Current Events > Trump: "Stop and frisk works."

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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/09/18 6:15:31 PM
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White areas generally don't have graffiti on everything, people standing around on the corner, random people walking the streets at night.
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DragonGirlYuki
10/09/18 6:16:30 PM
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How long until someone says statistics are racist.
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Kineth
10/09/18 6:18:46 PM
#55:


DragonGirlYuki posted...
How long until someone says statistics are racist.


You're the one that just said it. Roll your eyes at yourself.
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gatorsPENSbucs
10/09/18 6:20:21 PM
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People instantly think black people when they hear stop and frisk, yet it's the other people that are racist?

Hmmmmmm
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SolKarellen
10/09/18 6:26:24 PM
#57:


No one is denying that voiding our rights and creating a police state would reduce crime.
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P4wn4g3
10/09/18 6:30:37 PM
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SolKarellen posted...
No one is denying that voiding our rights and creating a police state would reduce crime.

Police states have plenty of criminals.
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NinjaWarrior455
10/09/18 6:33:01 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
People instantly think black people when they hear stop and frisk, yet it's the other people that are racist?

Hmmmmmm

This is lazy even by your standards.
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charey
10/09/18 6:40:34 PM
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Stop and Frisk would find some drugs on people, so would breaking into random homes and doing warrentless searches.

Both are banned for good reason, people have a right to privacy.
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CanuckCowboy
10/09/18 6:41:40 PM
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X-Pac_Heat posted...
Just letting the gangbangers run roughshod doesn't work either tho.


Cause if you aren't searching without cause and violating people's basic rights you're clearly doing nothing.

Wtf kinda rationale is that?
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Kineth
10/09/18 6:42:40 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
X-Pac_Heat posted...
Just letting the gangbangers run roughshod doesn't work either tho.


Cause if you aren't searching without cause and violating people's basic rights you're clearly doing nothing.

Wtf kinda rationale is that?


The rationale of the white oppressor.
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ThanksUglyGod
10/09/18 6:44:13 PM
#64:


Gotta admire Trump's dedication to finding the absolute worst positions to take on anything.
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The Great Muta 22
10/09/18 6:44:49 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
White areas generally don't have graffiti on everything, people standing around on the corner, random people walking the streets at night.


Yes they do
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P4wn4g3
10/09/18 6:51:27 PM
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This was his stance during the Kavanaugh hearing too, at least he's consistent
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UnfairRepresent
10/09/18 6:59:23 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Stop and frisk has nothing to do with race, cut it out with the identity politics. You can be against stop and frisk without making up a bunch of nonsense about how it's racist.

I don't like red light cameras, but I'm not going to claim that they're somehow racist.

Red light cameras are not told to stop more black people because black guys cause car crashes

Cops are told to stop black and hispanic people more. And are punished if they don't.


No, they're not. Cops are sent to perform stop and frisks in high crime locations. Sometimes that is black or hispanic neighborhoods, but sometimes it's also white neighborhoods. They go where the crime is, not where a particular race is.

This isn't true at all.

Well okay it is true they go to high crime neighborhoods but they still target black and hispanic men disproprtionately.

Say an area has 24% black population, they will stop and frisk 70% black people.
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DifferentialEquation
10/09/18 7:28:16 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Stop and frisk has nothing to do with race, cut it out with the identity politics. You can be against stop and frisk without making up a bunch of nonsense about how it's racist.

I don't like red light cameras, but I'm not going to claim that they're somehow racist.

Red light cameras are not told to stop more black people because black guys cause car crashes

Cops are told to stop black and hispanic people more. And are punished if they don't.


No, they're not. Cops are sent to perform stop and frisks in high crime locations. Sometimes that is black or hispanic neighborhoods, but sometimes it's also white neighborhoods. They go where the crime is, not where a particular race is.

This isn't true at all.

Well okay it is true they go to high crime neighborhoods but they still target black and hispanic men disproprtionately.

Say an area has 24% black population, they will stop and frisk 70% black people.


My friend who's as white as snow was stopped and frisked.
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FrisbeeDude
10/09/18 7:30:50 PM
#69:


PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
White areas generally don't have graffiti on everything, people standing around on the corner, random people walking the streets at night.


If that's all that's needed to violate the civil rights of groups least likely to fight back, you never considered them your equal to begin with. Just say how you really feel.
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Antifar
10/09/18 7:31:35 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
My friend who's as white as snow was stopped and frisked.

This is what you might call "anecdotal evidence." That a white guy got stopped and frisked is not proof against the data showing minorities are disproportionately the target of these searches:
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/opinion/racial-discrimination-in-stop-and-frisk.html
In about 83 percent of cases, the person stopped was black or Hispanic, even though the two groups accounted for just over half the population.

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DifferentialEquation
10/09/18 7:32:13 PM
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Antifar posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
My friend who's as white as snow was stopped and frisked.

This is what you might call "anecdotal evidence." That a white guy got stopped and frisked is not proof against the data showing minorities are disproportionately the target of these searches:
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/opinion/racial-discrimination-in-stop-and-frisk.html
In about 83 percent of cases, the person stopped was black or Hispanic, even though the two groups accounted for just over half the population.


And in 100% of the cases where my friends was stopped, he was white.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/09/18 8:23:39 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
White areas generally don't have graffiti on everything, people standing around on the corner, random people walking the streets at night.


If that's all that's needed to violate the civil rights of groups least likely to fight back, you never considered them your equal to begin with. Just say how you really feel.

I'm generally apathetic on most issues.

This is just how I see it from experience.

Why are stores and gas stations in the hood closed from 1:00AM to 6:00AM ?

Where the stores and gas stations are open 24/7 in mine.

The minorities in my neighborhood doesn't get stopped.

Like the Chinese guy walking his dog like he does regularly every morning before sunlight.

Then there is the Honduras guy who has some kind of mental disorder.

He starts his walk between 5:00AM and 5:30AM trying to get to Walmart before 6:00AM because he likes to sit and watch people all day.

Sometimes he's seen with a hikers pack and he sleeps in the woods around the area for days.

Now a few neighborhoods down the road they'll stop "anyone" seen after midnight loafering around.
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UnfairRepresent
10/09/18 8:52:27 PM
#73:


DifferentialEquation posted...
Antifar posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
My friend who's as white as snow was stopped and frisked.

This is what you might call "anecdotal evidence." That a white guy got stopped and frisked is not proof against the data showing minorities are disproportionately the target of these searches:
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/opinion/racial-discrimination-in-stop-and-frisk.html
In about 83 percent of cases, the person stopped was black or Hispanic, even though the two groups accounted for just over half the population.


And in 100% of the cases where my friends was stopped, he was white.

Nobody is saying white people or women don't get stopped and frisked.

Do you not know what disparity means?
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TheRealDill2000
10/09/18 8:57:36 PM
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Oh god. I have always been opposed to stop and frisk rules. If Trump is promoting it, I may have to reconsider my stance. He wouldn't back the concept unless it has merit.
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Prestoff
10/09/18 9:02:01 PM
#75:


TheRealDill2000 posted...
Oh god. I have always been opposed to stop and frisk rules. If Trump is promoting it, I may have to reconsider my stance. He wouldn't back the concept unless it has merit.


Okay, I at least can confirm you're a parody account now.
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gatorsPENSbucs
10/09/18 10:32:36 PM
#76:


DifferentialEquation posted...
My friend who's as white as snow was stopped and frisked.

I've had that, been followed while driving, been followed while walking, been singled out in groups, all that shit. Yet with me it's I'm a bad driver, I was probably doing something wrong, it was all my fault, and whatever else. But when it happens to other people you got all these people crying racism. It really is hilarious how sheltered people on this site are.
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Antifar
10/09/18 10:40:34 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
My friend who's as white as snow was stopped and frisked.

I've had that, been followed while driving, been followed while walking, been singled out in groups, all that shit. Yet with me it's I'm a bad driver, I was probably doing something wrong, it was all my fault, and whatever else. But when it happens to other people you got all these people crying racism. It really is hilarious how sheltered people on this site are.

There is a statistical pattern of disproportionate treatment of minorities that doesn't exist for Gamefaqs conservatives.
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Sayoria
10/09/18 10:42:24 PM
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Trump: And I want to be in charge of stopping and frisking Ivanka when she comes into the house. Rawrrrr. ;)
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glitteringfairy
10/09/18 10:45:22 PM
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Sayoria posted...
Trump: And I want to be in charge of stopping and frisking Ivanka when she comes into the house. Rawrrrr. ;)

Haha. Oh damn. HAHAHAHA. That is so original, holy shit.
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ScazarMeltex
10/09/18 10:46:21 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Antifar posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
My friend who's as white as snow was stopped and frisked.

This is what you might call "anecdotal evidence." That a white guy got stopped and frisked is not proof against the data showing minorities are disproportionately the target of these searches:
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/opinion/racial-discrimination-in-stop-and-frisk.html
In about 83 percent of cases, the person stopped was black or Hispanic, even though the two groups accounted for just over half the population.


And in 100% of the cases where my friends was stopped, he was white.

It's almost like your anecdotal evidence has no bearing on overall statistical analysis.
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gatorsPENSbucs
10/09/18 11:32:13 PM
#81:


You guys and these statistics. Go out and actually live.
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cjsdowg
10/10/18 2:47:28 AM
#82:


ScazarMeltex posted...

It's almost like your anecdotal evidence has no bearing on overall statistical analysis.


I have seen a Pattern with this. People are are for these some are break the mold statistically when it comes to these type of things. As if they are just bull shitting so their horrible point of view will not seem so bad.
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Sayoria
10/10/18 2:55:37 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Sayoria posted...
Trump: And I want to be in charge of stopping and frisking Ivanka when she comes into the house. Rawrrrr. ;)

Haha. Oh damn. HAHAHAHA. That is so original, holy shit.


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iPhone_7
10/10/18 3:00:13 AM
#84:


DarkTransient posted...
The left doesn't seriously believe it won't work, they're just afraid that it might reveal a non-gun-ban solution to the gun problem and they won't be able to use shootings to demand gun control anymore.

Well this is a new one
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10/10/18 3:01:34 AM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
This was his stance during the Kavanaugh hearing too, at least he's consistent

Heh
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Sphyx
10/10/18 3:02:59 AM
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Is he talking about fighting crime, or committing sexual assault?
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SuperShake666
10/10/18 3:12:01 AM
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"Where are your papers?" circa 2018.
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Kaliesto
10/10/18 3:29:26 AM
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>_>
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TheRealDill2000
10/10/18 4:03:36 AM
#89:


Sayoria posted...
Trump: And I want to be in charge of stopping and frisking Ivanka when she comes into the house. Rawrrrr. ;)

WTF? This discussion is about the benefits of implementing stop and frisk rules in Chicago, not disrespecting our president with tasteless jokes.
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