Current Events > The Left Has A Data Problem (great article about leftist dishonesty)

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Bloodychess
10/19/18 4:29:50 PM
#51:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
but why the whataboutism?


because this entire article is nothing but partisan bullshit


which would be wholly accepted by this board if it supported the correct side
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JE19426
10/19/18 4:32:07 PM
#52:


DarkTransient posted...
Because the study was commissioned to try and justify the ACA, but failed to do so, so it was then dismissed as "not useful information".


The article confirms that fact, or at least refuses to make the claim contradicting it. Why use a study to make a decision when nobody thinks the study is useful to making that decision?
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Giant_Aspirin
10/19/18 4:32:17 PM
#53:


Bloodychess posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
but why the whataboutism?


because this entire article is nothing but partisan bullshit


which would be wholly accepted by this board if it supported the correct side


any article that attempted to discredit the entirety of "the right" by posting a few examples of bad data would also be partisan bullshit (aka dishonest)
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TrevorBlack79
10/19/18 4:42:50 PM
#54:


Bloodychess posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
but why the whataboutism?


because this entire article is nothing but partisan bullshit


which would be wholly accepted by this board if it supported the correct side


Bullshit. Partisan garbage from both sides regularly gets called out here.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/19/18 8:07:44 PM
#55:


bump
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FLUFFYGERM
10/19/18 8:36:16 PM
#56:


up
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FLUFFYGERM
10/19/18 8:46:22 PM
#57:


@Giant_Aspirin

hey buddy how come youre never this concerned when CE's leftists are parading those fake claims from Vox/motherjones/jacobinmag/etc all over CE? HMMMMMMMMMM?????
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hockeybub89
10/19/18 8:48:30 PM
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FLUFFYGERM
10/19/18 8:51:38 PM
#59:


who posted?
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voldothegr8
10/19/18 9:29:16 PM
#61:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
@Giant_Aspirin

hey buddy how come youre never this concerned when CE's leftists are parading those fake claims from Vox/motherjones/jacobinmag/etc all over CE? HMMMMMMMMMM?????

Got em
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Alpha218
10/19/18 9:35:30 PM
#62:


you know your topic sucks when you bump it 3 times in a row in 30 minutes because no responses
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HylianFox
10/19/18 9:41:01 PM
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FLUFFYGERM
10/19/18 9:48:20 PM
#64:


Damn, hockeybub's melting down hard.
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ssjevot
10/19/18 9:49:07 PM
#65:


furb posted...
I'm a social scientist.


furb posted...
The point of doing research is to prove or disprove the hypothesis the nulls


May want to read more on research methods. You cannot and do not prove things in science. I used to teach research methods to undergrads when I was a lecturer and this was a common misunderstanding. Good article to help explain:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/12/14/theres-no-such-thing-as-proof-in-the-scientific-world-theres-only-evidence/#53e89dac5392
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FLUFFYGERM
10/19/18 9:51:05 PM
#66:


ssjevot posted...
furb posted...
I'm a social scientist.


furb posted...
The point of doing research is to prove or disprove the hypothesis the nulls


May want to read more on research methods. You cannot and do not prove things in science. I used to teach research methods to undergrads when I was a lecturer and this was a common misunderstanding. Good article to help explain:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/12/14/theres-no-such-thing-as-proof-in-the-scientific-world-theres-only-evidence/#53e89dac5392


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Annihilated
10/19/18 10:02:08 PM
#67:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
but why the whataboutism?


because this entire article is nothing but partisan bullshit


which would be wholly accepted by this board if it supported the correct side


Bullshit. Partisan garbage from both sides regularly gets called out here.


Not by the same people.
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snake1989
10/19/18 10:24:40 PM
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Can't comment fully on the specific studies mentioned in the OP since I have not read them, but from my experience working in research I think it's important to add that part of the problem is that "nothing/negative" results are incredibly hard to get published. They're also harder to levy for securing funding for future research.

A lot of the money and attention goes to studies that can say "we expected to find X, and we did!" rather than those who were proven wrong, and so lots of negative results that are still scientifically valid and interesting go unpublished or unread because there's little financial or professional incentive in it. Even without any sort of ideological push, that can severely limit how well we actually understand the world via research.
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