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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:06:54 PM
#252:


Alpha218 posted...
Im bored at work and its amusing


What are your thoughts on Karl Marx?
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:07:29 PM
#253:


Coffeebeanz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Proudclad likes to pretend socialism and communism are the same thing


there is no meaningful difference


Yes there is, stop Dunning-Kruger-ing this up


What do you think is the meaningful difference?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/03/18 1:07:46 PM
#254:


Hey fluffy, what are you more terrified of? Double-communism or super-communism?
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Tappor
10/03/18 1:07:47 PM
#255:


I saw the list on page 2.

TC, don't you think you might be a little obsessed
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Jacques-Arc
10/03/18 1:08:02 PM
#256:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Im bored at work and its amusing


What are your thoughts on Karl Marx?


ProudClad thinks that Karl Marx is a gay Mexican immigrant ISIS soldier
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Coffeebeanz
10/03/18 1:08:53 PM
#257:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Proudclad likes to pretend socialism and communism are the same thing


there is no meaningful difference


Yes there is, stop Dunning-Kruger-ing this up


What do you think is the meaningful difference?


Because one is a system of economic policy reforms, and the other is an actual economic structure with central government control and ownership.

You can actually have a socialism with only private businesses and minimal government oversight.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:10:16 PM
#259:


Coffeebeanz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Proudclad likes to pretend socialism and communism are the same thing


there is no meaningful difference


Yes there is, stop Dunning-Kruger-ing this up


What do you think is the meaningful difference?


Because one is a system of economic policy reforms, and the other is an actual economic structure with central government control and ownership.

You can actually have a socialism with only private businesses and minimal government oversight.


uh what
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Alpha218
10/03/18 1:10:54 PM
#260:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Im bored at work and its amusing


What are your thoughts on Karl Marx?

Why do you ask. Youve already passed your judgement on me. I think communism is a shit system like many other people on this board do. It is not the same thing as socialism though. I think capitalism with some elements of socialism can coexist together.

Btw I work at a bank. I dont hate capitalism or want the system to come crashing down or anything. I am a part of the system. I make a living off of the system. I just want it to work better for everyone instead of having all of the wealth and power concentrated in the hands of the extremely rich.
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gunplagirl
10/03/18 1:11:05 PM
#261:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Doom_Art posted...
I have nothing against communism or socialism tbh


read The Gulag Archipelago and the Black Book of Communism and Kapital then.

90 to 100 million dead in the 20th century (and hundreds of millions more displaced and trapped in poverty) is plenty to have against those vile ideologies


1 in 4 Americans will struggle with prolonged hunger this year

What's 1/4 of the US population and how many people are billionaires?
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thelovefist
10/03/18 1:11:39 PM
#263:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Proudclad likes to pretend socialism and communism are the same thing


there is no meaningful difference


Yes there is, stop Dunning-Kruger-ing this up


What do you think is the meaningful difference?


Because one is a system of economic policy reforms, and the other is an actual economic structure with central government control and ownership.

You can actually have a socialism with only private businesses and minimal government oversight.


uh what

I know. Reading is hard sometimes isn't it?
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:12:01 PM
#264:


Alpha218 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Im bored at work and its amusing


What are your thoughts on Karl Marx?

Why do you ask. Youve already passed your judgement on me. I think communism is a shit system like many other people on this board do. It is not the same thing as socialism though. I think capitalism with some elements of socialism can coexist together.

Btw I work at a bank. I dont hate capitalism or want the system to come crashing down or anything. I am a part of the system. I make a living off of the system. I just want it to work better for everyone instead of having all of the wealth and power concentrated in the hands of the extremely rich.


And do you realize that most of the people I've tagged as commies are actually commies?
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Coffeebeanz
10/03/18 1:12:32 PM
#265:


PC, I don't like communism any more than you do, but at least I know what it is.
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ThePieReborn
10/03/18 1:12:44 PM
#266:


No, not really.
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Alpha218
10/03/18 1:13:16 PM
#267:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Im bored at work and its amusing


What are your thoughts on Karl Marx?

Why do you ask. Youve already passed your judgement on me. I think communism is a shit system like many other people on this board do. It is not the same thing as socialism though. I think capitalism with some elements of socialism can coexist together.

Btw I work at a bank. I dont hate capitalism or want the system to come crashing down or anything. I am a part of the system. I make a living off of the system. I just want it to work better for everyone instead of having all of the wealth and power concentrated in the hands of the extremely rich.


And do you realize that most of the people I've tagged as commies are actually commies?

I honestly dont recognize 90% of the names so it doesnt matter to me if they are or not. Since I cant make the distinction myself. All I know is you say communism and socialism are the same thing which they are not.
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FL81
10/03/18 1:13:23 PM
#268:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Hey fluffy, what are you more terrified of? Double-communism or super-communism?

Space Communism is the scariest tbh
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:13:44 PM
#269:


gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Doom_Art posted...
I have nothing against communism or socialism tbh


read The Gulag Archipelago and the Black Book of Communism and Kapital then.

90 to 100 million dead in the 20th century (and hundreds of millions more displaced and trapped in poverty) is plenty to have against those vile ideologies


1 in 4 Americans will struggle with prolonged hunger this year

What's 1/4 of the US population and how many people are billionaires?


Source on the stat about prolonged hunger?

Thoughts on the # of Americans who are millionaires or have a net worth above $250,000?

How will communism, given its abysmal track record thus far, solve hunger without simply making everyone equally starving?
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:14:18 PM
#270:


Coffeebeanz posted...
PC, I don't like communism any more than you do, but at least I know what it is.


You literally don't. Ask Godnorgosh if your definitions are correct lmao.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/03/18 1:15:36 PM
#271:


FL81 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Hey fluffy, what are you more terrified of? Double-communism or super-communism?

Space Communism is the scariest tbh


He isn't answering my question. I believe this topic is just a distraction. He is actually himself is quite possibly the leader of the entire communist movement... or he is crab people.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:15:52 PM
#272:


Alpha218 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Im bored at work and its amusing


What are your thoughts on Karl Marx?

Why do you ask. Youve already passed your judgement on me. I think communism is a shit system like many other people on this board do. It is not the same thing as socialism though. I think capitalism with some elements of socialism can coexist together.

Btw I work at a bank. I dont hate capitalism or want the system to come crashing down or anything. I am a part of the system. I make a living off of the system. I just want it to work better for everyone instead of having all of the wealth and power concentrated in the hands of the extremely rich.


And do you realize that most of the people I've tagged as commies are actually commies?

I honestly dont recognize 90% of the names so it doesnt matter to me if they are or not. Since I cant make the distinction myself. All I know is you say communism and socialism are the same thing which they are not.


It's too long a topic to sum up via my phone, but the general idea is that there is no meaningful difference.

The socialists in the Soviet Union, Romania, etc, were desperately working on implementing communism. The two ideologies both stem from a Marxist interpretation of reality and ultimately go hand in hand.
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ThePieReborn
10/03/18 1:16:23 PM
#274:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
FL81 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Hey fluffy, what are you more terrified of? Double-communism or super-communism?

Space Communism is the scariest tbh


He isn't answering my question. I believe this topic is just a distraction. He is actually himself is quite possibly the leader of the entire communist movement... or he is crab people.

We're through the looking glass, people.
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thelovefist
10/03/18 1:16:41 PM
#275:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
PC, I don't like communism any more than you do, but at least I know what it is.


You literally don't. Ask Godnorgosh if your definitions are correct lmao.

You're literally embarrassing yourself at this point.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/03/18 1:17:35 PM
#276:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Doom_Art posted...
I have nothing against communism or socialism tbh


read The Gulag Archipelago and the Black Book of Communism and Kapital then.

90 to 100 million dead in the 20th century (and hundreds of millions more displaced and trapped in poverty) is plenty to have against those vile ideologies


1 in 4 Americans will struggle with prolonged hunger this year

What's 1/4 of the US population and how many people are billionaires?


Source on the stat about prolonged hunger?

Thoughts on the # of Americans who are millionaires or have a net worth above $250,000?

How will space communism, given its abysmal track record thus far, solve hunger without simply making everyone equally starving?


Simple... there is extra food in space.
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Tmaster148
10/03/18 1:17:39 PM
#277:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
FL81 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Hey fluffy, what are you more terrified of? Double-communism or super-communism?

Space Communism is the scariest tbh


He isn't answering my question. I believe this topic is just a distraction. He is actually himself is quite possibly the leader of the entire communist movement... or he is crab people.


Proudclad projecting his issues on to other users would explain so much.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:18:10 PM
#278:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Doom_Art posted...
I have nothing against communism or socialism tbh


read The Gulag Archipelago and the Black Book of Communism and Kapital then.

90 to 100 million dead in the 20th century (and hundreds of millions more displaced and trapped in poverty) is plenty to have against those vile ideologies


1 in 4 Americans will struggle with prolonged hunger this year

What's 1/4 of the US population and how many people are billionaires?


Source on the stat about prolonged hunger?

Thoughts on the # of Americans who are millionaires or have a net worth above $250,000?

How will space communism, given its abysmal track record thus far, solve hunger without simply making everyone equally starving?


Simple... there is extra food in space.


So that's why Stalin was a fan of fully automated luxury gay space communism.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/03/18 1:23:05 PM
#279:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Doom_Art posted...
I have nothing against communism or socialism tbh


read The Gulag Archipelago and the Black Book of Communism and Kapital then.

90 to 100 million dead in the 20th century (and hundreds of millions more displaced and trapped in poverty) is plenty to have against those vile ideologies


1 in 4 Americans will struggle with prolonged hunger this year

What's 1/4 of the US population and how many people are billionaires?


Source on the stat about prolonged hunger?

Thoughts on the # of Americans who are millionaires or have a net worth above $250,000?

How will space communism, given its abysmal track record thus far, solve hunger without simply making everyone equally starving?


Simple... there is extra food in space.


So that's why Stalin was a fan of fully automated luxury gay space communism.


If you're looking to learn more about Stalin, comrade, I would recommend watching the season 2 finale of the award-winning youtube series "Epic Rap Battles of History"
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:24:03 PM
#280:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Doom_Art posted...
I have nothing against communism or socialism tbh


read The Gulag Archipelago and the Black Book of Communism and Kapital then.

90 to 100 million dead in the 20th century (and hundreds of millions more displaced and trapped in poverty) is plenty to have against those vile ideologies


1 in 4 Americans will struggle with prolonged hunger this year

What's 1/4 of the US population and how many people are billionaires?


Source on the stat about prolonged hunger?

Thoughts on the # of Americans who are millionaires or have a net worth above $250,000?

How will space communism, given its abysmal track record thus far, solve hunger without simply making everyone equally starving?


Simple... there is extra food in space.


So that's why Stalin was a fan of fully automated luxury gay space communism.


If you're looking to learn more about Stalin, comrade, I would recommend watching the season 2 finale of the award-winning youtube series "Epic Rap Battles of History"


Has that content been tagged as Party Approved hy our esteemed comrade averagejoel?
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Reiss
10/03/18 1:24:40 PM
#281:


how the fuck did this topic gain like 150 posts in 2 hours
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/03/18 1:25:40 PM
#282:


Probably? I'm not sure if he in particular has been voting in pioverlord's best ERB contest, but if so, the answer is yes.
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Axiom
10/03/18 1:26:21 PM
#283:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
PC, I don't like communism any more than you do, but at least I know what it is.


You literally don't. Ask Godnorgosh if your definitions are correct lmao.

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ImaAskYouOut
10/03/18 1:28:26 PM
#284:


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Anteaterking
10/03/18 1:28:31 PM
#285:


Proudclad, quantify your concern.

Anteaterking posted...
What percent of your current income would you wager that any of them will commit a terrorist attack in the next five years?

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gunplagirl
10/03/18 1:30:35 PM
#286:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
gunplagirl posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Doom_Art posted...
I have nothing against communism or socialism tbh


read The Gulag Archipelago and the Black Book of Communism and Kapital then.

90 to 100 million dead in the 20th century (and hundreds of millions more displaced and trapped in poverty) is plenty to have against those vile ideologies


1 in 4 Americans will struggle with prolonged hunger this year

What's 1/4 of the US population and how many people are billionaires?


Source on the stat about prolonged hunger?

Thoughts on the # of Americans who are millionaires or have a net worth above $250,000?

How will communism, given its abysmal track record thus far, solve hunger without simply making everyone equally starving?


I'll find a source but I'll answer the stuff first

$250,000 as in, they've that much in their savings and investments, properties not included? Or do you also mean to include people own a car and house because those people would have at least $100,000 in basically any part of the US. The latter isn't even noteworthy. The former still isn't necessarily that bad. But as far as millionaires go, there's no excuse for there being hundreds of them while the average American family is one medical issue and a half month of missed work away from financial ruin. Heck, Amazon just raised their minimum wage to $15 everywhere. Major corporations have the money to do so without affecting their bottom line as they're already going to acquire surplus value that is generated by the workers. Rather, most of them only got to be multi billion dollar corporations because they grew by extracting the rightful value that should have been afforded to the workers from the beginning.

And are we including or excluding the communist countries that had embargoes placed upon them in retaliation for their economic policies? How about the ones that had capitalist farmers and the like intentionally sabotage their farms and already harvested crops in order to prevent the new regime from being able to continue supplying the citizens with food?
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:31:08 PM
#287:


Ah yes, Axiom in with "b-b-but it wasnt REAL communism" hot take
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Nikra
10/03/18 1:33:23 PM
#289:


I'm on the list. LMFAO
It's like Trumps paranoid attitude:
If you're not with me. You're against me.
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thelovefist
10/03/18 1:34:30 PM
#290:


gunplagirl posted...
I'll find a source


Lol no you won't.
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Axiom
10/03/18 1:39:05 PM
#291:


Nikra posted...
I'm on the list? LMFAO
It's like Trumps paranoid attitude:
If you're not with me. You're against me.

It's ok comrade. We're all in this together. That's what being a commie is all about. The bourgeoisie will never keep us down

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gunplagirl
10/03/18 1:40:48 PM
#292:


thelovefist posted...
gunplagirl posted...
I'll find a source


Lol no you won't.

Willing to make an account bet on that?
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Alpha218
10/03/18 1:41:59 PM
#293:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Ah yes, Axiom in with "b-b-but it wasnt REAL communism" hot take

USSR was fucking communist idk how any of them can even dispute that.

I dislike communists and the extreme far left because they try to pull purity tests on anyone that doesnt fit their fringe views. Instead of working incrementally towards their goals theyd rather scream about burning it all down when they dont get what they want.

Its not even worth arguing with them though. Ive fought enough with that type on reddit after they cried bloody murder when Bernie lost the primary and said they were going to vote for Jill Stein or not at all instead of for Hillary. Theyd rather have Trump win than slowly move closer to the goals they want.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:43:57 PM
#294:


gunplagirl posted...
$250,000 as in, they've that much in their savings and investments, properties not included? Or do you also mean to include people own a car and house because those people would have at least $100,000 in basically any part of the US. The latter isn't even noteworthy. The former still isn't necessarily that bad.


So you think having $250,000 or more in savings/investments is bad? Why?

gunplagirl posted...
But as far as millionaires go, there's no excuse for there being hundreds of them while the average American family is one medical issue and a half month of missed work away from financial ruin.


So because some people make poor financial decisions or need a safety net, we should fuck over the millions of people who earned $250,000 or million dollar net worths? There's 11 million millionaires in America, with many more millions who are at $250,000 or more and growing.

gunplagirl posted...
And are we including or excluding the communist countries that had embargoes placed upon them in retaliation for their economic policies? How about the ones that had capitalist farmers and the like intentionally sabotage their farms and already harvested crops in order to prevent the new regime from being able to continue supplying the citizens with food?


This is at best propaganda and at worst an intentional lie about why communism collapses. When entire industries are nationalized and when private property is seized and redistributed, you end up collapsing the economy because of inefficiencies introduced into the system.

Places like Romania collapsed simply because of what communism does when it's played out over the long run. Had nothing to do with capitalists sabotaging anything lmao. Agricultural output collapsed due to the long-term consequences of nationalizing agriculture.
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:44:30 PM
#295:


Alpha218 posted...
USSR was fucking communist idk how any of them can even dispute that.


Ready to have your mind blown?

They dispute that because they are communists who want us to try communism again.
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Nikra
10/03/18 1:44:50 PM
#296:


Axiom posted...
Nikra posted...
I'm on the list? LMFAO
It's like Trumps paranoid attitude:
If you're not with me. You're against me.

It's ok comrade. We're all in this together. That's what being a commie is all about. The bourgeoisie will never keep us down

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Jacques-Arc
10/03/18 1:44:51 PM
#297:


Lol, nobody has any respect for ProudClad.
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Coffeebeanz
10/03/18 1:45:46 PM
#298:


Most socialists hate Communism as well.

Fun fact, PC - The anti-Communism allegorical book Animal Farm? George Orwell was a socialist.
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Zodd3224
10/03/18 1:46:04 PM
#299:


I hope this is shitposting
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Balrog0
10/03/18 1:46:07 PM
#300:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Agricultural output collapsed due to the long-term consequences of nationalizing agriculture.


averagejoel - the holodomor was not stalin's fault, he can't control the weather
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FLUFFYGERM
10/03/18 1:47:41 PM
#301:


Coffeebeanz posted...
Most socialists hate Communism as well.

Fun fact, PC - The anti-Communism allegorical book Animal Farm? George Orwell was a socialist.


Orwell was what we call a social democrat. IE much closer to what you see in the Scandinavian countries than what you saw in Soviet Russia or here on CE.
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