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Darkman124
10/16/18 9:19:48 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
What other threads


the 400 post one in which i posted this repeatedly, for starters

cMognVK

https://tinyurl.com/ybm2frp5

The Globe also reviewed, for the first time, a Harvard University human resources form showing that Warren first listed her ethnicity as Native American nearly five months after she started her tenured position at Harvard and 2 years after she was there as a visiting professor and first offered the job.

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John_Galt
10/16/18 9:20:50 AM
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Trump is 100% spot-on.

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Coffeebeanz
10/16/18 9:21:47 AM
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I honestly don't care what Warren does with her stated ethnicity. Everyone is different. I personally wouldn't call myself Native American under any context, despite my tribal membership. But that doesn't mean she can't or shouldn't.
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soylentgreen
10/16/18 9:23:35 AM
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Warren made her bed here
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Darkman124
10/16/18 9:24:44 AM
#55:


Coffeebeanz posted...
I honestly don't care what Warren does with her stated ethnicity. Everyone is different. I personally wouldn't call myself Native American under any context, despite my tribal membership. But that doesn't mean she can't or shouldn't.


Then...

Coffeebeanz posted...
let's be brutally honest here, she did deliberately and for a pretty obvious reason.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cF377eW0nU" data-time="

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Coffeebeanz
10/16/18 9:25:32 AM
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I don't understand why this is a big deal. Obviously she believed she was part NA because that's what her parents told her. She didn't know her percentage because she probably can't trace it to the Dawes Act. Who knows what motive she had for switching her stated race on applications. Could be benign for all we know.
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The Great Muta 22
10/16/18 9:26:02 AM
#57:


Coffeebeanz posted...
I honestly don't care what Warren does with her stated ethnicity. Everyone is different. I personally wouldn't call myself Native American under any context, despite my tribal membership. But that doesn't mean she can't or shouldn't.


What "obvious reason" did she claim to be one?
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Mr_Biscuit
10/16/18 9:26:11 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
"take a DNA test and I'll give you a million dollars for a charity"

"ok."

"who cares!? I never said that!"

"dna tests are bogus. also this dna test proves that you are not native enough!"

and people support thus guy

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Coffeebeanz
10/16/18 9:26:44 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I honestly don't care what Warren does with her stated ethnicity. Everyone is different. I personally wouldn't call myself Native American under any context, despite my tribal membership. But that doesn't mean she can't or shouldn't.


What "obvious reason" did she claim to be one?


It gets her access to resources. And I'm not even saying it's a wrong thing to do.
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The Great Muta 22
10/16/18 9:27:28 AM
#61:


Coffeebeanz posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I honestly don't care what Warren does with her stated ethnicity. Everyone is different. I personally wouldn't call myself Native American under any context, despite my tribal membership. But that doesn't mean she can't or shouldn't.


What "obvious reason" did she claim to be one?


It gets her access to resources. And I'm not even saying it's a wrong thing to do.


What resources did she gain access to?
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Darkman124
10/16/18 9:27:40 AM
#62:


Coffeebeanz posted...
I don't understand why this is a big deal. Obviously she believed she was part NA because that's what her parents told her. She didn't know her percentage because she probably can't trace it to the Dawes Act. Who knows what motive she had for switching her stated race on applications. Could be benign for all we know.


because republicans have made it a big deal

for five years

Coffeebeanz posted...
It gets her access to resources.


it didn't

she was careful to never use it for that
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ledbowman
10/16/18 9:27:53 AM
#63:


Coffeebeanz posted...
I honestly don't care what Warren does with her stated ethnicity. Everyone is different. I personally wouldn't call myself Native American under any context, despite my tribal membership. But that doesn't mean she can't or shouldn't.

Then shut the fuck up.
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Coffeebeanz
10/16/18 9:33:37 AM
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ledbowman posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
I honestly don't care what Warren does with her stated ethnicity. Everyone is different. I personally wouldn't call myself Native American under any context, despite my tribal membership. But that doesn't mean she can't or shouldn't.

Then shut the fuck up.


You're the one who made the topic
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Coffeebeanz
10/16/18 9:35:26 AM
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If only the Warren Defense Force is allowed here, you should've put it in the title.
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thelovefist
10/16/18 9:37:57 AM
#66:


Warren and Trump both look like petulant idiotic children in this.
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RainblowDash
10/16/18 9:39:20 AM
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No Pow Wow for her!
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Alpha218
10/16/18 9:41:10 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Idk why people engage the Trumpers on this still. Theyd rather namecall and do victory dances than look at the facts (and hold Donnie to account for not paying the CHARITY he promised money to).


Meh, Trump is entertaining. He is a Master level troll whom no one can stop talking about. He wins some, he loses some, and despite being "stupid" keeps running circles around the media, Hollywood celebrities, and lifelong politicians.

Oh, and I do agree that Trump should pay up on Warren's claim. Unfortunately, her Native heritage is so embarrassingly low that Trump should cut her a check for 1/1024 of the million. That's reasonable.

I am talking about his low-information supporters who try to turn any situation into a win because Trump can never be wrong. Trump himself? He is unfortunately the president of the United States. If you give a rats ass about the future of the country at all thats someone you have to pay attention to because hes not a 2-bit reality tv star anymore.

Also while I dont like Warren humoring him I get why she did it - she is trying to put it to rest before the 2020 campaign cycle kicks up for her. This is literally the only thing they can hammer her on. This stupid conspiracy theory about her exploiting Native American ties has gone way too far and she might just be feeding the fire in the end though.

The Cherokee chief saying shit doesnt matter because she never affiliated with the tribe and whatever they say doesnt affect your fucking DNA. People love to point out the 1/1024 number too but thats the lowest in the range. It could be as high as 1/64. Not that that matters to a president who bragged about how great his genes and superior German blood are.

bover_87 posted...
Imagine being such a shitty person that you welch on a fucking charity bet.

Butters should take notes.

This is unfortunately neither the first or last time this will happen.
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Knowledge_King
10/16/18 9:45:16 AM
#69:


Alpha218 posted...
It could be as high as 1/64


Which is really, really low.
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Ruvan22
10/16/18 9:46:21 AM
#70:


Spooking posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
ledbowman posted...
Warren didn't ask and didn't know the school used her for affirmative action numbers.


How did the school find out about her heritage if she did not tell them? Being such a small percentage, there is no way anyone could tell she was Ingenious.

Warren is a proven liar, so I don't know why people think Warren's word is as good as our Lord's.

Also,

"I will give you a million dollars, to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian"

Trump doesn't have to pay up due to the bolded part. Nice try, Warren, but you lose.


So to be clear, your metric is "Person has been proven to have lied in the past = their word is not good"? I just want to make sure I understand your definition...
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Coffeebeanz
10/16/18 9:48:13 AM
#71:


Knowledge_King posted...
Alpha218 posted...
It could be as high as 1/64


Which is really, really low.


No it isn't.
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Alpha218
10/16/18 9:49:00 AM
#72:


Knowledge_King posted...
Alpha218 posted...
It could be as high as 1/64


Which is really, really low.

Im aware of how numbers work yeah. It was never said that it was a recent ancestor.
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Newhopes
10/16/18 9:51:27 AM
#73:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Alpha218 posted...
It could be as high as 1/64


Which is really, really low.


No it isn't.


DNA wise she's about as white as they come LOL.
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happibivouac
10/16/18 10:21:55 AM
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Donald Trump would be a really funny guy if he wasn't the president.
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Villain
10/16/18 10:28:29 AM
#76:


Still racist to be throwing "Pocahontas" around the way he is
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CyricZ
10/16/18 10:31:23 AM
#77:


Villain posted...
Still racist to be throwing "Pocahontas" around the way he is

You wouldn't be surprised at how few people care about that part of it.
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Newhopes
10/16/18 10:32:48 AM
#78:


Villain posted...
Still racist to be throwing "Pocahontas" around the way he is


How is it racist to call somebody out for bullshit?
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ledbowman
10/16/18 10:34:09 AM
#79:


fenderbender321 posted...
Saying that Trump won the bet is saying that literally every single American has the right to claim to be Native American. Come on, now. He won that bet, quite handily.

She never claimed full NA blood and Trump said she had no Native blood at all. He bet against her claim of having Native ancestry.
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CruelBuffalo
10/16/18 10:34:32 AM
#80:


fenderbender321 posted...
Saying that Trump won the bet is saying that literally every single American has the right to claim to be Native American. Come on, now. He won that bet, quite handily.

How does that prove every single american has a right to claim that. I did a DNA test, I has no native american ancestry
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Alpha218
10/16/18 10:34:40 AM
#81:


Villain posted...
Still racist to be throwing "Pocahontas" around the way he is

FFS he spoke at a ceremony commemorating WWII Navajo code talkers... and at least half of that speech was him shitting on Elizabeth Warren for no reason.
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VipaGTS
10/16/18 10:34:57 AM
#82:


Newhopes posted...
Villain posted...
Still racist to be throwing "Pocahontas" around the way he is


How is it racist to call somebody out for bullshit?

how is calling her Pocahontas doing that? Also why does he care so much? Why is he so fixated on THIS? Do you not think this is a little childish for the President? Maybe just ignore this and move on? He can't debate her on policy so he falls back onto this. Its what simple minded idiots do.
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CruelBuffalo
10/16/18 10:35:30 AM
#83:


Newhopes posted...
Villain posted...
Still racist to be throwing "Pocahontas" around the way he is


How is it racist to call somebody out for bullshit?


Hur dur how is it racist to call someone by a different name just because you want to tease them about race derp
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VipaGTS
10/16/18 10:39:58 AM
#86:


fenderbender321 posted...
He calls her Pocahontas because Pocahontas was a famous Native American.

and likely the only one he knows. probably thinks she's just a Disney princess.
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ledbowman
10/16/18 10:40:48 AM
#87:


Dur how it racist to call Wentworth Miller "Coltrane"?
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creativerealms
10/16/18 10:42:31 AM
#88:


She did what Trump asked and now he's changing tactics and turning it own her.
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creativerealms
10/16/18 10:44:53 AM
#89:


Newhopes posted...
Villain posted...
Still racist to be throwing "Pocahontas" around the way he is


How is it racist to call somebody out for bullshit?

Only trump was the one called out on his bullshit and instead if admitting defeat he's doubling down on his attacks.
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Returning_CEmen
10/16/18 10:51:58 AM
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Politicians lying and being shady, big surprise
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CruelBuffalo
10/16/18 11:51:52 AM
#91:


fenderbender321 posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Saying that Trump won the bet is saying that literally every single American has the right to claim to be Native American. Come on, now. He won that bet, quite handily.

How does that prove every single american has a right to claim that. I did a DNA test, I has no native american ancestry


Okay well most. I really used literally incorrectly there.


Not even most. And are you using American as a stand in as White American (non-hispanic)?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
10/16/18 11:56:26 AM
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Warren should team up with the only Dems that have balls and pull in Alan Grayson as an attack dog.
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Kineth
10/16/18 12:00:52 PM
#93:


Coffeebeanz posted...
If only the Warren Defense Force is allowed here, you should've put it in the title.


Oh you're right, you can never be wrong about something.
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Foppe
10/16/18 12:33:51 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKxtXzAgGew" data-time="

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MARKINGRAM22
10/16/18 12:34:46 PM
#96:


Warren is the one person I have no problem with Trump tweeting at.
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Lorenzo_2003
10/16/18 12:57:55 PM
#97:


Foppe posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKxtXzAgGew" data-time="


If Trump sees that, he's crazy enough to loop it nonstop so it's all anyone thinks of when the big election happens.
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Coffeebeanz
10/16/18 2:11:09 PM
#98:


I sometimes get told I look "Cherokee" when I mention I'm a member of the Cherokee Nation.

Thanks, Chinese half!
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thelovefist
10/16/18 3:00:47 PM
#99:


Kineth posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
If only the Warren Defense Force is allowed here, you should've put it in the title.


Oh you're right, you can never be wrong about something.

You're a black nationalist and your opinion on these kinds of matters is worthless.
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MaverickXeo
10/16/18 7:53:32 PM
#100:


Coffeebeanz posted...
I don't understand why this is a big deal. Obviously she believed she was part NA because that's what her parents told her. She didn't know her percentage because she probably can't trace it to the Dawes Act. Who knows what motive she had for switching her stated race on applications. Could be benign for all we know.


I apparently have African descent in my family... I do not claim to say I am 'black' because it is such a minuscule amount.
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YUHH
10/16/18 7:55:42 PM
#101:


Spooking posted...
This is who Elizabeth Warren is:

After becoming a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, Warren demanded the University change her faculty listed ethnicity from white to Native American.

Warren was identified by Harvard Law as a woman of color. Harvard promoted Warrens hire as expanding their campus diversity by hiring a woman with "minority background" onto their faculty.

Warren claimed that her mother and father had to elope due to her moms obvious Indian heritage and the white bigotry of her fathers family.

Warren submitted multiple recipes for the Indian cookbook Pow Wow Chow and signed her name, Elizabeth Warren - Cherokee

She defended her claims of Native American heritage, declaring that her family had high cheekbones like all the Indians do. This is on video.

She continues to claim Native ancestry even now using a DNA test result that shows that she likely has LESS native blood than an average white American. She is asking that Trump pays $1 million he promised in case she proves "she is Indian" therefore explicitly claiming that "she is Indian".

Nuff said.

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