Board 8 > A Dance With Dragons Mafia - Topic 12: The Mummer's Farce Is Almost Done

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Shaduln
10/07/18 9:00:01 PM
#201:


masterplum posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Why is this so surprising of a thought?

IfGodCouldDie posted...
If I was a third-party killing role where are the rest of the night kills?

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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:00:36 PM
#202:


ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
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it says to the nature of targeting me including redirection roles would be roleblocked. I followed up with asking about bus driver, lightning rod, and hider if they would get roleblock message
I got a 'yes'

And I call bullshit because I don't believe Suprak would answer that question like that.


im not talking about this anymore

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I don't care which, you or Neab both are cool with me.
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Shaduln
10/07/18 9:01:34 PM
#203:


I mean, he's not talking about it anymore because we're not supposed to talk about host interactions.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:02:06 PM
#204:


Neablis posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Ok, its just conjecture and boils down to mafia did not claim the second shot for any town cred which i know scum vig to do.

We have a ninja who claims to have no abilities. The shot on chris was not seen.

After d1 god was suoer demoralized and flopped around.

Maybe i view it from how i generally see certain roles played.

But its conjecture

You claim to be watcher and that you watched the dead player. You as far as I am concerned you are the only player to visit the best player in the game.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:03:00 PM
#205:


Shaduln posted...
I mean, he's not talking about it anymore because we're not supposed to talk about host interactions.

That's fine but he has said enough to make me believe he is lying.
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Shaduln
10/07/18 9:03:11 PM
#206:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Neablis posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Ok, its just conjecture and boils down to mafia did not claim the second shot for any town cred which i know scum vig to do.

We have a ninja who claims to have no abilities. The shot on chris was not seen.

After d1 god was suoer demoralized and flopped around.

Maybe i view it from how i generally see certain roles played.

But its conjecture

You claim to be watcher and that you watched the dead player. You as far as I am concerned you are the only player to visit the best player in the game.

Yet we haven't had any other watcher/tracker, correct? Even one time? (I'm asking seriously as I might've missed it)
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:03:17 PM
#207:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Neablis posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Ok, its just conjecture and boils down to mafia did not claim the second shot for any town cred which i know scum vig to do.

We have a ninja who claims to have no abilities. The shot on chris was not seen.

After d1 god was suoer demoralized and flopped around.

Maybe i view it from how i generally see certain roles played.

But its conjecture

You claim to be watcher and that you watched the dead player. You as far as I am concerned you are the only player to visit the best player in the game.

On the night he died.
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Shaduln
10/07/18 9:05:45 PM
#208:


Also, IGCD, still no abilities right?
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:05:51 PM
#209:


Shaduln posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Neablis posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Ok, its just conjecture and boils down to mafia did not claim the second shot for any town cred which i know scum vig to do.

We have a ninja who claims to have no abilities. The shot on chris was not seen.

After d1 god was suoer demoralized and flopped around.

Maybe i view it from how i generally see certain roles played.

But its conjecture

You claim to be watcher and that you watched the dead player. You as far as I am concerned you are the only player to visit the best player in the game.

Yet we haven't had any other watcher/tracker, correct? Even one time? (I'm asking seriously as I might've missed it)

No we haven't but me being ninja leads me to believe a watcher tracker claim would be scum. It's like of mafia has a ninja or a godfather or if town has a Miller it's reasonable to meta the opposing faction has something to be countered by it.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:06:44 PM
#210:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Shaduln posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Neablis posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Ok, its just conjecture and boils down to mafia did not claim the second shot for any town cred which i know scum vig to do.

We have a ninja who claims to have no abilities. The shot on chris was not seen.

After d1 god was suoer demoralized and flopped around.

Maybe i view it from how i generally see certain roles played.

But its conjecture

You claim to be watcher and that you watched the dead player. You as far as I am concerned you are the only player to visit the best player in the game.

Yet we haven't had any other watcher/tracker, correct? Even one time? (I'm asking seriously as I might've missed it)

No we haven't but me being ninja leads me to believe a watcher tracker claim would be scum. It's like of mafia has a ninja or a godfather or if town has a Miller it's reasonable to meta the opposing faction has something to be countered by it.

I worded the Miller incorrectly in that scenario but I am pretty sure it's obvious what I meant.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:09:17 PM
#211:


masterplum posted...
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Hmm

I was expecting a vig claim to show up by now which is why I wasnt especially worried that this could be mylo. Granted we are down to Dowolf and Blade still being vig but I think if either of them were vig they would have shot each other by now.

After scare it certainly gets trickier.

I am so torn on god, especially considering that I just got crushed in my last Zero chance this person is town because town is not this terrible read. I think his claim is totally bogus but that doesnt necessarily mean he is scum.

Though actually @IfGodCouldDie could you restate every thing about your role. I dont remember who you claimed to be.

At that point I would really want to look up what the responses to these people were be. I havent done the research necessary to really decide after that. Shad, Dowolf, and Desth all have been kind of there none of them would surprise me.

Blade is the wild card. He is absolutely good enough to be scum here even though I have no read on him, but Im not touching him yet. Plus scare is tunneling him... though that actually possibly makes Blade more likely to be scum if Scare is scum I think, might be a designed ploy

I am penny town ninja.
I don't start the game with any powers but may be able to earn some as the game progresses.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:10:41 PM
#212:


Shaduln posted...
Also, IGCD, still no abilities right?

None yet. Who is apparently holding this girl hostage in the books?
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Shaduln
10/07/18 9:11:05 PM
#213:


I don't understand what would need to happen for you to get powers that hasn't happened.
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masterplum
10/07/18 9:12:13 PM
#214:


Shaduln posted...
masterplum posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Why is this so surprising of a thought?

IfGodCouldDie posted...
If I was a third-party killing role where are the rest of the night kills?


Could be a third party role that doesnt start with night kills.

Not impossible. Let me do some flavor googles
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:13:30 PM
#215:


Shaduln posted...
I don't understand what would need to happen for you to get powers that hasn't happened.

It could have something to do with a specific scum, maybe there is a third party that relates to someone that is responsible to holding penny and tyrion hostage.(I am basing this off what people have said about my character as I have only seen the show and don't remember her nor do I remember Tyrion being in hostage situations.)
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:13:59 PM
#216:


masterplum posted...
Shaduln posted...
masterplum posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Why is this so surprising of a thought?

IfGodCouldDie posted...
If I was a third-party killing role where are the rest of the night kills?


Could be a third party role that doesnt start with night kills.

Not impossible. Let me do some flavor googles

So how would I have killed Chris?
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masterplum
10/07/18 9:14:37 PM
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:14:57 PM
#218:


Be back in a few minutes i am going to switch to PC after I get stuffing on the go.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:16:00 PM
#219:


masterplum posted...
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Penny#A_Dance_with_Dragons

There is nothing here that justifies being a ninja or gaining powers

The way my flavour is written does, it alludes to being so insignificant that no one would notice me.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:16:27 PM
#220:


Anyways brb.
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masterplum
10/07/18 9:17:29 PM
#221:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
masterplum posted...
Shaduln posted...
masterplum posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Why is this so surprising of a thought?

IfGodCouldDie posted...
If I was a third-party killing role where are the rest of the night kills?


Could be a third party role that doesnt start with night kills.

Not impossible. Let me do some flavor googles

So how would I have killed Chris?


Oh I dont think you did. Why would people think that? Chris is always a N1 scum kill.

I just have assumed scum has a second kill they used N1 like every other game. If they had a poisoner we would have seen more deaths by now. Maybe poison doctor was a red herring.
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Shaduln
10/07/18 9:18:57 PM
#222:


Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What

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masterplum
10/07/18 9:19:08 PM
#223:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
masterplum posted...
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Penny#A_Dance_with_Dragons

There is nothing here that justifies being a ninja or gaining powers

The way my flavour is written does, it alludes to being so insignificant that no one would notice me.


But there is no justification whatsoever. I dont buy your claim at all.

Im going to give you one chance to recant your claim and claim your real role.
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masterplum
10/07/18 9:20:09 PM
#224:


Shaduln posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Oh, I ignored the parts I dont agree with and focused on the parts that could make sense.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 9:21:08 PM
#225:


@dowolf @Meow1000

claims please

and plum while you are here claim as well
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ScareChan
10/07/18 9:21:52 PM
#226:


masterplum posted...
Shaduln posted...
Shaduln posted...
Neablis posted...
I believe IGCD is a third party (perhaps) or at the very least is not totally town sided and killed chris. Which means the mafia did not totally believe chris claim.

What


Oh, I ignored the parts I dont agree with and focused on the parts that could make sense.


what is "Things that Spiral does" for 1000 Alex
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masterplum
10/07/18 9:22:36 PM
#227:


By the way, it bothers me that after everyone was so gung-ho about massing, nobody has pushed me to claim. It makes me think I might have been scanned. Usually when people mass I outright refuse because its dumb and a mob chases after me
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ScareChan
10/07/18 9:23:18 PM
#228:


I have asked you twice now though
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:26:17 PM
#229:


masterplum posted...
Oh I dont think you did. Why would people think that? Chris is always a N1 scum kill.

I just have assumed scum has a second kill they used N1 like every other game. If they had a poisoner we would have seen more deaths by now. Maybe poison doctor was a red herring.

Ok, that chain started with Neab claiming to believe that I killed Chris as third party.
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masterplum
10/07/18 9:27:39 PM
#230:


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ScareChan
10/07/18 9:28:39 PM
#231:


I think plum is just ignoring me now

can someone else ask him to claim
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Shaduln
10/07/18 9:30:05 PM
#232:


Hey plum you should claim too.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:30:07 PM
#233:


masterplum posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
masterplum posted...
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Penny#A_Dance_with_Dragons

There is nothing here that justifies being a ninja or gaining powers

The way my flavour is written does, it alludes to being so insignificant that no one would notice me.


But there is no justification whatsoever. I dont buy your claim at all.

Im going to give you one chance to recant your claim and claim your real role.

That's it. I am Penny, Town ninja. I am not Corrik, I don't have a shit ton of claims up my sleeve. I originally claimed vanilla because I know I wouldn't be seen going anywhere if I did get powers, but when it again looked like I was going to be lynched I decided to reveal I was actually ninja so I could express my distrust of any future watcher/tracker claims. I even mentioned how I had it on good authority that tracker/watcher claims could likely be scum when Miz faked his track or whatever on Pirate.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:31:13 PM
#234:


ScareChan posted...
I think plum is just ignoring me now

can someone else ask him to claim

Shaduln posted...
Hey plum you should claim too.

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Suprak the Stud
10/07/18 9:32:01 PM
#235:


One Two, Buckle My Votals:
[1] Scare - (IGCD), (plum), IGCD
[1] dowolf - Death
[0] Blade - (Scare)

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch! Day ends at 10 PM CST tomorrow!
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Meow1000
10/07/18 9:32:27 PM
#236:


Are we mass claiming
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ScareChan
10/07/18 9:32:54 PM
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ScareChan
10/07/18 9:33:04 PM
#238:


just you, dowolf, and plum need to claim still
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Meow1000
10/07/18 9:34:00 PM
#239:


Wait you people have let Dowolf go this long without claiming wtf is wrong with you
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:35:03 PM
#240:


Meow1000 posted...
Wait you people have let Dowolf go this long without claiming wtf is wrong with you

His activity is pretty spotty, i't hard to engage with a player that is not here as often as everyone else.
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ScareChan
10/07/18 9:36:07 PM
#241:


ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
it says to the nature of targeting me including redirection roles would be roleblocked. I followed up with asking about bus driver, lightning rod, and hider if they would get roleblock message
I got a 'yes'

And I call bullshit because I don't believe Suprak would answer that question like that.


im not talking about this anymore


so still not talking about this

but uh

I may be an idiot, and you may be right and I fucked up

BUT I still think miz was dieing yesterday regardless of the roleblock situation
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ScareChan
10/07/18 9:36:50 PM
#242:


blade like read the day its not that much
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Meow1000
10/07/18 9:36:57 PM
#243:


MZero isn't even worth the effort to talk about anymore.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:37:06 PM
#244:


ScareChan posted...
ScareChan posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
ScareChan posted...
it says to the nature of targeting me including redirection roles would be roleblocked. I followed up with asking about bus driver, lightning rod, and hider if they would get roleblock message
I got a 'yes'

And I call bullshit because I don't believe Suprak would answer that question like that.


im not talking about this anymore


so still not talking about this

but uh

I may be an idiot, and you may be right and I fucked up

BUT I still think miz was dieing yesterday regardless of the roleblock situation

<insert MGS spotted noise>
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ScareChan
10/07/18 9:38:10 PM
#245:


can we just call me an idiot and move on please
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Meow1000
10/07/18 9:38:36 PM
#246:


ScareChan posted...
blade like read the day its not that much

I did assume we'd have a mass today. Have you done something other than wifom me being alive that's worth reading
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Neablis
10/07/18 9:38:50 PM
#247:


Eh idk if i even believe it really idk how it works here usually our third parties have other win conditions like kill a certain role and a limited number of night kills.

So im just probably thinking about it in the wrong mindset tbh
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Meow1000
10/07/18 9:38:53 PM
#248:


ScareChan posted...
can we just call me an idiot and move on please

"Oh"
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Meow1000
10/07/18 9:39:38 PM
#249:


Neablis posted...
Eh idk if i even believe it really idk how it works here usually our third parties have other win conditions like kill a certain role and a limited number of night kills.

So im just probably thinking about it in the wrong mindset tbh

What
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IfGodCouldDie
10/07/18 9:40:09 PM
#250:


Meow1000 posted...
ScareChan posted...
blade like read the day its not that much

I did assume we'd have a mass today. Have you done something other than wifom me being alive that's worth reading

He just admitted to lying about host interactions to justify not making an attempt to clear up Miz's roleblock message yesterday.
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