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Howl 10/08/18 6:33:02 PM #1:	If my 4G connection goes out and it switches to 3G, it takes like 5 minutes just to load Google's hompage. Shouldn't 3G internet be faster than dial-up at least in theory? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:910192036] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote>If my 4G connection goes out and it switches to 3G, it takes like 5 minutes just to load Google's hompage. Shouldn't 3G internet be faster than dial-up at least in theory?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 10/08/18 6:34:39 PM #2:	Your phone's been tapped. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:910192118] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote>Your phone's been tapped.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/08/18 6:37:05 PM #3:	4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. Disclaimer: I am not a networking professional. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910192249] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote>4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. Disclaimer: I am not a networking professional.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/08/18 6:38:29 PM #4:	My speed tests back when 3g was still a thing was that the speeds were about the same as 1.5 Mbps ADSL That's much faster than dial up but still excruciatingly slow. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:910192315] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote>My speed tests back when 3g was still a thing was that the speeds were about the same as 1.5 Mbps ADSL That's much faster than dial up but still excruciatingly slow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/08/18 6:38:47 PM #5:	Kombucha posted... 4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. My phone has 4G LTE right, but when the signal drops below 1 bar it switches to 3G and it always says the signal is full, but that mode just straight up is unusable. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:910192332] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded.</quote> My phone has 4G LTE right, but when the signal drops below 1 bar it switches to 3G and it always says the signal is full, but that mode just straight up is unusable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/08/18 6:41:13 PM #6:	Kombucha posted... 4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. Disclaimer: I am not a networking professional. "4G" is Wi-Max which is basically cell towers with microwaves LTE is a totally different thing but the speeds are about the same. Qualcomm torpedoed Wi-Max to death by using contract leverage over apple to refuse to adopt it for iPhones in favor of LTE. Guess who makes a lot of LTE antennas... --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:910192462] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. Disclaimer: I am not a networking professional.</quote> "4G" is Wi-Max which is basically cell towers with microwaves LTE is a totally different thing but the speeds are about the same. Qualcomm torpedoed Wi-Max to death by using contract leverage over apple to refuse to adopt it for iPhones in favor of LTE. Guess who makes a lot of LTE antennas...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/08/18 6:43:28 PM #7:	Howl posted... Kombucha posted... 4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. My phone has 4G LTE right, but when the signal drops below 1 bar it switches to 3G and it always says the signal is full, but that mode just straight up is unusable. That's interesting. I'm on AT&T and my options are basically 4G LTE 4G (code for HSPA+ or 3G improved) EDGE Just checked and there's no actual option for 3G as a network preference anymore. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910192591] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded.</quote> My phone has 4G LTE right, but when the signal drops below 1 bar it switches to 3G and it always says the signal is full, but that mode just straight up is unusable.</quote> That's interesting. I'm on AT&T and my options are basically 4G LTE 4G (code for HSPA+ or 3G improved) EDGE Just checked and there's no actual option for 3G as a network preference anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 10/08/18 6:46:32 PM #8:	Tyranthraxus posted... Kombucha posted... 4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. Disclaimer: I am not a networking professional. "4G" is Wi-Max which is basically cell towers with microwaves LTE is a totally different thing but the speeds are about the same. Qualcomm torpedoed Wi-Max to death by using contract leverage over apple to refuse to adopt it for iPhones in favor of LTE. Guess who makes a lot of LTE antennas... I take it Wi-Max didn't mess with regular WiFi bands? Interesting. Usually when there's an event or a lot of people around here I need to jump on 4G to get service, the LTE will be the first to take a hit. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:910192755] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. Disclaimer: I am not a networking professional.</quote> "4G" is Wi-Max which is basically cell towers with microwaves LTE is a totally different thing but the speeds are about the same. Qualcomm torpedoed Wi-Max to death by using contract leverage over apple to refuse to adopt it for iPhones in favor of LTE. Guess who makes a lot of LTE antennas...</quote> I take it Wi-Max didn't mess with regular WiFi bands? Interesting. Usually when there's an event or a lot of people around here I need to jump on 4G to get service, the LTE will be the first to take a hit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 10/08/18 6:47:09 PM #9:	Howl posted... Kombucha posted... 4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. My phone has 4G LTE right, but when the signal drops below 1 bar it switches to 3G and it always says the signal is full, but that mode just straight up is unusable. if you are using android, dial ##4636## to access the phone setting, and set it to 4G only. that way even with low signal it won't switch to 3G. might not available to some providers and brands. --- You have the right to remain silent. anything you post will be misquoted, then be used against you. <cite>Ricemills posted [p:910192786] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded.</quote> My phone has 4G LTE right, but when the signal drops below 1 bar it switches to 3G and it always says the signal is full, but that mode just straight up is unusable.</quote> if you are using android, dial ##4636##* to access the phone setting, and set it to 4G only. that way even with low signal it won't switch to 3G. *might not available to some providers and brands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/08/18 6:53:13 PM #10:	Ricemills posted... Howl posted... Kombucha posted... 4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. My phone has 4G LTE right, but when the signal drops below 1 bar it switches to 3G and it always says the signal is full, but that mode just straight up is unusable. if you are using android, dial ##4636## to access the phone setting, and set it to 4G only. that way even with low signal it won't switch to 3G. might not available to some providers and brands. Cool, thanks I'll find out. Edit: that didn't work. It brings up a menu that says phone information, battery information usage statistics and Wi-Fi information. The phone information tab just brings up a screen that says it's not available with my device. The Wi-Fi tab has menu options that are available but none of them have anything to do with my phone's normal internet connection just wi-fi. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:910193114] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ricemills posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote> 4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. </quote> My phone has 4G LTE right, but when the signal drops below 1 bar it switches to 3G and it always says the signal is full, but that mode just straight up is unusable. </quote> if you are using android, dial ##4636##* to access the phone setting, and set it to 4G only. that way even with low signal it won't switch to 3G. *might not available to some providers and brands.</quote> Cool, thanks I'll find out. Edit: that didn't work. It brings up a menu that says phone information, battery information usage statistics and Wi-Fi information. The phone information tab just brings up a screen that says it's not available with my device. The Wi-Fi tab has menu options that are available but none of them have anything to do with my phone's normal internet connection just wi-fi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CM_Ponch 10/08/18 6:54:39 PM #11:	Tag --- SW-8316-3213-4720 <cite>CM_Ponch posted [p:910193191] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/08/18 7:59:44 PM #12:	Kombucha posted... Tyranthraxus posted... Kombucha posted... 4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. Disclaimer: I am not a networking professional. "4G" is Wi-Max which is basically cell towers with microwaves LTE is a totally different thing but the speeds are about the same. Qualcomm torpedoed Wi-Max to death by using contract leverage over apple to refuse to adopt it for iPhones in favor of LTE. Guess who makes a lot of LTE antennas... I take it Wi-Max didn't mess with regular WiFi bands? Interesting. Usually when there's an event or a lot of people around here I need to jump on 4G to get service, the LTE will be the first to take a hit. It probably does in some way but it uses different frequencies and channels to avoid collision. I think the HSPA+ is just a more advanced 3G https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:910196471] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kombucha posted...</cite> <quote>4G in the US (different from 4G LTE) is just code name for HSPA+ which if I'm not wrong about is just an improved version of 3G. Locally I get 10mbps on it. I haven't been on a legit 3G band in a long time, at least not how it was defined upon release. Most of those were upgraded. Disclaimer: I am not a networking professional.</quote> "4G" is Wi-Max which is basically cell towers with microwaves LTE is a totally different thing but the speeds are about the same. Qualcomm torpedoed Wi-Max to death by using contract leverage over apple to refuse to adopt it for iPhones in favor of LTE. Guess who makes a lot of LTE antennas...</quote> I take it Wi-Max didn't mess with regular WiFi bands? Interesting. Usually when there's an event or a lot of people around here I need to jump on 4G to get service, the LTE will be the first to take a hit.</quote> It probably does in some way but it uses different frequencies and channels to avoid collision. I think the HSPA+ is just a more advanced 3G https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nuffinz0rz 10/08/18 8:03:29 PM #13:	They slow it down because otherwise you'd have no incentive to pay more money to upgrade --- https://imgur.com/SyAXs2q <cite>Nuffinz0rz posted [p:910196678] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote>They slow it down because otherwise you'd have no incentive to pay more money to upgrade</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 10/08/18 8:24:47 PM #15:	Nuffinz0rz posted... They slow it down because otherwise you'd have no incentive to pay more money to upgrade That doesn't make any sense though because I don't think they offer a 3G only plan at all. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:910197863] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nuffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>They slow it down because otherwise you'd have no incentive to pay more money to upgrade</quote> That doesn't make any sense though because I don't think they offer a 3G only plan at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nuffinz0rz 10/09/18 10:52:23 AM #16:	Howl posted... Nuffinz0rz posted... They slow it down because otherwise you'd have no incentive to pay more money to upgrade That doesn't make any sense though because I don't think they offer a 3G only plan at all. Well that's even worse then Now it's either pay more or get NO service, as opposed to pay more or get at least a little service --- https://imgur.com/SyAXs2q <cite>Nuffinz0rz posted [p:910226775] in Why is 3G ... [t:77079923]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nuffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>They slow it down because otherwise you'd have no incentive to pay more money to upgrade</quote> That doesn't make any sense though because I don't think they offer a 3G only plan at all.</quote> Well that's even worse then Now it's either pay more or get NO service, as opposed to pay more or get at least a little service</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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