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Sativa_Rose
10/17/18 8:24:20 AM
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Who won the Vietnam War? - Results (27 votes)
North Vietnam (later the Socialist Republic of Vietnam)
77.78% (21 votes)
21
The United States of America (and allies)
11.11% (3 votes)
3
It was a tie/draw/etc.
11.11% (3 votes)
3
Who won the Vietnam War? According to some guy I just talked to, he thinks most Americans think that the US won, or they make some BS excuse and think it's a tie.

I disagreed and said that most Americans think that North Vietnam won and the US lost. I am curious what the results of the poll will be.
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Veggeta X
10/17/18 8:24:58 AM
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Communism won.
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SSJCAT
10/17/18 8:25:41 AM
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ive never met anyone that claimed we won vietnam
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JE19426
10/17/18 8:29:30 AM
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North Vietnam. They achieved their goal, while their opponent didn't achieve their goal. I've seen people try to argue it was a draw because the US wasn't invaded, which is dumb as fuck. I don't think I've seen anyone argue the US won.
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Kombucha
10/17/18 8:30:46 AM
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pretty sure capitalism won.
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Middle hope
10/17/18 8:33:33 AM
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Nobody won.
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Sativa_Rose
10/17/18 8:33:53 AM
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Middle hope posted...
Nobody won.


Creedence Clearwater Revival did.
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Lorenzo_2003
10/17/18 8:50:35 AM
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JE19426 posted...
I've seen people try to argue it was a draw because the US wasn't invaded, which is dumb as fuck.


Wow, never seen that one before. I have seen the argument that the US was there as a supporting ally and it was the South's war anyway, which is true but misleading. The North won, regardless. It was a costly victory for the North, though. They lost nearly 19 soldiers for every American that died (3.5 Northerners, if you add the Southern force's losses, even by conservative estimates). But just like Homer Simpson, you can get hit and hit and hit, but still win if your opponent is too tired or frustrated to continue.
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Colorahdo
10/17/18 8:58:35 AM
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lol when I made this topic all of the Americans were bitching at me that it was a "tie"
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DevsBro
10/17/18 8:58:47 AM
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Middle hope posted...
Nobody won.

This is the way I always heard it. At a point US was just like screw it and went home.
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Colorahdo
10/17/18 9:01:31 AM
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DevsBro posted...
Middle hope posted...
Nobody won.

This is the way I always heard it. At a point US was just like screw it and went home.


And the vietcong successfully took over the country

that's called losing
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JE19426
10/17/18 9:02:11 AM
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DevsBro posted...
This is the way I always heard it. At a point US was just like screw it and went home.


That's pretty dumb way of looking at it. The US (and South Vietnam) failed to achieve their goals. North Vietnam achieved their goals.
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Master_Bass
10/17/18 9:03:57 AM
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The North Vietnamese definately won since they're running the county now. I don't see how you could interpret events anyway else.
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CW_McGraw
10/17/18 9:05:31 AM
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Was the guy you talked to Bob McNamara from 1966?
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DaemMkIV7
10/17/18 9:08:27 AM
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Me
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SageHarpuiaHX
10/17/18 9:09:53 AM
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I refuse to accept that THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA lost to a bunch of COMMIES. We didn't lose we just RETREATED. The COMMIES didn't win because THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA never loses!

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Whose broad stripes and bright stars thru the perilous fight,
Oer the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
Oer the land of the free and the home of the brave?

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solosnake
10/17/18 9:11:35 AM
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Russia won that war, pretty obvious
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Darkman124
10/17/18 9:16:32 AM
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Colorahdo posted...
And the vietcong successfully took over the country


the viet cong were destroyed in the tet offensive. it was the north vietnamese army that took over the country.

US objectives ceased to exist in a meaningful way by the end of the war, and it was clear that the south vietnamese government had no will of its own.

When you view the war through the realistic lens of unification between a strong, well organized government and a weak, corrupt one that was backed by the US, you can see why the US lost: it picked the team of a side that didn't want to play.

Did take NVA 2 more years to take the country, though. But when we left, we knew they would.
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Sativa_Rose
10/17/18 10:58:52 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
the viet cong were destroyed in the tet offensive


But that was in 1968. There wouldn't have been a need for the US to stay seriously in the war for another 4 years if that were the case.
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Darkman124
10/17/18 11:02:45 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Darkman124 posted...
the viet cong were destroyed in the tet offensive


But that was in 1968. There wouldn't have been a need for the US to stay seriously in the war for another 4 years if that were the case.


the viet cong were not the only threat to south vietnam
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Sativa_Rose
10/17/18 11:04:35 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Darkman124 posted...
the viet cong were destroyed in the tet offensive


But that was in 1968. There wouldn't have been a need for the US to stay seriously in the war for another 4 years if that were the case.


the viet cong were not the only threat to south vietnam


yes, but weren't they attacking from like Laos and Cambodia and stuff as well? That's why they expanded the war there.
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Darkman124
10/17/18 11:05:38 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
yes, but weren't they attacking from like Laos and Cambodia and stuff as well? That's why they expanded the war there.


laos/cambodia were used as supply lines yes.

you need to understand that the VC resources were so depleted by the tet offensive that the NVA basically had to assume direct control
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K181
10/17/18 11:08:52 AM
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Pretty clearly North Vietnam. You don't win or tie if you're evacuating on the fly and hurriedly pulling people out via helicopter from the embassy rooftop.
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SaithSayer
10/17/18 11:12:18 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Communism won.

Communism was just a red herring.
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dib153
10/17/18 11:38:24 AM
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We had no business getting involved, tge political struggles of a 3rd world nation shouldnt be any of our concern especially if they don't impact us in any meaningful way.

And for not minding our own business we got the same ass whoopin anybody else would get in any metropolitan city in the world
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myzz7
10/17/18 11:40:34 AM
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usa lost
communism lost
vietnam won

just lol at what happened when NV tried to enforce full scale communism right after the war. they stopped that nonsense quick after they saw it doesn't work
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Sativa_Rose
10/17/18 11:46:21 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
yes, but weren't they attacking from like Laos and Cambodia and stuff as well? That's why they expanded the war there.


laos/cambodia were used as supply lines yes.

you need to understand that the VC resources were so depleted by the tet offensive that the NVA basically had to assume direct control


Oh okay. I didn't know that.
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monkmith
10/17/18 11:53:39 AM
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myzz7 posted...
usa lost
communism lost
vietnam won

just lol at what happened when NV tried to enforce full scale communism right after the war. they stopped that nonsense quick after they saw it doesn't work

vietnam didn't even win, unless you consider winning to be the massive death toll, the destruction of much of their country, and the decades of after effects from bombs/landmines/chemicals. at the very best you could call it a pyrrhic victory.
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VectorChaos
10/17/18 11:57:39 AM
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Defense contractors won
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Tyranthraxus
10/17/18 11:59:08 AM
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America definitely lost but I wouldn't say anybody won.

Like, if two people are fighting near the edge of the grand canyon and fall off, who won?
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SuperMedz3
10/17/18 12:01:53 PM
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South Vietnam lost
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ElatedVenusaur
10/17/18 12:04:35 PM
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We basically took a local conflict that would have been resolved swiftly in the same way it eventually was, and dragged it out for ~10 years at an incredible expense in human life, money, and to American prestige. No one really won(even though North Vietnam did eventually absorb South Vietnam), but we certainly lost.
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spikethedevil
10/17/18 12:08:21 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
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ArchiePeck
10/17/18 12:10:57 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
The North Vietnamese definately won since they're running the county now. I don't see how you could interpret events anyway else.
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Kolibri X
10/17/18 12:12:23 PM
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How could anyone think ANY side won in that war?
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VectorChaos
10/17/18 12:15:52 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
How could anyone think ANY side won in that war?


VectorChaos posted...
Defense contractors won

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Unsugarized_Foo
10/17/18 12:20:47 PM
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We did until China stepped in
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SaithSayer
10/17/18 12:30:12 PM
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Viet-FUCKIN'-NAM!
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Sativa_Rose
10/17/18 12:33:46 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
How could anyone think ANY side won in that war?


Because the Communist Vietnam actually did win.
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iPhone_7
10/17/18 12:38:03 PM
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Vietnamese won. The U.S. would have won if they kept pushing on for a few more months but the liberal hippies succeeded with their constant protesting because they hated America.
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ArchiePeck
10/17/18 1:09:27 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
How could anyone think ANY side won in that war?


Because one side was fighting for communist rule and one side was trying to stop that from happening... and it ended under communist rule?
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ThePrinceFish
10/17/18 1:11:01 PM
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North Vietnam won the war.
South Vietnam lost the war.
America bailed before the end of the war, failing their objective for the conflict, but not losing the war.

Tie game.
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eggcorn
10/17/18 1:12:13 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
he thinks most Americans think that the US won, or they make some BS excuse and think it's a tie.

No one thinks this.
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bladegash
10/17/18 1:48:52 PM
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I mean, objectively, NV won i suppose. But the US didnt lose the war, we just sopped supporting SV, SV lost when they surrendered.

Militarily, I dont think the US lost any major battle while in Vietnam, but we eventually pulled out and never really completed our objective of stopping communism.

But to say NV beat any other country in conflict is far from the truth.
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