Current Events > Young people with very unrealistic job expectations

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I seem to have these types of conversations all the time:

- "I went for an interview for a supervisor role at H&M, it was honestly too simple. Really what I'm interested in is events project management."

Or

- "Yeah I'm studying psychology. I plan to have my own practise when I graduate. "

The first example is someone I know who's only ever worked retail jobs, never finished school. The second ended up becoming a recruitment consultant.

That second one also once said to me "The trouble with being a psychology student is it's hard to be angry at anyone because you intuitively understand the reasons for their bad behaviour".

I don't want to be the one to break it to them that being given a supervisor position in a store or studying a degree with limited real world application isn't exactly gracing your CV with boundless opportunities
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it's funny when you get to the point where you can realize in all truth that someone young (i'd roughly say, sub-25) really has no idea what they're talking about
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The Trent posted...

it's funny when you get to the point where you can realize in all truth that someone young (i'd roughly say, sub-25) really has no idea what they're talking about

yea it's really funny talking to college kids or people fresh out of college talk about jobs & careers, they really have no idea wtf they are saying but are often really confident about it.

what i have realized is that a lot of younger ppl are excited to get started but dont want to have to suffer a bit in the beginning to get established. unfortunately if you arent super motivated, a top student, or very well connected, you really have to hustle hard to get to where you want to be. it's a hard pill to swallow because the last 22 years of your life are spent being motivated by people
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This is what happens when you have a school system that doesn't prepare kids for real life
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green butter posted...

younger ppl are excited to get started but dont want to have to suffer a bit in the beginning to get established.

this is the crux of where things break down imo
because no one should ever have to suffer, right? it's clearly just a pure bad.
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Highwind07 posted...

Back in my early 20s there were a few in my class that expected to land in a high level management position out of college but they didn't know things like how to write a resume or the fact that you needed more than good grades.

In my last agency we had this kid who came in fresh out of uni with a masters in Marketing for a paid internship at our agency. Truth is that's a profession where there's very little to actually learn on a deep theoretical level like what you would study in school. It takes a certain kind of mindset and personality and experience working in an agency environment, that's it.

So this kid comes in full of grand ideas about how to make the next big Nike ad but didn't know the first thing about how to talk to a client, how to set up a meeting, how to really do anything involved in day-to-day office work. Apparently 6 years or whatever at uni taught him less than what could be learned in 4 months on the job. He was shocked to find out that for the most part he would just be doing spreadsheets and copywriting for the cafe down the road until he learned how to talk to someone coherently on the phone. He was even more shocked to find out that the work wasn't like Mad Men where you sit around in a board room talking about amazing high level marketing concepts all the time but really just spend your day disappointing clients.
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Idk a psychology degree doesn't really seem super limiting to me
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scar the 1 posted...

Idk a psychology degree doesn't really seem super limiting to me

It's not super limiting but a bachelors in psychology doesn't get you a tasteful mahogany office where you sit gracefully on a wingback chair while expensive people come in to talk about their deep rooted serial killer urges, as is the expectation of a lot of 1st year psychology students
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Oh yeah sure. In my country, psychology is a prestigious degree because you become a psychologist. Completely different from just an academic degree.
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probably cause college doesn't do a good job of preparing you for the real world job market. You spend tons of money to go to a lot of classes that have nothing to do with whatever job industry you're interested in and graduate with a fancy piece of paper that nobody cares about because you don't have any actual work experience
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Im gonna get a masters degree in electrical engineering in 2 months but no one will hire me cause no experience

just gonna join the army tbh
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scar the 1 posted...

Idk a psychology degree doesn't really seem super limiting to me

It is if you stop at a bachelor's. Having a master's or PhD opens a ton of doors in that field; bachelor's not so much.

Also internships help but they don't seem too popular since nobody wants to deal with shit work cus "I'm in college, give that to the interns..wait."
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scar the 1 posted...

Oh yeah sure. In my country, psychology is a prestigious degree because you become a psychologist. Completely different from just an academic degree.

same.

the average psychologist here charge $155~ per hour/session(read = 45 mins).

also, i was referred to a psychiatrist(yay universal healthcare) who apparently charge per 30 mins and talked to them for about 45 mins and the price came out to like $217~... the hayle
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Yeah I have a BA in Political Science and I am actually the campaign manager for a state legislative candidate but I'm working on my MS in the same field because I actually want to become something, maybe an academic or something similar