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Suchomimus
10/30/18 10:19:25 PM
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Phantom_Nook
10/30/18 11:02:22 PM
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Well, one white man radicalized to the right just shot up a synagogue.
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10/30/18 11:03:25 PM
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Jaded_Dragon
10/30/18 11:03:35 PM
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Right wing extremist terrorism kills more people than Islamic terrorism, and has for a few years. What is your issue with their statement?
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FLUFFYGERM
10/30/18 11:04:00 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Well, one white man radicalized to the right just shot up a synagogue.


Therefore all white men who are on the right are a threat to the country?

Jesus. Remember how you leftists were so careful to remind the far right not to generalize about Muslims just because of San Benardino, the nightclub shooting, etc?
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ArchNemo
10/30/18 11:04:33 PM
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
Right wing extremist terrorism kills more people than Islamic terrorism, and has for a few years. What is your issue with their statement?


[Citation needed]
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FLUFFYGERM
10/30/18 11:04:56 PM
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
Right wing extremist terrorism kills more people than Islamic terrorism, and has for a few years. What is your issue with their statement?


And if you look at the raw numbers, they're both statistically equally irrelevant / unlikely. But depending on someone's political ideology of choice they might just to emphasize one but not the other.
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dave_is_slick
10/30/18 11:05:51 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Therefore all white men who are on the right are a threat to the country?

I know you're Proudclown so this shouldn't surprise me, but you truly do lack any and all critical thinking skills.
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ZMythos
10/30/18 11:07:51 PM
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I mean right wing terrorism outweighs left wing terrorism by nearly 10 to 1.
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:08:23 PM
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Hawaiian_punch
10/30/18 11:09:16 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Well, one white man radicalized to the right just shot up a synagogue.


And another one sent pipe bombs to 12 liberals.

And another one executed black people ar a Kroger store, all in one week.

But hey, Republicans, keep worrying about TEH CARAVAN ONGOGOGOG
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NibeIungsnarf
10/30/18 11:11:23 PM
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
Right wing extremist terrorism kills more people than Islamic terrorism, and has for a few years. What is your issue with their statement?

It's only true if you ignore 9/11 and it doesnt consider per capita.
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AsAnIndependent
10/30/18 11:11:48 PM
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I'd wager not finding affordable housing and health care is a bigger threat
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Muffinz0rz
10/30/18 11:12:16 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:13:07 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Jaded_Dragon posted...
Right wing extremist terrorism kills more people than Islamic terrorism, and has for a few years. What is your issue with their statement?

It's only true if you ignore 9/11 and it doesnt consider per capita.


He said "a few years". Why would you consider something that happened almost 2 decades ago?
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0AbsoluteZero0
10/30/18 11:13:33 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Therefore all white men who are on the right are a threat to the country?

I know you're Proudclown so this shouldn't surprise me, but you truly do lack any and all critical thinking skills.

Its funny because I could see him going off the deep end one of these days. Hes already unreasonably paranoid about communism, and it conceivably could just take a little push to send him over the edge to attack some people he believes are commies.
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ArchNemo
10/30/18 11:13:39 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Jaded_Dragon posted...
Right wing extremist terrorism kills more people than Islamic terrorism, and has for a few years. What is your issue with their statement?

It's only true if you ignore 9/11 and it doesnt consider per capita.


He said "a few years". Why would you consider something that happened almost 2 decades ago?


What about the Orlando nightclub shooting
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LethalAffinity
10/30/18 11:14:11 PM
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Jaded_Dragon
10/30/18 11:15:11 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
Jaded_Dragon posted...
Right wing extremist terrorism kills more people than Islamic terrorism, and has for a few years. What is your issue with their statement?


[Citation needed]


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/12/study-shows-two-thirds-us-terrorism-tied-right-wing-extremists
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:15:18 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Jaded_Dragon posted...
Right wing extremist terrorism kills more people than Islamic terrorism, and has for a few years. What is your issue with their statement?

It's only true if you ignore 9/11 and it doesnt consider per capita.


He said "a few years". Why would you consider something that happened almost 2 decades ago?


What about the Orlando nightclub shooting


Right wing extremism has claimed more bodies even if you include that
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Irregardless
10/30/18 11:15:21 PM
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LethalAffinity posted...
Isn't Islamic terror considered "right wing"?

Yes.
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NibeIungsnarf
10/30/18 11:15:31 PM
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Well the "white rightwing terrorists kill more people than muslim terrorists" talking point has been counting from September 12th 2001 for over a decade
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FLUFFYGERM
10/30/18 11:16:59 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Jaded_Dragon posted...
Right wing extremist terrorism kills more people than Islamic terrorism, and has for a few years. What is your issue with their statement?

It's only true if you ignore 9/11 and it doesnt consider per capita.


He said "a few years". Why would you consider something that happened almost 2 decades ago?


I mean it's still relevant. It wasn't that long ago and we never recovered from the sheer carnage that caused. The world completely changed because of it, and we're still at risk of things like it.
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:17:24 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Well the "white rightwing terrorists kill more people than muslim terrorists" talking point has been counting from September 12th 2001 for over a decade


We can go back a decade if you'd like, and right wing terrorism still out numbers Muslim terrorism in this nation.

Why are you trying to downplay the actions taken by psychos and terrorists in this country?
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VTBM
10/30/18 11:17:27 PM
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FarFromFields
10/30/18 11:17:36 PM
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I would say the general state of healthcare is more concerning.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/30/18 11:19:19 PM
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FarFromFields posted...
I would say the general state of healthcare is more concerning.


Or global warming
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NibeIungsnarf
10/30/18 11:20:38 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Why are you trying to downplay the actions taken by psychos and terrorists in this country?

I just don't like dishonest talking points.

99% of the the time I talk about the rightwing on this board its with derision. Don't try to label me as a terrorist supporter just cause we disagree one time out of 50, you tribalist.
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AsAnIndependent
10/30/18 11:20:39 PM
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CNN is truly becoming the Fox of the left.
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:21:03 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
FarFromFields posted...
I would say the general state of healthcare is more concerning.


Or global warming


Isn't that fear pushed by us "dirty commies" and the people you hate?
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ultimate reaver
10/30/18 11:21:53 PM
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Its not actually funny to see how outraged the right gets at being categorized as violent and dangerous due to the roots of their ideology and rhetoric based on the actions of a few. All without a hint of irony or self awareness towards the way that theyve been treating another group for more than a decade at this point
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:22:21 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Why are you trying to downplay the actions taken by psychos and terrorists in this country?

I just don't like dishonest talking points.

99% of the the time I talk about the rightwing on this board its with derision. Don't try to label me as a terrorist supporter just cause we disagree one time out of 50, you tribalist.


It's not dishonest to say that the last few years that right wing terrorism has been the biggest threat from a terrorism aspect in this country. The data supports this.
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dave_is_slick
10/30/18 11:23:00 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Don't try to label me as a terrorist supporter

He literally didn't.
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Doom_Art
10/30/18 11:23:17 PM
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Considering most domestic terror attacks are carried out by white right-wing extremists, this isn't really inaccurate
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Jaded_Dragon
10/30/18 11:23:28 PM
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LethalAffinity posted...
Isn't Islamic terror considered "right wing"?


Eh, yeah, you do have a point there.

ArchNemo posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Jaded_Dragon posted...
Right wing extremist terrorism kills more people than Islamic terrorism, and has for a few years. What is your issue with their statement?

It's only true if you ignore 9/11 and it doesnt consider per capita.


He said "a few years". Why would you consider something that happened almost 2 decades ago?


What about the Orlando nightclub shooting


To be completely fair, they do classify the Vegas shooter as right wing since he was a Trump supporter. But politics had nothing t do with his motives by any account, so thats a bit disingenuous on the studys part.

Either way, can we just admit extremist violence is bad and can we agree its been on the rise lately and needs to be quelled?
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:24:03 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Don't try to label me as a terrorist supporter

He literally didn't.


This too. I didn't even come close to calling him that, he just read into that implication with no evidence
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ArchNemo
10/30/18 11:24:30 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Its not actually funny to see how outraged the right gets at being categorized as violent and dangerous due to the roots of their ideology and rhetoric based on the actions of a few. All without a hint of irony or self awareness towards the way that theyve been treating another group for more than a decade at this point


Or normal people who have never condemned Islam suddenly being made boogeymen after being told for "more than a decade" that generalizing people based on ideologies is wrong.

What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander evidently
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asagi_mode_gone
10/30/18 11:24:42 PM
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In other news, water is wet
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The Great Muta 22
10/30/18 11:27:00 PM
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Let's not forget that the Parkland School shooter carved Swastikas into his bullets he used and was caught on camera wearing a MAGA hat both in video where he was shooting his gun and posting on his Instagram.
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ultimate reaver
10/30/18 11:28:51 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
Its not actually funny to see how outraged the right gets at being categorized as violent and dangerous due to the roots of their ideology and rhetoric based on the actions of a few. All without a hint of irony or self awareness towards the way that theyve been treating another group for more than a decade at this point


Or normal people who have never condemned Islam suddenly being made boogeymen after being told for "more than a decade" that generalizing people based on ideologies is wrong.

What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander evidently


Yeah, go figure, there's a bunch of normal people all over the place that wouldn't dream of hurting a person or being particularly hateful about much of anything. It's kind of shocking how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot and life's hitting you that way
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ArchNemo
10/30/18 11:31:28 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
ArchNemo posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
Its not actually funny to see how outraged the right gets at being categorized as violent and dangerous due to the roots of their ideology and rhetoric based on the actions of a few. All without a hint of irony or self awareness towards the way that theyve been treating another group for more than a decade at this point


Or normal people who have never condemned Islam suddenly being made boogeymen after being told for "more than a decade" that generalizing people based on ideologies is wrong.

What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander evidently


Yeah, go figure, there's a bunch of normal people all over the place that wouldn't dream of hurting a person or being particularly hateful about much of anything. It's kind of shocking how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot and life's hitting you that way


You missed the point entirely. The same people who condemned it are now doing it to their opponents.
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ultimate reaver
10/30/18 11:37:30 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
ArchNemo posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
Its not actually funny to see how outraged the right gets at being categorized as violent and dangerous due to the roots of their ideology and rhetoric based on the actions of a few. All without a hint of irony or self awareness towards the way that theyve been treating another group for more than a decade at this point


Or normal people who have never condemned Islam suddenly being made boogeymen after being told for "more than a decade" that generalizing people based on ideologies is wrong.

What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander evidently


Yeah, go figure, there's a bunch of normal people all over the place that wouldn't dream of hurting a person or being particularly hateful about much of anything. It's kind of shocking how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot and life's hitting you that way


You missed the point entirely. The same people who condemned it are now doing it to their opponents.


No, you missed the point. The left doing something doesn't invalidate the right having been doing it for years, nor acting aghast and confused at the idea of profiling by ideology without gleaning any sort of lesson from it.

That's what makes it not funny. Nobody's learning fucking anything from this situation and they're just going "well you did it too!" like you are in your post.
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ArchNemo
10/30/18 11:40:18 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
ArchNemo posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
ArchNemo posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
Its not actually funny to see how outraged the right gets at being categorized as violent and dangerous due to the roots of their ideology and rhetoric based on the actions of a few. All without a hint of irony or self awareness towards the way that theyve been treating another group for more than a decade at this point


Or normal people who have never condemned Islam suddenly being made boogeymen after being told for "more than a decade" that generalizing people based on ideologies is wrong.

What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander evidently


Yeah, go figure, there's a bunch of normal people all over the place that wouldn't dream of hurting a person or being particularly hateful about much of anything. It's kind of shocking how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot and life's hitting you that way


You missed the point entirely. The same people who condemned it are now doing it to their opponents.


No, you missed the point. The left doing something doesn't invalidate the right having been doing it for years, nor acting aghast and confused at the idea of profiling by ideology without gleaning any sort of lesson from it.

That's what makes it not funny. Nobody's learning fucking anything from this situation and they're just going "well you did it too!" like you are in your post.


Uhh, what? I never said "you did it too" I'm pointing out that when a group goes out of their way for years to make a point about not judging people based on ideology, it's wrong to turn around and do the same thing. It helps nobody.

To be honest, you're the one who sounds like you're saying paybacks a bitch.
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Mr_Biscuit
10/30/18 11:42:00 PM
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CNN didnt say white conservative men are the biggest threat

They said radicalized white conservative men are the biggest threat

There is such a tremendous difference between the two that you have to be playing dumb not to acknowledge it
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FrisbeeDude
10/30/18 11:42:13 PM
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Biggest threat in this country is white men radicalized to the right

Show me the lie
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MARKINGRAM22
10/30/18 11:44:10 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Biggest threat in this country is white men radicalized to the right

Show me the lie


So that is bigger than inner city gang violence? Really?
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ALLCAPSNOSPACES
10/30/18 11:45:19 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Biggest threat in this country is white men radicalized to the right

Show me the lie


So that is bigger than inner city gang violence? Really?

Gang violence is an issue but at least they are generally only murdering other gang members.

Ring wing terrorists are going after any and everyone.
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Darmik
10/30/18 11:46:21 PM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
CNN didnt say white conservative men are the biggest threat

They said radicalized white conservative men are the biggest threat

There is such a tremendous difference between the two that you have to be playing dumb not to acknowledge it


Exactly.

There's also a much bigger pool for extremists to radicalize white men in America compared to Islamic terrorism. Not getting many ISIS parades in the US as far as I know.
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ultimate reaver
10/30/18 11:48:00 PM
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ArchNemo posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
ArchNemo posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
ArchNemo posted...
ultimate reaver posted...
Its not actually funny to see how outraged the right gets at being categorized as violent and dangerous due to the roots of their ideology and rhetoric based on the actions of a few. All without a hint of irony or self awareness towards the way that theyve been treating another group for more than a decade at this point


Or normal people who have never condemned Islam suddenly being made boogeymen after being told for "more than a decade" that generalizing people based on ideologies is wrong.

What's good for the goose isn't good for the gander evidently


Yeah, go figure, there's a bunch of normal people all over the place that wouldn't dream of hurting a person or being particularly hateful about much of anything. It's kind of shocking how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot and life's hitting you that way


You missed the point entirely. The same people who condemned it are now doing it to their opponents.


No, you missed the point. The left doing something doesn't invalidate the right having been doing it for years, nor acting aghast and confused at the idea of profiling by ideology without gleaning any sort of lesson from it.

That's what makes it not funny. Nobody's learning fucking anything from this situation and they're just going "well you did it too!" like you are in your post.


Uhh, what? I never said "you did it too" I'm pointing out that when a group goes out of their way for years to make a point about not judging people based on ideology, it's wrong to turn around and do the same thing. It helps nobody.

To be honest, you're the one who sounds like you're saying paybacks a bitch.


I don't disagree with that, but it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, which I believe is the problem that's causing us to talk past each other. And I don't really think this is a case of payback being a bitch either, or else I'd be laughing rather than saying it's depressing.

I'm saying that when faced with a totally unfair profiling standard based on pockets of radicals, there's no realization of "oh, this is just like what our party has selling policy about muslims with for years," just general anger at the fact that they're being unfairly profiled. The fact that the left is dumb to push that doesn't really invalidate the complete lack of self-awareness and THEY'RE COMING FOR WHITE PEOPLE stuff. If anything it makes it worse that they get the stereotyping targeting them is stupid but not that the one about the scary brown people is also absurd.
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ArchNemo
10/30/18 11:48:48 PM
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Mr_Biscuit posted...
CNN didnt say white conservative men are the biggest threat

They said radicalized white conservative men are the biggest threat

There is such a tremendous difference between the two that you have to be playing dumb not to acknowledge it


Well, people still were prejudiced against Muslims despite right leaning news sticking "radical" in front of Islam. The majority of people don't differentiate. The fact that evidently alt-right terrorism has increased proves that, because in their mind they're likely "getting back" at those they see as threatening their life styles. They'll attack all white men, regardless of whether they're "radical"

Rather than CNN saying "it's our turn now" why not continue to say "dont judge based on ideology"

As I said, this helps nobody and only serves to sever people further.
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