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Rob Cesternino
11/08/18 3:39:03 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6366501/Gunman-shoots-dozens-victims-including-police-officer-opens-fire-California-bar.html

A gunman has opened fire at a bar in the city of Thousand Oaks, California, injuring multiple people.

Witnesses said there were 'dozens' of victims including a police officer after the shooter stormed in armed with guns and smoke grenades.

The shooter is thought to still be at large after opening fire at the Borderline Bar and Grill.

A Ventura County Sheriff's Office official said approximately 30 shots had been fired inside the building.

People are said to be hiding from the shooter in bathrooms and attic spaces, while others who managed to escape fled to nearby gas stations for medical help, reports claim.

It's thought that a man opened fire at the bar with a semi-automatic gun at about 11.20pm.

A witness told ABC7: I was at the front door talking to my stepdad. I heard these big pops.

'There were three or four and I hit the ground. The security guard was dead and the man had a handgun.

'He threw in smoke bombs and he kept firing. People threw chairs out of the windows to try to get away.

'The gunman had glasses and a black jacket. He had a big hand gun.

Another witness said: 'This maniac came in. Threw in smoke to confuse people and opened fire on the dancefloor. Hes taken many young lives.

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Scorsese2002
11/08/18 3:44:18 AM
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Inb4 gun debate
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FreedomEtrtment
11/08/18 3:46:53 AM
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What's with the quotation marks
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Crazyman93
11/08/18 3:50:07 AM
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FreedomEtrtment posted...
What's with the quotation marks

Because "dozens" is an inexact figure and is likely conjured by the media, and subject to change as more information comes in.
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UnholyMudcrab
11/08/18 3:57:13 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
FreedomEtrtment posted...
What's with the quotation marks

Because "dozens" is an inexact figure and is likely conjured by the media, and subject to change as more information comes in.

Given that the source is the Dailymail, I'm not putting a whole lot of faith in that claim. A police officer on the scene said that there were about half a dozen injuries.
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SodomInsane
11/08/18 4:01:27 AM
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Scorsese2002 posted...
Inb4 gun debate


If no one dies other than the shooter that might result in not much debate.
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CelestialVoices
11/08/18 4:01:57 AM
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Borderline is a country music bar that hosts live music events.

Tonight's event was aimed at college students, according to the bars website and Instagram page.

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Crazyman93
11/08/18 4:10:39 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Crazyman93 posted...
FreedomEtrtment posted...
What's with the quotation marks

Because "dozens" is an inexact figure and is likely conjured by the media, and subject to change as more information comes in.

Given that the source is the Dailymail, I'm not putting a whole lot of faith in that claim. A police officer on the scene said that there were about half a dozen injuries.

RT is also saying dozens but they also don't quote a source. Honestly, it's PROBABLY just a ploy for views by making it sound worse than it ended up already being.
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Looked gf
11/08/18 4:13:37 AM
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Not even news at this point
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UnholyMudcrab
11/08/18 4:25:44 AM
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Old NoiseTank
11/08/18 5:23:45 AM
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sigh I know people from TO. :(
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Sada_Pop
11/08/18 5:38:42 AM
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I don't think the number of confirmed as 11 actually dead as of this moment. Just speaking of 11 victims.
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GoriIIa
11/08/18 6:01:15 AM
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12 confirmed dead.
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GoriIIa
11/08/18 6:03:32 AM
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Sada_Pop posted...
I don't think the number of confirmed as 11 actually dead as of this moment. Just speaking of 11 victims.


Just heard its 11 dead, 12 including shooter. 10-12 more injured.
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Sada_Pop
11/08/18 6:04:25 AM
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Yep. Confirmed.

My news feed must have been playing it cautious until the Sheriff started his press conference.
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pres_madagascar
11/08/18 6:07:52 AM
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Sada_Pop posted...
Yep. Confirmed.

My news feed must have been playing it cautious until the Sheriff started his press conference.

As they should.
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Tyranthraxus
11/08/18 6:39:39 AM
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GoriIIa posted...
Sada_Pop posted...
I don't think the number of confirmed as 11 actually dead as of this moment. Just speaking of 11 victims.


Just heard its 11 dead, 12 including shooter. 10-12 more injured.

I guess that is technically dozens
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JlM
11/08/18 8:12:41 AM
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Some witnesses said the bar is a hub for country music fans. Many of the attendees Wednesday night normally attended the Stage Coach country music festival in California and, tragically, some were survivors of the massacre at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas that left 58 dead last year.

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A_Good_Boy
11/08/18 8:15:09 AM
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JlM posted...

Some witnesses said the bar is a hub for country music fans. Many of the attendees Wednesday night normally attended the Stage Coach country music festival in California and, tragically, some were survivors of the massacre at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas that left 58 dead last year.

Wtf
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Tmaster148
11/08/18 8:17:06 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
JlM posted...

Some witnesses said the bar is a hub for country music fans. Many of the attendees Wednesday night normally attended the Stage Coach country music festival in California and, tragically, some were survivors of the massacre at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas that left 58 dead last year.

Wtf


When you have as many shooting incidents as the US does. There's going to be a good chance people experience more than 1 shooting in their life.
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Veggeta X
11/08/18 8:17:51 AM
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Saw a Trump supporter on my FB says "Go on Dems blame this on Trump some how I am waiting".
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Solar_Crimson
11/08/18 8:27:38 AM
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JlM posted...

Some witnesses said the bar is a hub for country music fans. Many of the attendees Wednesday night normally attended the Stage Coach country music festival in California and, tragically, some were survivors of the massacre at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas that left 58 dead last year.

Holy fuck
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11/08/18 8:27:49 AM
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Orthopox12
11/08/18 8:34:18 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
JlM posted...

Some witnesses said the bar is a hub for country music fans. Many of the attendees Wednesday night normally attended the Stage Coach country music festival in California and, tragically, some were survivors of the massacre at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas that left 58 dead last year.

Wtf


When you have as many shooting incidents as the US does. There's going to be a good chance people experience more than 1 shooting in their life.

I remember one of the girls killed in Aurora had survived a food court shooting, I also think I read at least one Columbine survivor was present.
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RebelElite791
11/08/18 8:34:28 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
FreedomEtrtment posted...
What's with the quotation marks

Because "dozens" is an inexact figure and is likely conjured by the media, and subject to change as more information comes in.

Fuck off
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pres_madagascar
11/08/18 8:49:11 AM
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Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.
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pres_madagascar
11/08/18 8:51:20 AM
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Orthopox12 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
JlM posted...

Some witnesses said the bar is a hub for country music fans. Many of the attendees Wednesday night normally attended the Stage Coach country music festival in California and, tragically, some were survivors of the massacre at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas that left 58 dead last year.

Wtf


When you have as many shooting incidents as the US does. There's going to be a good chance people experience more than 1 shooting in their life.

I remember one of the girls killed in Aurora had survived a food court shooting, I also think I read at least one Columbine survivor was present.

A woman I work with was recently killed in a brutal drunk driving accident. She turned her car at the last second so the drunk driver hit her side instead of her son's side.

She died, he son lived but broke nearly every bone in his body.

The son was in a serious accident a year prior that left pins in both legs.

If I were her son, I'd never set foot into a car again.
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RebelElite791
11/08/18 9:12:09 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.

Lots of people who dont care about shootings will suddenly care if true
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Orthopox12
11/08/18 9:20:07 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Orthopox12 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
JlM posted...

Some witnesses said the bar is a hub for country music fans. Many of the attendees Wednesday night normally attended the Stage Coach country music festival in California and, tragically, some were survivors of the massacre at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas that left 58 dead last year.

Wtf


When you have as many shooting incidents as the US does. There's going to be a good chance people experience more than 1 shooting in their life.

I remember one of the girls killed in Aurora had survived a food court shooting, I also think I read at least one Columbine survivor was present.

A woman I work with was recently killed in a brutal drunk driving accident. She turned her car at the last second so the drunk driver hit her side instead of her son's side.

She died, he son lived but broke nearly every bone in his body.

The son was in a serious accident a year prior that left pins in both legs.

If I were her son, I'd never set foot into a car again.

Thats depressing, hope the kid heals as best he can physically and mentally.
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littlebro07
11/08/18 9:23:07 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.


And here...we....go.
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pres_madagascar
11/08/18 9:24:31 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.


And here...we....go.

Yep.
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CruelBuffalo
11/08/18 9:26:20 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.


And here...we....go.


Not to make you prematurely blow your loads but..

New info from @astoneabcnews on the mass shooting suspect in Southern California.
Law enforcement say the shooter is a white man in his late 20s who lived in the area. The weapon was a 45 caliber Glock and was legally obtained.

https://twitter.com/mattkellerabc7/status/1060528029485518848?s=21
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pres_madagascar
11/08/18 9:28:07 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
littlebro07 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.


And here...we....go.


Not to make you prematurely blow your loads but..

New info from @astoneabcnews on the mass shooting suspect in Southern California.
Law enforcement say the shooter is a white man in his late 20s who lived in the area. The weapon was a 45 caliber Glock and was legally obtained.

https://twitter.com/mattkellerabc7/status/1060528029485518848?s=21

Awesome thanks. Wonder why some people in the bar were saying middle eastern dude with a beard.
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Thatuser
11/08/18 9:28:20 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
When you have as many shooting incidents as the US does. There's going to be a good chance people experience more than 1 shooting in their life.

Is this a serious claim?
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CruelBuffalo
11/08/18 9:29:15 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
littlebro07 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.


And here...we....go.


Not to make you prematurely blow your loads but..

New info from @astoneabcnews on the mass shooting suspect in Southern California.
Law enforcement say the shooter is a white man in his late 20s who lived in the area. The weapon was a 45 caliber Glock and was legally obtained.

https://twitter.com/mattkellerabc7/status/1060528029485518848?s=21

Awesome thanks. Wonder why some people in the bar were saying middle eastern dude with a beard.


Why do you care so much about the race....its really weird.

More important is the actual motive...
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Tmaster148
11/08/18 9:29:54 AM
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Thatuser posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
When you have as many shooting incidents as the US does. There's going to be a good chance people experience more than 1 shooting in their life.

Is this a serious claim?


That the US has a lot of shootings? Not sure what you are surprised about.
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Thatuser
11/08/18 9:30:18 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
When you have as many shooting incidents as the US does. There's going to be a good chance people experience more than 1 shooting in their life.

Is this a serious claim?


That the US has a lot of shootings? Not sure what you are surprised about.

No, the latter part.

Frankly, "a lot" is very subjective as well.
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ehhwhatever
11/08/18 9:31:08 AM
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absurd sadism
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FrisbeeDude
11/08/18 9:31:24 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.


so you're fucking trolling. neat.
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pres_madagascar
11/08/18 9:32:32 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
littlebro07 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.


And here...we....go.


Not to make you prematurely blow your loads but..

New info from @astoneabcnews on the mass shooting suspect in Southern California.
Law enforcement say the shooter is a white man in his late 20s who lived in the area. The weapon was a 45 caliber Glock and was legally obtained.

https://twitter.com/mattkellerabc7/status/1060528029485518848?s=21

Awesome thanks. Wonder why some people in the bar were saying middle eastern dude with a beard.


Why do you care so much about the race....its really weird.

More important is the actual motive...

Because identity politics is literally how we govern our country now. On both sides. It's important to know these things because if it's a white guy, reactions go one way. If its a muslim guy, it goes a whole different route, and so on.
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pres_madagascar
11/08/18 9:33:15 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.


so you're fucking trolling. neat.

Yeah no. Literally what early eyewitness reports were saying on reddit.

A) I don't troll when people have died. That's low.
B) when I do troll, it's glorified shit posting about videogames and shit.
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Tmaster148
11/08/18 9:34:04 AM
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Thatuser posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
When you have as many shooting incidents as the US does. There's going to be a good chance people experience more than 1 shooting in their life.

Is this a serious claim?


That the US has a lot of shootings? Not sure what you are surprised about.

No, the latter part.


I mean I don't think it's going to be that common but I'm not going to be surprised that there are shooting survivors who experience multiple shootings either.
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Thatuser
11/08/18 9:36:28 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
When you have as many shooting incidents as the US does. There's going to be a good chance people experience more than 1 shooting in their life.

Is this a serious claim?


That the US has a lot of shootings? Not sure what you are surprised about.

No, the latter part.


I mean I don't think it's going to be that common but I'm not going to be surprised that there are shooting survivors who experience multiple shootings either.

If you live in the south or west side of Chicago you may see this every other day. But those don't make headlines.

My point is I feel you're cherry picking and being disingenuous. You even backpedalled on your own.
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1NfamousACE_2
11/08/18 9:37:22 AM
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There was a bouncer at the door who was shot first.

Now what excuse will people use for metal detectors at schools?
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Thatuser
11/08/18 9:38:23 AM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
There was a bouncer at the door who was shot first.

Now what excuse will people use for metal detectors at schools?

Bouncers don't stop and frisk.
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spudger
11/08/18 9:38:52 AM
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Thats 39 mins from me :(
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Tmaster148
11/08/18 9:39:53 AM
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Thatuser posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Thatuser posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
When you have as many shooting incidents as the US does. There's going to be a good chance people experience more than 1 shooting in their life.

Is this a serious claim?


That the US has a lot of shootings? Not sure what you are surprised about.

No, the latter part.


I mean I don't think it's going to be that common but I'm not going to be surprised that there are shooting survivors who experience multiple shootings either.

If you live in the south or west side of Chicago you may see this every other day. But those don't make headlines.

My point is I feel you're cherry picking and being disingenuous. You even backpedalled on your own.


I don't think you understand what hyperboles are. But also what am I cherrypicking? It's not like I posted any sort of data to prove my point.

Seems like a weird thing to get upset over.
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eston
11/08/18 9:40:18 AM
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I remember reading not too long ago about some kids who were at the Parkland shooting, moved to a new school, and there was a shooting there too
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BruceWayneJr
11/08/18 9:40:21 AM
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Well, now I know where not to go when a news story breaks. Too many jerkoffs on CE.
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glitteringfairy
11/08/18 9:42:10 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
littlebro07 posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Well, description of the shooter was a tall middle eastern man with a beard.

Oh boy.


And here...we....go.


Not to make you prematurely blow your loads but..

New info from @astoneabcnews on the mass shooting suspect in Southern California.
Law enforcement say the shooter is a white man in his late 20s who lived in the area. The weapon was a 45 caliber Glock and was legally obtained.

https://twitter.com/mattkellerabc7/status/1060528029485518848?s=21

Awesome thanks. Wonder why some people in the bar were saying middle eastern dude with a beard.

Could you be anymore obvious. You almost sound rejuvenated
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