Current Events > I hate to say it, but Blizzard is probably the worst modern dev right now

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ALLCAPSNOSPACES
11/02/18 8:08:09 PM
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WoW keeps rollercoasting between good and shitty expanions
Overwatch is stale
Diablo is dead, they practically gave the ARPG market to Path of Exile today (which is proof that a small indie company like Blizzard can't compete with a AAA studio like Grinding Gear Games)
HotS is on life support
Starcraft 2, can't comment

The fact that their new Diablo game is a fucking reskin of a Chinese p2w ARPG is insulting.

What happened to the Blizzard I used to love, that made high quality, AAA games that were the best of the genre?
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P4wn4g3
11/02/18 8:12:23 PM
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ALLCAPSNOSPACES posted...
Starcraft 2, can't comment

It's criticized as having destroyed any compelling story Starcraft had. Also apparently the P2P is unbalanced and favors Terran too much, though they do balance updates. They have Coop for what that's worth though, it's decent enough that I play it more often than most games with friends. It's just fairly samey.

ALLCAPSNOSPACES posted...
What happened to the Blizzard I used to love, that made high quality, AAA games that were the best of the genre?

WoW, which taught them they can make more money by doing much less
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WaffIeElite
11/02/18 8:14:35 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
ALLCAPSNOSPACES posted...
Starcraft 2, can't comment

It's criticized as having destroyed any compelling story Starcraft had. Also apparently the P2P is unbalanced and favors Terran too much, though they do balance updates. They have Coop for what that's worth though, it's decent enough that I play it more often than most games with friends. It's just fairly samey.

ALLCAPSNOSPACES posted...
What happened to the Blizzard I used to love, that made high quality, AAA games that were the best of the genre?

WoW, which taught them they can make more money by doing much less


It wasn't WoW, it was them getting involved with Activision. Vanilla/TBC were fucking incredible, but that Actiblizzard shit started during Wrath, which is when the game peaked then started to turn to irredeemable shit.
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PhazonReborn
11/02/18 8:15:46 PM
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Blizzard is on its last leg tbqh
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YUHH
11/02/18 8:16:27 PM
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PhazonReborn posted...
Blizzard is on its last leg tbqh

I mean no, they're still rolling in money from Overwatch lootboxes and WoW lifers.

Its just the games they make are no longer enjoyable.
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Smashingpmkns
11/02/18 8:17:01 PM
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Overwatch is still awesome. The rest of the games can be dumped tbh.
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PhazonReborn
11/02/18 8:17:58 PM
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YUHH posted...
PhazonReborn posted...
Blizzard is on its last leg tbqh

I mean no, they're still rolling in money from Overwatch lootboxes and WoW lifers.

Its just the games they make are no longer enjoyable.

They will be a hollow lifeless husk clinging onto Activisions teat that will survive based on those two things until Activision brushes them off because people are tired of Overwatch.

They're basically done
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Broseph_Stalin
11/02/18 8:18:56 PM
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OW is awful. Game is run by WoW nerds who think people play multiplayer FPS games for loot.
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P4wn4g3
11/02/18 8:20:34 PM
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PhazonReborn posted...
Blizzard is on its last leg tbqh

They basically have their own Casino in the form of the esports empire they control.
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PhazonReborn
11/02/18 8:21:27 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
PhazonReborn posted...
Blizzard is on its last leg tbqh

They basically have their own Casino in the form of the esports empire they control.

Activision*

Blizzard, you know the game dev that made all those great games in the 90s? They're dead.
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Vyrulisse
11/02/18 8:22:15 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
PhazonReborn posted...
Blizzard is on its last leg tbqh

They basically have their own Casino in the form of the esports empire they control.

For now. It really doesn't take long for a developer to shit the bed and go belly up no matter how successful they seem currently.
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P4wn4g3
11/02/18 8:25:24 PM
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Dunno why people are blaming Activision. Did Wow somehow just bankrupt Blizzard? All those 50$/mo subscriptions just put them out of business?
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PhazonReborn
11/02/18 8:26:37 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Dunno why people are blaming Activision. Did Wow somehow just bankrupt Blizzard? All those 50$/mo subscriptions just put them out of business?

Once Activision bleeds consumers dry with Overwatch lootbox oversaturation, Blizzard is no longer of use to them
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P4wn4g3
11/02/18 8:28:52 PM
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PhazonReborn posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Dunno why people are blaming Activision. Did Wow somehow just bankrupt Blizzard? All those 50$/mo subscriptions just put them out of business?

Once Activision bleeds consumers dry with Overwatch lootbox oversaturation, Blizzard is no longer of use to them

That was a trend long before Overwatch.
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PhazonReborn
11/02/18 8:33:23 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
PhazonReborn posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Dunno why people are blaming Activision. Did Wow somehow just bankrupt Blizzard? All those 50$/mo subscriptions just put them out of business?

Once Activision bleeds consumers dry with Overwatch lootbox oversaturation, Blizzard is no longer of use to them

That was a trend long before Overwatch.

I know friendo
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Atralis
11/02/18 8:33:33 PM
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ALLCAPSNOSPACES posted...
Starcraft 2, can't comment

It's criticized as having destroyed any compelling story Starcraft had. Also apparently the P2P is unbalanced and favors Terran too much, though they do balance updates. They have Coop for what that's worth though, it's decent enough that I play it more often than most games with friends. It's just fairly samey.


I think SC2 being less popular online has more to do with changing tastes than anything. Mobas stole it's thunder and if Blizzard moved towards putting heroes into the multiplayer game they would get a severe backlash from the Starcraft fanbase (hell they got exactly that kind of reaction way back when Warcraft 3 had heroes).

I challenge anyone that claims Starcraft 2 has a bad campaign to make their battlenet profile public so I can actually see that they have actually completed / started it. I strongly suspect that the people whining about the campaign are trolls that never even played it.
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P4wn4g3
11/02/18 8:36:40 PM
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Atralis posted...
I challenge anyone that claims Starcraft 2 has a bad campaign to make their battlenet profile public so I can actually see that they have actually completed / started it. I strongly suspect that the people whining about the campaign are trolls that never even played it.

It's bad. My profile is probably public already unless it's hidden by default.
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nexigrams
11/02/18 8:38:51 PM
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Hearthstone is god awful, they insist on adding more and more RNG elements to the point where many feel like it is a coin-flipping simulator. Almost no action you take affects the outcome of the game. As someone who hit legend every single month since release, I haven't played beyond getting my cardback for the last 5 months.
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YUHH
11/02/18 8:43:57 PM
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The line for the new Diablo game at Bliozzcon:

https://imgur.com/a/02F13bm
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Reis
11/02/18 8:44:33 PM
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looks kinda like the mvci tournout
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Atralis
11/02/18 8:45:30 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Atralis posted...
I challenge anyone that claims Starcraft 2 has a bad campaign to make their battlenet profile public so I can actually see that they have actually completed / started it. I strongly suspect that the people whining about the campaign are trolls that never even played it.

It's bad. My profile is probably public already unless it's hidden by default.


What is your bnet name.
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HiddenLurker
11/02/18 8:46:35 PM
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Hearthstone still makes them mad money. Cause every new expansion + ban means only the top 1000 or so legend players never have to spend money to stay there while the rest gotta blow $50 bucks on blind draws to hopefully get something that works with the meta.
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PogonaVitticeps
11/02/18 8:47:17 PM
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The past 8 years.

Starcraft 2 + expansions.
Heroes of the Storm.
Hearthstone.
Diablo 3 + expansions.
More WoW expansions.

I might be missing something but, where is the problem so far?

I have enjoyed all of the above to some extent for the most part, btw.
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LookANinja
11/02/18 8:49:25 PM
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I lol'd when Hearthstone wasn't even mentioned in the OP. That game is seriously dead. I've never seen so many streamers just stop playing so quickly after a new expansion popped out. Everyone is saying the meta is stale, and now with other card games out or coming out, i think Hearthstone will finally die.
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Raikuro
11/02/18 8:50:51 PM
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Diablo would be so awesome if they finally moved away from the stale top-down view. Worked well for GTA and Fallout.
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Tyranthraxus
11/02/18 8:52:06 PM
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Raikuro posted...
Diablo would be so awesome if they finally moved away from the stale top-down view. Worked well for GTA and Fallout.

Gag puke vomit
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Atralis
11/02/18 8:58:17 PM
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PogonaVitticeps posted...
The past 8 years.

Starcraft 2 + expansions.
Heroes of the Storm.
Hearthstone.
Diablo 3 + expansions.
More WoW expansions.

I might be missing something but, where is the problem so far?

I have enjoyed all of the above to some extent for the most part, btw.


I agree with you. I feel like the hate Blizz gets is a combination of the hate for anything popular + the play it till you hate it types (Yeah Overwatch was good back when it came out but after a couple thousand hours it starts to feel TERRIBLE!)
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LordRazziel
11/02/18 9:04:47 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
PhazonReborn posted...
Blizzard is on its last leg tbqh

They basically have their own Casino in the form of the esports empire they control.

For now. It really doesn't take long for a developer to shit the bed and go belly up no matter how successful they seem currently.

Yup.

A few couple flops is all it takes.
Then stocks go down, they lose investors, and that's all, folks.
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P4wn4g3
11/02/18 10:30:35 PM
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Atralis posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Atralis posted...
I challenge anyone that claims Starcraft 2 has a bad campaign to make their battlenet profile public so I can actually see that they have actually completed / started it. I strongly suspect that the people whining about the campaign are trolls that never even played it.

It's bad. My profile is probably public already unless it's hidden by default.


What is your bnet name.

P4wn4g3#1682
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Atralis
11/03/18 12:52:04 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Atralis posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Atralis posted...
I challenge anyone that claims Starcraft 2 has a bad campaign to make their battlenet profile public so I can actually see that they have actually completed / started it. I strongly suspect that the people whining about the campaign are trolls that never even played it.

It's bad. My profile is probably public already unless it's hidden by default.


What is your bnet name.

P4wn4g3#1682


Did you really not play a single ranked match the whole time you spent with the game? I can't find you.

https://starcraft2.com/en-us/profile/1/1/1249393

This is me. I didn't do much in the game but I did beat the campaign. Just link your equivalent.
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P4wn4g3
11/03/18 1:25:25 AM
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I don't like ranked. I can't really comment on how good it is.
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LookANinja
11/03/18 1:33:32 AM
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I cheesed my way to gold in Wings of Liberty

DT rush FTW.
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