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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 7:30:28 AM
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like there is literally no reason to shit on other women just to impress men

makes me sad that so many women have turned their back on feminism and supporting each other as women and understanding the struggle - forgetting that it is why we (at least in western societies) even have the rights and privileges we do currently.
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 7:31:07 AM
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Also, is so rampant* Its 630 AM and I apparently cant use the conventions of standard English this early
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DarkTransient
11/07/18 7:31:10 AM
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Don't conflate historical feminism with present-day feminism. They're two entirely different things, the latter simply appropriating the name of the former.

Also, I think you'll find most men don't find it particularly appealing to watch a woman take a shit on another woman. I mean, I'm sure there are some out there who do, but I doubt it's a very common fetish.
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CyricZ
11/07/18 7:32:12 AM
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At the end of the day, those women got theirs, so fuck everyone else. Do they have a rich husband, a nice house, a few kids popped out? Then they're done.
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Genocet_10-325
11/07/18 7:33:14 AM
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Its probably the reason so many women still support Trump tbh
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 7:34:22 AM
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CyricZ posted...
At the end of the day, those women got theirs, so fuck everyone else. Do they have a rich husband, a nice house, a few kids popped out? Then they're done.


Exactly! But its even the ones that dont that surprise me!!! Like what the hell do you get out of defending garbage ass men that arent even doing anything for you besides consuming oxygen in your vicinity? A house plant would prove more useful in some cases.
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glitteringfairy
11/07/18 7:36:39 AM
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Lol what is this horse shit
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CyricZ
11/07/18 7:38:35 AM
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I feel that's a matter of desperately trying to find social victories wherever you can to avoid appearing a failure. Like "Hey, at least I got a man" is more of a victory rather than the alternative of being single and picky.

I sometimes wonder which is more sad: men who will stick their thing in anything with a pulse, or women who will take anything with a pulse rather than being alone.
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DarkTransient
11/07/18 7:40:03 AM
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CyricZ posted...
I sometimes wonder which is more sad: men who will stick their thing in anything with a pulse, or women who will take anything with a pulse rather than being alone.


The latter, although let's not pretend that either of those is exclusive to one gender. But at least the former is just about wanting a fuck, and it's quite possible they lead perfectly happy lives outside of enjoying casual sex (and having low standards).
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CyricZ
11/07/18 7:41:52 AM
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DarkTransient posted...
But at least the former is just about wanting a fuck

I mean, opinions are opinions, but you don't find this more sad? Someone who will distill a living breathing thinking human being to nothing more than a receptacle for their own physical pleasure?

There's arguments to be made both ways.

That said, you are right on the other count of both genders being guilty of either. If you prefer, we can focus on the acts themselves rather than the genders most commonly associated with them. It also accounts for those who don't fall under heteronormativity.
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Caution999
11/07/18 7:45:53 AM
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Women have achieved equality in the States. Yeah, youre still gonna encounter some sexist men, but society has fully embraced women as equals.

You should focus on women who are still under Sharia Law tbh
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CyricZ
11/07/18 7:48:03 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Women have achieved equality in the States.

Last night Alabama and West Virginia passed provisions in their State Constitution that would allow them to easily make abortions illegal if Roe v. Wade were overturned.
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awesome999
11/07/18 7:50:07 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Lol what is this horse shit

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Genocet_10-325
11/07/18 7:52:01 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Caution999 posted...
Women have achieved equality in the States.

Last night Alabama and West Virginia passed provisions in their State Constitution that would allow them to easily make abortions illegal if Roe v. Wade were overturned.

Damn, thank god i live in a blue state and not the third world
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DanHarenChamp
11/07/18 7:52:03 AM
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CE's view of feminism is absolutely comical. Just exposes you guys for being internet dwelling neckbeards.
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Caution999
11/07/18 7:52:57 AM
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Abortion is a sensitive and tricky subject, lets not deny that.

Theres something inherently wrong with people that use abortion as their first form of birth control. And whom have had several abortions.

Should be a one or 2 time thing as a last resort.

Roe vs Wade wont be overturned. Its political suicide imo
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Genocet_10-325
11/07/18 7:53:25 AM
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DanHarenChamp posted...
CE's view of feminism is absolutely comical. Just exposes you guys for being internet dwelling neckbeards.

QFT. This place teeters the line between comically pathetic and depressingly pathetic.
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 8:20:13 AM
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Pretty much.
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/07/18 8:21:10 AM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
DanHarenChamp posted...
CE's view of feminism is absolutely comical. Just exposes you guys for being internet dwelling neckbeards.

QFT. This place teeters the line between comically pathetic and depressingly pathetic.


I spend a lot of time poking fun of people for using terms they don't understand.

they're usually misplaced buzzwords.
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Darkman124
11/07/18 8:27:44 AM
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_Lyonidias posted...
just to impress men


it isnt just to impress men, to be clear

it's to gain power in a world where doing that gains them power

that includes power granted by other women who do it too
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MarqueeSeries
11/07/18 8:54:59 AM
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People will often act in their own self interest, and women are people too

Not everyone thinks about what's best for the group as a whole
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 11:27:17 AM
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Well yeah, plus it IS a power thing- the point is that women dont have the societal pull that men do.

Hence, power is gained through infighting because men are seen as a source of power socially because they are culturally assigned that value.

Men dont do the same towards women, as women do not have as much perceived power and pull by society.
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prince_leo
11/07/18 11:28:19 AM
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Caution999 posted...
Theres something inherently wrong with people that use abortion as their first form of birth control.

that they're not real
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Vyrulisse
11/07/18 5:08:52 PM
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Practice what you preach. "Supporting Women" just because they're women is foolish and shortsighted, it's not "internalized mysogyny".
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VandorLee
11/07/18 5:10:34 PM
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_Lyonidias posted...
like there is literally no reason to shit on other women just to impress men


Its not for them. It gets me off.
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 5:14:29 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Practice what you preach. "Supporting Women" just because they're women is foolish and shortsighted, it's not "internalized mysogyny".


I dont support shitty women or anyone regardless of gender , but there is no need to be catty tbqh I cant control what other people do tho

Women shouldnt be so quick to dismiss and shit on each other all the damn time is my point. Especially for the sake of male approval. Quite disgusting
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 5:17:34 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Just look at how many white women in Texas voted for Ted Cruz.


Oh yeah

That and female trump supporters lmao
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Vyrulisse
11/07/18 5:20:22 PM
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_Lyonidias posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Practice what you preach. "Supporting Women" just because they're women is foolish and shortsighted, it's not "internalized mysogyny".


I dont support shitty women or anyone regardless of gender , but there is no need to be catty tbqh I cant control what other people do tho

Women shouldnt be so quick to dismiss and shit on each other all the damn time is my point. Especially for the sake of male approval. Quite disgusting

People are people and are gonna do people things. Some people seek approval of others, some don't. there's really nothing to be done about it and it will never change unless humans evolve into some sort of hive mind.
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 5:22:06 PM
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As darkman was saying its about power.

Women need to be on par with men in holding said power. Its at an institutional, not individual level.
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Vyrulisse
11/07/18 5:24:45 PM
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_Lyonidias posted...
As darkman was saying its about power.

Women need to be on par with men in holding said power. Its at an institutional, not individual level.

I feel like that's an unwinnable fight. All power women hold is given to them if you think about it... even the stuff that feels "earned", there's always some man around feeling real good about himself over "helping" out.

Maybe I'm just tired and fatalist when it comes to such things. Screaming into the void will get handouts but it's smoke and mirrors
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 5:25:45 PM
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*shrug* Like I said I cant control what anyone else thinks, all I can do is preach and be an activist.

Arguably the power men have is given, not earned as well. Should no one have any inherent pull in society? I think thats overstepping it a bit and reaching towards nihilism.
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Joelypoely
11/07/18 5:26:07 PM
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I don't think I could ever keep a straight face when reading the term 'internalized misogyny'. It sounds like it comes from the Gender Studies 101 handbook.
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DonaldClinton
11/07/18 5:27:09 PM
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_Lyonidias posted...
like there is literally no reason to shit on other women just to impress men

makes me sad that so many women have turned their back on feminism and supporting each other as women and understanding the struggle - forgetting that it is why we (at least in western societies) even have the rights and privileges we do currently.

You sound like a cuck
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 5:27:38 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Practice what you preach. "Supporting Women" just because they're women is foolish and shortsighted, it's not "internalized mysogyny".


True true. Supporting Coffeebeanz just because she's a female when she was clearly in the wrong and then blew up does no one any favors. Nor does it speak well of feminism if we're going to use gender as a get out of jail free card for bad behavior. That shouldn't be what it's about.


I believe she was misunderstood, so I defended her. It sucks to be on the receiving end of that bullshit.
I dont agree with many of her opinions.
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Banana_Cyanide
11/07/18 5:27:39 PM
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"Women are not allowed to make their own choices unless they are choices I approve of."
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Lost_All_Senses
11/07/18 5:28:36 PM
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Is being a feminist or a misogynist my only 2 options? Id prefer to respect women but keep being a man.
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/07/18 5:32:28 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Is being a feminist or a misogynist my only 2 options?


yes.

more options are for free thinking countries.
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 5:33:39 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Is being a feminist or a misogynist my only 2 options? Id prefer to respect women but keep being a man.


I mean being a feminist doesnt make you less of a man but you do you
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literally52
11/07/18 5:34:00 PM
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_Lyonidias posted...
like there is literally no reason to shit on other women just to impress men

like you do with the girls on here
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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 5:38:49 PM
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literally52 posted...
_Lyonidias posted...
like there is literally no reason to shit on other women just to impress men

like you do with the girls on here


Oh yes not liking one woman here means I hate every female poster here. Totes dude
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Vyrulisse
11/07/18 5:40:41 PM
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I don't think she treats all women here like that. Like Jo and I can argue a lot but I don't hate her or anything and I like to think she's the same way for example

You can argue with people you like sometimes I think
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Lost_All_Senses
11/07/18 5:43:15 PM
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_Lyonidias posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Is being a feminist or a misogynist my only 2 options? Id prefer to respect women but keep being a man.


I mean being a feminist doesnt make you less of a man but you do you


You're right. Im probably thinking extreme feminism where they just want men to do nothing while the women does everything. I want to do stuff like hold open doors, pay for dinner more times than not, attempt to defend the woman if she's approached etc. I just don't want my manhood constantly being tested everytime I want to take lead on something >_>. Im cool with equal on most shit and Im realizing you stated that in the beginning at this moment
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clearaflagrantj
11/07/18 5:45:56 PM
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Hello

I am a man

This topic looks like a whole bunch of whining to me
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Oldin
11/07/18 5:51:44 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I don't think she treats all women here like that. Like Jo and I can argue a lot but I don't hate her or anything and I like to think she's the same way for example

You can argue with people you like sometimes I think

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_Lyonidias
11/07/18 9:50:10 PM
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Lol
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