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wwinterj25 10/24/18 12:08:24 PM #51: |
LinkPizza posted...
Just because you haven't doesn't mean most of us haven't... You're not us and have lived a life very different from most of us. We have mentioned that before. You can't really compare to us and say something's normal when what's normal to you and different to us... It's really bizarre how NMB thinks he talks for everyone when he doesn't leave the house and apparently lives in a very small town. It's even more odd that he concerns himself with trans folk. Maybe he's in the closet.... literally. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 10/24/18 12:26:07 PM #52: |
waterdeepchu posted...
it's not a mental disorder, because the people who spent their lives studying it - the only people qualified to make such an assessment - say its not. And they *all* say its not. Except, you know, the ones who do. But I guess that's how biased statistics work. LinkPizza posted... We'll probably never get an actual reading, tbh... Lots of people still don't actually say whether they are or aren't... Well the LGBT pollers I've seen automatically categorise those who don't want to talk about their sexuality as gay so say it's 10%. It's not really high either way. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aculo 10/24/18 12:32:28 PM #53: |
LinkPizza posted...
Aculo posted...no. the population of transgenders in this country is roughly 0.6%, ok? waiting before telling the world about it? transgenders haven't exactly been quiet about their commanding the general population to accommodate all of their demands, ok? --- ok? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 10/24/18 12:34:13 PM #54: |
Aculo posted...
LinkPizza posted...Aculo posted...no. the population of transgenders in this country is roughly 0.6%, ok? Some of them. Not all of them. Like how not all gay people told the world to accept them. You're just generalizing and assuming that all of them are loud about what they want. But that would be wrong. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aculo 10/24/18 12:35:45 PM #55: |
LinkPizza posted...
Aculo posted...LinkPizza posted...Aculo posted...no. the population of transgenders in this country is roughly 0.6%, ok? it's literally a vocal minority. the vocal minority, ok? --- ok? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/24/18 12:37:22 PM #56: |
LinkPizza posted...
Aculo posted...LinkPizza posted...Aculo posted...no. the population of transgenders in this country is roughly 0.6%, ok? I think this is probably true. A lot of people are downright hostile to even the concept of transgender people, especially online. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 10/24/18 12:38:50 PM #57: |
Aculo posted...
LinkPizza posted...Aculo posted...LinkPizza posted...Aculo posted...no. the population of transgenders in this country is roughly 0.6%, ok? Yeah. I know. Anyway, if is doesn't become more normalize, there may be more people who are fine with not hiding it... Kyuubi4269 posted... Well the LGBT pollers I've seen automatically categorise those who don't want to talk about their sexuality as gay so say it's 10%. It's not really high either way. Probably not. Though, there may be some who also said no when they actually were... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 10/24/18 12:40:42 PM #58: |
LinkPizza posted...
there may be some who also said no when they actually were... Could be all of them, you don't know. It's best to take data at face value instead of making assumptions to people's motives. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TigerTycoon 10/24/18 12:47:09 PM #59: |
What do you define as "normalized".
Do you want straight people to want to have sex with transgender people of the same physical sex and not care at all? --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SKARDAVNELNATE 10/24/18 12:47:25 PM #60: |
waterdeepchu posted...
There's no controversy where it matters. its only a political controversy. That's a fair point. There are examples of... What are they called? Trans-people? Makes it sound like they're non-sapient beings in disguise as people. So there are examples of 'them' demanding that everyone else comply with their self identification. Particularly when it comes to the use of pronouns. But it also seem that they are encouraged to do so to push a political agenda. It looks like the majority of the controversy is from people that are offended on their behalf. The transgender people, themselves, are only involved so much as is useful to push the agenda. They are made to believe that they are oppressed by society. When really most people don't care so long as they aren't getting pulled into it. And most people do get pulled into it as laws and policy are shaped by it against the wishes of the average person. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 10/24/18 12:48:14 PM #61: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
LinkPizza posted...there may be some who also said no when they actually were... I don't mind using data to form a general idea. But I also find that it would probably be impossible (at least for now) to have close to an exact count for this. And I'm not trying to assume people's motives. I'm guess saying that the data could be inaccurate for a multitude of things... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 10/24/18 1:18:50 PM #62: |
TigerTycoon posted...
Do you want straight people to want to have sex with transgender people of the same physical sex and not care at all? Can't say I'm against the idea of having sex with a trans person. Here is the thing though. Are you really considered to be homosexual if you want to have sex with a pre op FTM trans person or a post op MTF trans person? I mean one is technically still female while the other certainly looks like one. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/24/18 1:33:52 PM #63: |
TigerTycoon posted...
What do you define as "normalized". Why would I care who people have sex with? --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pedro45 10/24/18 1:53:02 PM #64: |
Well at least the closed minded people in this topic are obvious with their fear of change and being left behind.
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LinkPizza 10/24/18 4:30:20 PM #65: |
TigerTycoon posted...
What do you define as "normalized". Why should that matter? And why would we care who others have sex with? wwinterj25 posted... TigerTycoon posted...Do you want straight people to want to have sex with transgender people of the same physical sex and not care at all? I understand this, as well... One is technically a female, but looks like a male. I would say that that is probably more on the line of homosexuality a guy than having sex with a post-op MTF trans person because that person looks like a female. But in the end, people can have sex with who they want... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TigerTycoon 10/24/18 4:36:02 PM #66: |
LinkPizza posted...
TigerTycoon posted...What do you define as "normalized". I'm not talking about "other people " caring about who transgender people have sex with. I'm asking about if "normalized" is being defined as straight people no longer caring at all what the physical gender of a person they want to have sex with is. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 10/24/18 4:41:01 PM #67: |
TigerTycoon posted...
LinkPizza posted...TigerTycoon posted...What do you define as "normalized". If they want to have sex with that person, then they probably don't care. There was one guy who would dated this other guy that liked them. Then the other guy decided to get the operation to become a female. And now they are dating. I also know a friend in real life who went from male to female. And he's dating a guy who knows he use to be a male. Some don't care as long as they are the gender they are attracted to. It may even be a fetish for some people... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 10/24/18 5:15:13 PM #68: |
LinkPizza posted...
But in the end, people can have sex with who they want... Indeed but I'm more referring to the notion that labels mean absolutely nothing these days. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad_Chad 10/24/18 5:20:46 PM #69: |
normalized? no. accepted, sure.
they literally are not normal by definition. that's like saying "think albinos will be normal?" - no, they have a medical condition that makes them abnormal. that doesn't mean you should kick their asses or stuff but acceptance and normalization are different. --- Female body inspector and motorboating enthusiast. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pedro45 10/24/18 5:31:30 PM #70: |
wwinterj25 posted...
LinkPizza posted...But in the end, people can have sex with who they want... I try to push this so much. Labels only matter to those that understand them. If someone is trying to be mean, any label can sound bad. If I ever mistake a gender and someone takes offense, I question why one label can be so bad when both should be equal. I've been mistaken a few times since I have long hair and I think my slim body type can be seen feminine as well. I take no offense at all unless it is implied. --- Warning: Sometimes biased https://imgur.com/V0x5fw8 https://imgur.com/IOovUge https://imgur.com/zw7bqPH ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 10/24/18 5:34:02 PM #71: |
Rad_Chad posted...
normalized? no. accepted, sure. Pretty much everyone is abnormal by one definition or another --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad_Chad 10/24/18 5:40:34 PM #72: |
Mead posted...
Rad_Chad posted...normalized? no. accepted, sure. yes. mutations are rampant bro. but there are varying severities --- Female body inspector and motorboating enthusiast. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 10/24/18 6:12:45 PM #73: |
pedro45 posted...
wwinterj25 posted...LinkPizza posted...But in the end, people can have sex with who they want... I'd be totally fine with getting rid of labels like that. It would actually be pretty nice. But it highly unlikely that we could get most of the world to think like that. And that kind of sucks because it would probably be much better without label like that... I would think... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SKARDAVNELNATE 10/24/18 6:28:21 PM #74: |
TigerTycoon posted...
What do you define as "normalized". One example, left-handedness is normalized. Only 10% of people are left-handed. Yet no one asks them 'how many times has someone told you to try using your right hand more, you might like it?'. No one is trying to build a mob of left-handed people by telling them they are oppressed by right-handedness. No one is proposing laws to correct for right-handedness privilege. At least I haven't heard of this. Someone might. Never underestimate stupidity. --- No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD. Look at Mr. Technical over here >.> -BTB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mooreandrew58 10/24/18 8:40:59 PM #75: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
LinkPizza posted...there may be some who also said no when they actually were... I know I've never been asked in a poll and if I where I tell them its nobody's business but mine. I was given a piece of advice once and I follow it pretty well. Come out of the closest but don't come out of the room. In other words only tell people you trust some what. Only reason I'm open on here is because nobody actually knows me on here. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 10/24/18 10:02:24 PM #76: |
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
TigerTycoon posted...What do you define as "normalized". being left handed isn't "normal" because such a small percentage are left handed --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 10/24/18 10:45:08 PM #78: |
Krazy_Kirby posted...
being left handed isn't "normal" because such a small percentage are left handed Also, as 2:20 for another --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pedro45 10/24/18 11:15:49 PM #79: |
I think there are groups of left handed supporters that do promote more products for their benefit. Plenty of times a left handed person is handicapped cause something is built for righties
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LinkPizza 10/24/18 11:18:05 PM #80: |
pedro45 posted...
I think there are groups of left handed supporters that do promote more products for their benefit. Plenty of times a left handed person is handicapped cause something is built for righties Like scissors... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_SNAGRAT_LIE 10/24/18 11:40:49 PM #81: |
do not think society will ever accept injecting yourself with unnatural drugs to change your appearance to sort of resemble a woman.
i think people do it as an escape from other issues but im not too informed on the subject then again its considered normal in thailand, so who knows ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_SNAGRAT_LIE 10/25/18 12:02:39 AM #82: |
i also think its incredibly immoral to lie about your gender online because you suffer from this illness,
first of all i see absolutely no reason to talk about your gender online, correcting your gender to she*** is mostly done for attention in the first place. stating you are a she online, even if that is truly what you believe are, is incredibly misleading to everyone who reads it, they assume things about you that are not true, and it creates attention for you by people who are misguided about their impression about you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 12:39:40 AM #83: |
I think it should happen, but I don't think it will happen. I think the world will probably go to **** before trans people are accepted in the USA.
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 12:40:26 AM #84: |
_SNAGRAT_LIE posted...
do not think society will ever accept injecting yourself with unnatural drugs to change your appearance to sort of resemble a woman. "but im not too informed on the subject" google 'transgender scientific studies' you goddamned peon --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_SNAGRAT_LIE 10/25/18 12:45:08 AM #85: |
taking drugs to severely fuck up your appearance will always be a problem, no matter how many scientific studies are made
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Entity13 10/25/18 12:49:46 AM #86: |
I'd rather see a world where there is no such thing as "normal." "Normal" is too comformative and boring, and too many people argue for "normal's" sake. How can we grow with such arbitrary restrictions in all the wrong places, I ask you?
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 12:50:36 AM #87: |
https://www.the-scientist.com/features/are-the-brains-of-transgender-people-different-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027
I've never met a trans person who was an asshole and attacked other people for how they feel. Whereas we have a lot of people attacking trans people, claiming they desire attention. Bull ****ing ****. Try to understand the complexity behind these issues. Transsexuality is not an illness. If you try to cure an illness, it works. People have been trying to cure the homosexuals and trans people for years, and does it work??? NO, they KILL themselves. How do the majority of trans people (yes, you can talk about the statistical anomalies if you wish) feel post op? They experience better mental health. Probably even better if people weren't ****ing ****s to them every ****ing day though :)! https://www.quora.com/If-the-suicide-rate-for-post-op-transgender-people-is-still-very-high-is-this-an-indication-that-surgery-isnt-as-effective-at-solving-GID-as-was-thought --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_SNAGRAT_LIE 10/25/18 12:50:41 AM #88: |
Entity13 posted...
I'd rather see a world where there is no such thing as "normal." "Normal" is too comformative and boring, and too many people argue for "normal's" sake. How can we grow with such arbitrary restrictions in all the wrong places, I ask you? because its human nature to seek patterns and try to fit in???? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 12:51:25 AM #89: |
_SNAGRAT_LIE posted...
taking drugs to severely fuck up your appearance will always be a problem, no matter how many scientific studies are made Why is it a problem? Why is it severely fucking up your appearance? It seems to be a problem for you. It doesn't seem to be a problem for many other people. You do not speak for everyone. --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 12:52:30 AM #90: |
_SNAGRAT_LIE posted...
Entity13 posted...I'd rather see a world where there is no such thing as "normal." "Normal" is too comformative and boring, and too many people argue for "normal's" sake. How can we grow with such arbitrary restrictions in all the wrong places, I ask you? Yeah, that's how interesting books, movies, TV and games are made, right? NOPE --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 12:53:35 AM #91: |
god
damn normies --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 10/25/18 12:54:28 AM #92: |
ReturnOfFa posted...
_SNAGRAT_LIE posted...taking drugs to severely fuck up your appearance will always be a problem, no matter how many scientific studies are made it's a problem when it gets paid for by the government --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 10/25/18 12:55:31 AM #93: |
do you think nmb will ever leave his house
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 12:58:17 AM #94: |
Krazy_Kirby posted...
ReturnOfFa posted..._SNAGRAT_LIE posted...taking drugs to severely fuck up your appearance will always be a problem, no matter how many scientific studies are made lmfao!! got any stats on how many sex reassignment surgeries happen in prison? also, if you want to whine about money being unfairly spent on prison, America has the highest incarceration rate, wasting billions of dollars on small time drug offenders meanwhile you're moaning about some thousands I'd like you to prove --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 12:59:09 AM #95: |
oh dam u made u your post in to a less dramatic claim
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 1:05:24 AM #96: |
Whether or not it's paid for by the government in the USA will vary by state, and on a case-to-case basis. Quite typically, it is cheaper for governments to treat people, as opposed to letting them be continual drains on society (not working, drain on hospital resources, drain on prison resources). You may not agree with your taxation going towards the health and wellbeing of others. I personally value that.
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 1:05:57 AM #97: |
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 1:08:02 AM #98: |
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_SNAGRAT_LIE 10/25/18 1:11:22 AM #99: |
ReturnOfFa posted...
https://www.the-scientist.com/features/are-the-brains-of-transgender-people-different-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027 well my brother thinks he's transgendered and he pretends to be a girl online for attention and yeah im not denying people post op feel better from surgery, but i think its a permanant solution to a temporary problem, and also they are also creating more problems for the rest of their lives. since transgenders arent accepted in society yet they will have a lot of problems fitting into society, be looked down upon, even be a nuisance to others. to put it bluntly if someone is willing to make a permanent change to themselves knowing these consequences, or even not knowing these consequences because they didnt do the research, i have absolutely no respect for them at all. not sure if its an equivalent example, but I wouldn't chop off my leg to cure my social anxiety, autism, and adhd, which has caused me so many problems in life. I view it as the same in a country like thailand where being trans is culturally accepted and even considered the third gender i have absolutely no problem with it, but alas we live in the now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 10/25/18 1:15:35 AM #100: |
I'm disgusted by complacency and your disregard for your own family. Catch ya later!
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_SNAGRAT_LIE 10/25/18 1:15:51 AM #101: |
ReturnOfFa posted...
_SNAGRAT_LIE posted...taking drugs to severely fuck up your appearance will always be a problem, no matter how many scientific studies are made judging by the raging debates i see all the time, i would say it is. you don't speak for everyone either, but harassment does ... Copied to Clipboard!
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