not to say she isn't capable. I'm just simply pointing out that her image as she sells it doesn't match her profile.

Edit: this whole rent thing is actually a great example. She can of course afford an apartment. However, she wants to play up the image of someone struggling to pay their bills, so she pushes this story.


However, I'd like to point out that Trump did the exact same thing, less successfully, and the people criticizing her were once vocal proponents of him, so it comes off as incredibly hypocritical.


That is a completely fair point. The problem comes if you're trying to claim that you're better than him. It's difficult to maintain the high ground when you're using his playbook, and ultimately Cortez would be worse off if the general perception of her was that she was just another Trump.

So yes, people criticizing her that praise Trump for this specific issue are being hypocritical, but only because she is being just as hypocritical over the exact same issue.


Maybe, I'd definitely have to see some evidence for her situation other than that, whereas Trump has been on record bragging about his fortune several times, so it's still a different situation. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of them saying she did it, and ignoring that Trump blatantly did.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/09/18 7:28:43 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
s0nicfan posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one

She's never had a job?


The district she won is a working-class one, and she sold herself as an "everyman" fighting for their interests. What gets lost in the noise is that while she was born there, she spent most of her life growing up and living in an extremely wealthy District not far from there. In terms of actual upbringing, she's much closer to a Romney or wealthy establishment type then she is a Joe plumber.

That's not to say she isn't capable. I'm just simply pointing out that her image as she sells it doesn't match her profile.

Edit: this whole rent thing is actually a great example. She can of course afford an apartment. However, she wants to play up the image of someone struggling to pay their bills, so she pushes this story.


However, I'd like to point out that Trump did the exact same thing, less successfully, and the people criticizing her were once vocal proponents of him, so it comes off as incredibly hypocritical.


That is a completely fair point. The problem comes if you're trying to claim that you're better than him. It's difficult to maintain the high ground when you're using his playbook, and ultimately Cortez would be worse off if the general perception of her was that she was just another Trump.

So yes, people criticizing her that praise Trump for this specific issue are being hypocritical, but only because she is being just as hypocritical over the exact same issue.

Trump was given hundreds of millions of dollars from her father

Is there any evidence at all to suggest anything even remotely similar to that happened to AOC?
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3rd_Best_Master
11/09/18 7:31:42 PM
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Professor_Kanjo posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one


she was a bartender

Despite whatever claims of her upbringing, at least she actually worked a menial job before. We're already moving further and further away from Trump the more this comparison is explored.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/09/18 7:32:34 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
Professor_Kanjo posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one


she was a bartender

Despite whatever claims of her upbringing, at least she actually worked a menial job before. We're already moving further and further away from Trump the more this comparison is explored.

The comparison to Trump didnt make any sense to begin with. Its just obvious nonsense meant to distract from her legitimate point.
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Damn_Underscore
11/09/18 7:34:03 PM
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I've worked retail before. I would not call myself working class.

She's been working in business/education/politics since 2012 (https://nydn.us/2LyUtQN).
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Dash_Harber
11/09/18 7:35:19 PM
#21:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Professor_Kanjo posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one


she was a bartender

Despite whatever claims of her upbringing, at least she actually worked a menial job before. We're already moving further and further away from Trump the more this comparison is explored.

The comparison to Trump didnt make any sense to begin with. Its just obvious nonsense meant to distract from her legitimate point.

I was actually just pointing out that Fox is hypocritical for calling bullshit on her while being partially responsible for selling Donald Trumps ridiculous working class persona.

Regardless, I don't know enough about her to see either way, but I like how she handled it.
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TroutPaste
11/09/18 7:36:09 PM
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They make it seem like she's always been a homeless leftist. She's just between jobs for 3 months lol
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emblem boy
11/09/18 7:36:26 PM
#23:


s0nicfan posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one

She's never had a job?


The district she won is a working-class one, and she sold herself as an "everyman" fighting for their interests. What gets lost in the noise is that while she was born there, she spent most of her life growing up and living in an extremely wealthy District not far from there. In terms of actual upbringing, she's much closer to a Romney or wealthy establishment type then she is a Joe plumber.

That's not to say she isn't capable. I'm just simply pointing out that her image as she sells it doesn't match her profile.

Edit: this whole rent thing is actually a great example. She can of course afford an apartment. However, she wants to play up the image of someone struggling to pay their bills, so she pushes this story.


While the part about her not living most of her younger life in the Bronx, what makes you say she's closer to a Romney lifestyle...
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King_Hellebuyck
11/09/18 7:39:08 PM
#24:


Dash_Harber posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Professor_Kanjo posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one


she was a bartender

Despite whatever claims of her upbringing, at least she actually worked a menial job before. We're already moving further and further away from Trump the more this comparison is explored.

The comparison to Trump didnt make any sense to begin with. Its just obvious nonsense meant to distract from her legitimate point.

I was actually just pointing out that Fox is hypocritical for calling bullshit on her while being partially responsible for selling Donald Trumps ridiculous working class persona.

Regardless, I don't know enough about her to see either way, but I like how she handled it.

Oh I feel ya, didnt mean to detract from what you were saying. Just trying to point out how disengenous it was for anyone to even compare their financial upbringings.
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s0nicfan
11/09/18 7:39:33 PM
#25:


emblem boy posted...
s0nicfan posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
>ocasio cortez
>working class

pick one

She's never had a job?


The district she won is a working-class one, and she sold herself as an "everyman" fighting for their interests. What gets lost in the noise is that while she was born there, she spent most of her life growing up and living in an extremely wealthy District not far from there. In terms of actual upbringing, she's much closer to a Romney or wealthy establishment type then she is a Joe plumber.

That's not to say she isn't capable. I'm just simply pointing out that her image as she sells it doesn't match her profile.

Edit: this whole rent thing is actually a great example. She can of course afford an apartment. However, she wants to play up the image of someone struggling to pay their bills, so she pushes this story.


While the part about her not living most of her younger life in the Bronx, what makes you say she's closer to a Romney lifestyle...


In terms of upbringing, not so much her current lifestyle. Romney is a special kind of out of touch.

Also, she owns a publishing company (unless it's gone under). She can afford rent.
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Damn_Underscore
11/09/18 7:40:21 PM
#26:


Fox News is being hypocritical, but they aren't wrong.

She is wrong for saying making fun of her = insulting the working class. That is just BS to make her supporters happy, but I guess it worked.
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s0nicfan
11/09/18 7:42:41 PM
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Professor_Kanjo posted...
Did they even really make fun of her? It looked more like the panel was agreeing with how expensive DC was.


From the article:
Anchor Ed Henry claimed that the designer clothes Ocasio-Cortez wore during photoshoots following her primary victory could have been spent on living expenses.

She had these multithousand-dollar outfits that could pay a months rent in Washington D.C., he said.


She claims they were borrowed.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/09/18 7:43:36 PM
#29:


Damn_Underscore posted...
Fox News is being hypocritical, but they aren't wrong.

She is wrong for saying making fun of her = insulting the working class. That is just BS to make her supporters happy, but I guess it worked.

No theyre blatantly wrong for pretending that she paid thousands for dresses that could have gone towards rent
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3rd_Best_Master
11/09/18 7:45:20 PM
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Professor_Kanjo posted...
Did they even really make fun of her? It looked more like the panel was agreeing with how expensive DC was.

*actually watches the clip*

Well I'll be.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/09/18 7:46:52 PM
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Professor_Kanjo posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Professor_Kanjo posted...
Did they even really make fun of her? It looked more like the panel was agreeing with how expensive DC was.


From the article:
Anchor Ed Henry claimed that the designer clothes Ocasio-Cortez wore during photoshoots following her primary victory could have been spent on living expenses.

She had these multithousand-dollar outfits that could pay a months rent in Washington D.C., he said.


She claims they were borrowed.


Yeah that comment may have been ignorant but it was a fair point to make not knowing the circumstances.

Theyve been saying this about her for months and shes continually corrected them. Same thing with the pronunciation of her name.
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The Great Muta 22
11/09/18 7:50:18 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
She claims they were borrowed.


What makes you think clothes for a photo shoot aren't borrowed?
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s0nicfan
11/09/18 7:57:44 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
She claims they were borrowed.


What makes you think clothes for a photo shoot aren't borrowed?


I'm not saying they weren't? I could have just left the quote hanging by itself, instead of following up with her defense against it. Would you have preferred that?
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