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refmon
11/01/18 9:08:36 PM
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Antifar
11/01/18 9:09:23 PM
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Because if you look at the state of things and can't pick a side, you're lacking in conviction.
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Irregardless
11/01/18 9:10:02 PM
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Extremists tend to think anyone who isn't them is the enemy.
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hollow_shrine
11/01/18 9:12:30 PM
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Antifar posted...
Because if you look at the state of things and can't pick a side, you're lacking in conviction.

Couldn't say it better myself
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catboy0_0
11/01/18 9:13:32 PM
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because they point out the hypocrisy of both sides and that angers them
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DK9292
11/01/18 9:14:00 PM
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Da fuck is a centralist?
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tremain07
11/01/18 9:14:13 PM
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Be it democrat or republican, people like those are either smug assholes who think they know better than everyone or cowards who are absolutely terrified to have any principles and ideals to stand behind.
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TiamatLover
11/01/18 9:20:53 PM
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Because people assume "centrist" means "automatically takes the middle ground on everything". It doesn't usually, just means that they're not going to pick a side to agree with everything on - in some cases that may indeed mean a middle ground, but it doesn't have to.

The perfect example - if Person A says "let's kill 1000 cats" and Person B says "let's not kill any cats", the stereotype of a centrist would say "let's kill 500 cats", while an actual centrist would most likely say "let's go with Person B's idea here, but I might agree with Person A on other issues". (Of course, this may be the other way around if the individual centrist in question is also a cat-hater, but you get the point.)
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refmon
11/01/18 10:41:49 PM
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DK9292 posted...
Da fuck is a centralist?

use brain
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Lordgold666
11/01/18 10:42:47 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
because they point out the hypocrisy of both sides and that angers them

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fus647
11/01/18 10:45:58 PM
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Methinks newt gingwitch had an involvement? It's a theory.
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Knowledge_King
11/02/18 9:44:06 AM
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Antifar posted...
Because if you look at the state of things


What state of things? Little has changed. And picking sides is always dumb. It should always be case by case.
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creativerealms
11/02/18 9:45:14 AM
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"If you are not with us you are against us" so people in the center? they are the enemy.
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Romes187
11/02/18 9:49:50 AM
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Imagine not thinking it's weird you just happen to agree with 99.999% of one sides policies.

You'd think that would cause you to step back and wonder
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VectorChaos
11/02/18 9:52:15 AM
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People are mad they've been duped into sucking one sides cock. They can't admit they've been had, so they lash out at anyone not drinking the kool aid alongside them.

You'll notice both sides react to this in the same way. It's a defense mechanism of our status quo and the division that keeps it propped up.
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DevsBro
11/02/18 9:58:13 AM
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I've never heard it was cowardly but shooting for dead center is kinda like trying to balance a pencil on its point. You're gonna be at least a little off, and it's better to just accept it than to keep trying to balance it there.
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A_Good_Boy
11/02/18 9:59:48 AM
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One side is calling for an ethnic cleansing, the other side doesn't want to be ethnically cleansed. The pragmatic centrist offers up the solution the ethnic cleanse half of the minorities, that way both sides will be pleased and the centrist gets to feel smug in that it discovered a reasonable middle ground that the two other groups refused to compromise on.
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SaithSayer
11/02/18 10:00:47 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
One side is calling for an ethnic cleansing

Yeah that sure is happening!
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ocelot51
11/02/18 10:10:45 AM
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In Dante's Inferno, those who in life were non-committal are destined in death to waste away on the shores of the Acheron at the entrance of Hell, effectively Limbo.
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Doom_Art
11/02/18 10:16:21 AM
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Side 1: "I want to cut immigration for specific groups, put through voting laws that target specific groups, and use racist dog whistle against certain groups to win over the support of people like white supremacists and freaky nationalist types"

Side 2: "I disagree with side 1 and think all people should be treated equally"

Me, an enlightened centrist: "Wow both these sides are crazy"
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Solid Sonic
11/02/18 10:17:11 AM
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Antifar posted...
Because if you look at the state of things and can't pick a side, you're lacking in conviction.

I have enough conviction to start a physical fight over my right to see both sides as having a point.
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A_Good_Boy
11/02/18 10:17:54 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
One side is calling for an ethnic cleansing

Yeah that sure is happening!

This the part where you pretend like you don't notice neo-nazis or the people being killed by them?
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SaithSayer
11/02/18 10:20:00 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
One side is calling for an ethnic cleansing

Yeah that sure is happening!

This the part where you pretend like you don't notice neo-nazis or the people being killed by them?

You said one side is doing this. Not SOME people. You're acting like an entire political alignment is doing this and trying to pretend it's the 40's again because you find it exciting.
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A_Good_Boy
11/02/18 10:20:49 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
One side is calling for an ethnic cleansing

Yeah that sure is happening!

This the part where you pretend like you don't notice neo-nazis or the people being killed by them?

You said one side is doing this. Not SOME people. You're acting like an entire political alignment is doing this and trying to pretend it's the 40's again because you find it exciting.

Both sides have neo-nazis calling for an ethnic cleansing?
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Looked gf
11/02/18 10:21:15 AM
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Lordgold666 posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
because they point out the hypocrisy of both sides and that angers them

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Hulkasaurusrex
11/02/18 10:21:33 AM
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Antifar posted...
Because if you look at the state of things and can't pick a side, you're lacking in conviction.


If you look at the state of things and take a side you are a supreme coward standing in a room full of idiots telling them your an idiot does not make you a hero.
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SaithSayer
11/02/18 10:22:40 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
One side is calling for an ethnic cleansing

Yeah that sure is happening!

This the part where you pretend like you don't notice neo-nazis or the people being killed by them?

You said one side is doing this. Not SOME people. You're acting like an entire political alignment is doing this and trying to pretend it's the 40's again because you find it exciting.

Both sides have neo-nazis calling for an ethnic cleansing?

You don't see the irony in associating the actions of a few to the whole? LOL
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Doom_Art
11/02/18 10:22:48 AM
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Hulkasaurusrex posted...
If you look at the state of things and take a side you are a supreme coward standing in a room full of idiots telling them your an idiot does not make you a hero.

what the hell are you babbling about
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spudger
11/02/18 10:24:20 AM
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Irregardless posted...
Extremists tend to think anyone who isn't them is the enemy.

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A_Good_Boy
11/02/18 10:25:20 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
One side is calling for an ethnic cleansing

Yeah that sure is happening!

This the part where you pretend like you don't notice neo-nazis or the people being killed by them?

You said one side is doing this. Not SOME people. You're acting like an entire political alignment is doing this and trying to pretend it's the 40's again because you find it exciting.

Both sides have neo-nazis calling for an ethnic cleansing?

You don't see the irony in associating the actions of a few to the whole? LOL

Go ahead and explain the issue then.
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MakoReizei
11/02/18 10:27:29 AM
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the right isn't calling for ethnic cleansing.
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SaithSayer
11/02/18 10:27:37 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
One side is calling for an ethnic cleansing

Yeah that sure is happening!

This the part where you pretend like you don't notice neo-nazis or the people being killed by them?

You said one side is doing this. Not SOME people. You're acting like an entire political alignment is doing this and trying to pretend it's the 40's again because you find it exciting.

Both sides have neo-nazis calling for an ethnic cleansing?

You don't see the irony in associating the actions of a few to the whole? LOL

Go ahead and explain the issue then.

It's moronic. Stereotyping everyone of a certain race over the actions of some is wrong. That applies to judging an entire political party based on the actions of some.

You're just arguing to be arguing, though.
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Intro2Logic
11/02/18 10:31:03 AM
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In the era of Donald Trump, the people who feel some compulsion to treat both sides as having equal merit are just being politically correct.
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A_Good_Boy
11/02/18 10:31:30 AM
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SaithSayer posted...

It's moronic. Stereotyping everyone of a certain race over the actions of some is wrong. That applies to judging an entire political party based on the actions of some.

You're just arguing to be arguing, though.

Where do you see me arguing that neo-nazis reflect a whole? Pretty sure that bit of extrapolation is all in your head. You're pretending as if neo-nazis and their violence isn't real in an attempt to counter something I never said. Wanna remind me why centralists aren't considered cowards while you're acting just as cowardly as the straw centralist I was mocking?
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CruelBuffalo
11/02/18 10:33:57 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
One side is calling for an ethnic cleansing, the other side doesn't want to be ethnically cleansed. The pragmatic centrist offers up the solution the ethnic cleanse half of the minorities, that way both sides will be pleased and the centrist gets to feel smug in that it discovered a reasonable middle ground that the two other groups refused to compromise on.

TiamatLover posted...
Because people assume "centrist" means "automatically takes the middle ground on everything". It doesn't usually, just means that they're not going to pick a side to agree with everything on - in some cases that may indeed mean a middle ground, but it doesn't have to.

The perfect example - if Person A says "let's kill 1000 cats" and Person B says "let's not kill any cats", the stereotype of a centrist would say "let's kill 500 cats", while an actual centrist would most likely say "let's go with Person B's idea here, but I might agree with Person A on other issues". (Of course, this may be the other way around if the individual centrist in question is also a cat-hater, but you get the point.)
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SaithSayer
11/02/18 10:34:57 AM
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MakoReizei posted...
the right isn't calling for ethnic cleansing.
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Hulkasaurusrex
11/02/18 10:36:11 AM
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MakoReizei posted...
the right isn't calling for ethnic cleansing.


Your right just don lemon on the left
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Esrac
11/02/18 10:41:09 AM
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DevsBro posted...
I've never heard it was cowardly but shooting for dead center is kinda like trying to balance a pencil on its point. You're gonna be at least a little off, and it's better to just accept it than to keep trying to balance it there.


I don't think anyone aims for being dead center politically. I mean, Centerist doesn't really mean you look for a middle ground on every issue.

According to that political compass test, for example, I'm an authoritarian centrist. But that isn't because I'm looking to compromise on everything, it's because I have some left leaning positions and some right leaning positions.

For example, I'm in favor of progressive tax rates, universal healthcare for citizens, increased funding for public services and infrastructure, union protections and benefits, pro-gay marriage, some firearm regulations, etc. But I'm also in favor of maintaining a strong military force, mandatory military service for all able-bodied citizens, a strong police force, strict border controls, very low immigration and refugee admittance, and the right for citizens to own and carry firearms. I also have a moderate nationalist disposition, in that I prioritize the prosperity and well being of the US and its citizens and its interests even at the expense of other nations.

And so on. I don't fall into either side because my political positions are all over the place, not because I think a middle of the road position is best.
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averagejoel
11/02/18 10:44:48 AM
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not everyone on the right is actively calling for ethnic cleansing, but almost no one on the right is actually upsit enough to do anything about it
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Romes187
11/02/18 10:45:42 AM
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Imagine being a Democrat or a Republican in 2018 lmao

Lmao

Lmfao
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Rexdragon125
11/02/18 10:51:00 AM
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/844214/neo-nazi-white-supremacist-poll-survey-Americans-USA-US-Trump-Charlottesville

Around '22 million Americans AGREE with Neo-Nazi views', shocking new poll finds

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Antifar
11/02/18 10:52:08 AM
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Romes187 posted...
Imagine being a Democrat or a Republican in 2018 lmao

Lmao

Lmfao

You don't have to be one of those to not be a centrist.
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Hulkasaurusrex
11/02/18 10:54:03 AM
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The poor vs everybody including you virtue signalling cowards
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Solid Sonic
11/02/18 10:57:48 AM
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Some people would rather spend excessive amounts of money to own EVERY console instead of just analyzing the libraries of each and being able to tell which is the most value for their money.

Lol.
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Hulkasaurusrex
11/02/18 11:00:05 AM
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Dont worry bro totally losing durr.
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SaithSayer
11/02/18 11:00:39 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Some people would rather spend excessive amounts of money to own EVERY console instead of just analyzing the libraries of each and being able to tell which is the most value for their money.

Lol.

I like how you can always sense AT LEAST A LITTLE sarcasm and cheekiness in the political debates that go on here...

But the console/pc/whatever game arguments lead to actual seething anger and there isn't the slightest hint of joking in a huge amount of the people's posts.
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Hulkasaurusrex
11/02/18 11:01:27 AM
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YookaLaylee
11/02/18 11:06:26 AM
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Lordgold666 posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
because they point out the hypocrisy of both sides and that angers them

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Raikuro
11/02/18 12:05:25 PM
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Picking a "side" has never meant agreeing with 100% of everything they stand for. It is completely possible to disagree with some aspects of your own party without being completely dismissive of it.
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