Current Events > Vast majority of Americans dislike PC Culture

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majorities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/

Some tidbits


Most members of the exhausted majority, and then some, dislike political correctness. Among the general population, a full 80 percent believe that political correctness is a problem in our country. Even young people are uncomfortable with it, including 74 percent ages 24 to 29, and 79 percent under age 24. On this particular issue, the woke are in a clear minority across all ages.

Political tribeas defined by the authorsis an even better predictor of views on political correctness. Among devoted conservatives, 97 percent believe that political correctness is a problem. Among traditional liberals, 61 percent do. Progressive activists are the only group that strongly backs political correctness: Only 30 percent see it as a problem.

Sorry if this was posted already
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People get offended by what the people they hate say, regardless of affiliation.

Cus they too busy playing console games
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Most of the country doesn't care about political correctness. Only the media does and since they control everything, political correctness isn't going anywhere.
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yeah cause theyre a bunch of nerds who wont shut up about their intel pentium amd quad septuplet core processor and hair follicle generator
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Now if the radical left would learn that their utter non-tact and failed diplomacy are actually making things worse, we could start to get better.
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I make offensive jokes constantly in daily life, almost never catch shit from it. It's mostly just dweebs on social media who would never have the balls to call someone out on saying something they don't like in person.
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But the PC Kids are so cute.
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Americans are obviously ignoramuses. Its a known fact that PC >>>>> Xbox >> PS4
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When they say "a problem", do they actually mean "a minor irritation"?

Rural Africa: I'm starving and have no clean water or electricty
North Korea: I'm starving and in constant fear that I'm going to be publicly executed because of a comment made by my second cousin
Myanmar: I'm literally being killed rn
China: My sister applied for a permit to protest and I haven't seen her since
America: I can't say disparaging things about minorities publicly without people shouting angry things at me through the internet :( white genocide is a real thing.
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PC elitists ruin it for me too.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Rural Africa: I'm starving and have no clean water or electricty
North Korea: I'm starving and in constant fear that I'm going to be publicly executed because of a comment made by my second cousin
Myanmar: I'm literally being killed rn
China: My sister applied for a permit to protest and I haven't seen her since
America: I can't say disparaging things about minorities publicly without people shouting angry things at me through the internet :( white genocide is a real thing.

And yet only one the left says is a shithole country. Can you guess which one?

Tyranthraxus posted...

Rural Africa: I'm starving and have no clean water or electricty
North Korea: I'm starving and in constant fear that I'm going to be publicly executed because of a comment made by my second cousin
Myanmar: I'm literally being killed rn
China: My sister applied for a permit to protest and I haven't seen her since
America: I can't say disparaging things about minorities publicly without people shouting angry things at me through the internet :( white genocide is a real thing.

No one has it rough in the U.S.? Are you serious?

"People are having rough times somewhere in the world (but not America) therefore people should feel bad for not favoring political correctness"
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Annihilated posted...

And yet only one the left says is a shithole country.

Here's the problem with people who use the phrase "shithole country": they use it to mean that anyone who comes from a "shithole country" is, by definition, subhuman shit. Not that they're struggling under extremely difficult conditions, or enduring oppression, but that they themselves are the problem.

Tyranthraxus, your toxicity is hurting liberalism. Go hide in a hole please.
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There is a reason why Trump called those country shit holes and the mass exodus of refugees confirms how bad those countries are.
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Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

And yet only one the left says is a shithole country.

Here's the problem with people who use the phrase "shithole country": they use it to mean that anyone who comes from a "shithole country" is, by definition, subhuman shit. Not that they're struggling under extremely difficult conditions, or enduring oppression, but that they themselves are the problem.

Ding ding ding

Also africa isnt a country
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Firewerx posted...

they use it to mean that anyone who comes from a "shithole country" is, by definition, subhuman shit.

Don't hurt your back shoveling words into people's mouths like that.
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Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

And yet only one the left says is a shithole country.

Here's the problem with people who use the phrase "shithole country": they use it to mean that anyone who comes from a "shithole country" is, by definition, subhuman shit. Not that they're struggling under extremely difficult conditions, or enduring oppression, but that they themselves are the problem.

So you're just proving my point then.

Funbazooka posted...

No one has it rough in the U.S.? Are you serious?

"People are having rough times somewhere in the world (but not America) therefore people should feel bad for not favoring political correctness"

Plenty of people are enduring hardships in America.

There are people who are starving and homeless. There are people who being beaten by abusive spouses and wonder if the next time they go home they'll never leave again. There are people who can't drink the water where they live because it's full of lead. There are people with horrible diseases that they can't get proper care for and are deteriorating slowly. All of this in just America.

Not being able to say racist shit on twitter is not a real problem.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Firewerx posted...

they use it to mean that anyone who comes from a "shithole country" is, by definition, subhuman shit.

Don't hurt your back shoveling words into people's mouths like that.

Never heard anyone use the phrase who didn't make their opinions transparently clear about the kind of people who come from "shithole countries". Don't kid me there aren't noisy concerns about importing the "shittiness" of these countries by admitting immigrants and refugees from them, as if these people are synecdoches of the country itself.

Annihilated posted...

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

And yet only one the left says is a shithole country.

Here's the problem with people who use the phrase "shithole country": they use it to mean that anyone who comes from a "shithole country" is, by definition, subhuman shit. Not that they're struggling under extremely difficult conditions, or enduring oppression, but that they themselves are the problem.

So you're just proving my point then.

What was that, exactly?

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

And yet only one the left says is a shithole country.

Here's the problem with people who use the phrase "shithole country": they use it to mean that anyone who comes from a "shithole country" is, by definition, subhuman shit. Not that they're struggling under extremely difficult conditions, or enduring oppression, but that they themselves are the problem.

So you're just proving my point then.

What was that, exactly?

I already know that leftists think Americans are subhuman shit, especially those who come from red states. RebelElite even came right out and admitted it just now. So what was the contrast exactly?

the survey question did not define political correctness for respondents

Kind of an important takeaway.

The surveyed were pretty much asked to make their own interpretation on what they think political correctness is, and judge based on their own interpretation, rather than have PC defined for them, or for the study to take responses and grade them on a scale of what it presupposes PC is.

That's not a bad thing, though. Since people are required to make their own perceptions as it is on the reg, then it would make sense that the survey would ask the same of them.

From the couple of responses given (and it's only a couple, so it might not be representative), the concern seems to be that people are, in essence, worried they'll say the wrong thing and get in tangible trouble for it. Given how people in high positions can very publicly lose jobs or standing due to what they say, and due to the fact that a lot of what the media portrays as "PC culture" is often seen in political protest and activism, I'm not surprised that's the view they have of it.

It's an interesting read, and I think I'll look at the actual publication of the study in a bit, but not now.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Funbazooka posted...

No one has it rough in the U.S.? Are you serious?

"People are having rough times somewhere in the world (but not America) therefore people should feel bad for not favoring political correctness"

Plenty of people are enduring hardships in America.

There are people who are starving and homeless. There are people who being beaten by abusive spouses and wonder if the next time they go home they'll never leave again. There are people who can't drink the water where they live because it's full of lead. There are people with horrible diseases that they can't get proper care for and are deteriorating slowly. All of this in just America.

Not being able to say racist shit on twitter is not a real problem.

The article's about political correctness, not racism. Political correctness isn't a synonym for racial harmony.

From the article itself: "If age and race do not predict support for political correctness, what does? Income and education."

And if you insist that anyone opposed to political correctness is a racist then you're condemning 80% of the general population.
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Annihilated posted...

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

And yet only one the left says is a shithole country.

Here's the problem with people who use the phrase "shithole country": they use it to mean that anyone who comes from a "shithole country" is, by definition, subhuman shit. Not that they're struggling under extremely difficult conditions, or enduring oppression, but that they themselves are the problem.

So you're just proving my point then.

What was that, exactly?

I already know that leftists think Americans are subhuman shit, especially those who come from red states. RebelElite even came right out and admitted it just now. So what was the contrast exactly?

So your complaint is really about the hypocrisy of the left having the same toxic prejudices as the right but just not admitting it?

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

And yet only one the left says is a shithole country.

Here's the problem with people who use the phrase "shithole country": they use it to mean that anyone who comes from a "shithole country" is, by definition, subhuman shit. Not that they're struggling under extremely difficult conditions, or enduring oppression, but that they themselves are the problem.

So you're just proving my point then.

What was that, exactly?

I already know that leftists think Americans are subhuman shit, especially those who come from red states. RebelElite even came right out and admitted it just now. So what was the contrast exactly?

So your complaint is really about the hypocrisy of the left having the same toxic prejudices as the right but just not admitting it?

I never said the right had any of those prejudices. But the left most CERTAINLY does.

They asked whether a controversial phrase is bad and then didn't define the phrase? That's not very useful. Everyone has their own interpretation of what it means. It doesn't mean they dislike the underlying value, they may just hate it when their opponents use it. For example, it's definitely political correctness to not be able to call deplorables deplorable.
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legendary_zell posted...

They asked whether a controversial phrase is bad and then didn't define the phrase? That's not very useful. Everyone has their own interpretation of what it means. It doesn't mean they dislike the underlying value, they may just hate it when their opponents use it. For example, it's definitely political correctness to not be able to call deplorables deplorable.

I think the proper takeaway is learning what they think it is, rather than telling them what it is and wondering how they interpret that new definition they might have.
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Funbazooka posted...

The article's about political correctness, not racism. Political correctness isn't a synonym for racial harmony.

From the article itself: "If age and race do not predict support for political correctness, what does? Income and education."

And if you insist that anyone opposed to political correctness is a racist then you're condemning 80% of the general population.

Posting racial epithets on twitter isn't racism, as unintuitive as it might sound.
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Annihilated posted...

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

Firewerx posted...

Annihilated posted...

And yet only one the left says is a shithole country.

Here's the problem with people who use the phrase "shithole country": they use it to mean that anyone who comes from a "shithole country" is, by definition, subhuman shit. Not that they're struggling under extremely difficult conditions, or enduring oppression, but that they themselves are the problem.

So you're just proving my point then.

What was that, exactly?

I already know that leftists think Americans are subhuman shit, especially those who come from red states. RebelElite even came right out and admitted it just now. So what was the contrast exactly?

So your complaint is really about the hypocrisy of the left having the same toxic prejudices as the right but just not admitting it?

I never said the right had any of those prejudices. But the left most CERTAINLY does.

Both left and right are staring into a mirror: always highlighting the hypocrisy of the other side. Whether you're left or right, there isn't some kind of twisted virtue in accusing the other side of having the same prejudices as your own. Seems to me that's a reason for feeling instead like you've lost a bigger argument, not won the smaller one.

if political correctness isn't defined, then this isn't surprising at all. no one likes being overly and disingenuously polite about every issue, which is what I suspect most people would consider political correctness when undefined
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CyricZ posted...

legendary_zell posted...

They asked whether a controversial phrase is bad and then didn't define the phrase? That's not very useful. Everyone has their own interpretation of what it means. It doesn't mean they dislike the underlying value, they may just hate it when their opponents use it. For example, it's definitely political correctness to not be able to call deplorables deplorable.

I think the proper takeaway is learning what they think it is, rather than telling them what it is and wondering how they interpret that new definition they might have.

That's true to an extent, but it's incomplete. Someone who claims to dislike political correctness but doesn't want to be called out for being racist loves political correctness. Without defining it, it just becomes a cultural ink blot test.
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I didn't say that. Didn't even suggest that.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

utter non-tact and failed diplomacy

It got our President elected
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