Current Events > If everyone could stop calling a credible rape victim a liar that'd be great

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Dragonblade01 posted...

Oh my god.

Yes, testimony is a form of evidence.

That doesn't make it conclusive.

This. It's shitty evidence that can't prove anything without other evidence to back it up.
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gmanthebest posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Oh my god.

Yes, testimony is a form of evidence.

That doesn't make it conclusive.

This. It's shitty evidence that can't prove anything without other evidence to back it up.

All it takes is one conflicting testimony to refute the "evidence" of the first.

Which is why testimonies arent exactly going to win over the judge or jury.
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chrono625 posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Oh my god.

Yes, testimony is a form of evidence.

That doesn't make it conclusive.

This. It's shitty evidence that can't prove anything without other evidence to back it up.

All it takes is one conflicting testimony to refute the "evidence" of the first.

Which is why testimonies arent exactly going to win over the judge or jury.

Another person who doesn't know what evidence is.
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ledbowman posted...

chrono625 posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Oh my god.

Yes, testimony is a form of evidence.

That doesn't make it conclusive.

This. It's shitty evidence that can't prove anything without other evidence to back it up.

All it takes is one conflicting testimony to refute the "evidence" of the first.

Which is why testimonies arent exactly going to win over the judge or jury.

Another person who doesn't know what evidence is.

Ok, so you're saying that her testimony is evidence. This whole quote block, we're agreeing that it's evidence, just that it's terrible evidence.
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gmanthebest posted...

ledbowman posted...

chrono625 posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Oh my god.

Yes, testimony is a form of evidence.

That doesn't make it conclusive.

This. It's shitty evidence that can't prove anything without other evidence to back it up.

All it takes is one conflicting testimony to refute the "evidence" of the first.

Which is why testimonies arent exactly going to win over the judge or jury.

Another person who doesn't know what evidence is.

Ok, so you're saying that her testimony is evidence. This whole quote block, we're agreeing that it's evidence, just that it's terrible evidence.

You have a strange use of quotes then.
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Has apologist bingo been posted yet? Willing to bet we have a couple bingos by now


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Rape apologist? Are you fucking kidding me? Defending the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty makes you a fucking rape apologist?

That's some real fascist bullshit.
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People who question rape victims are pieces of human shit caught between other CEmens ass cheeks.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Rape apologist? Are you fucking kidding me? Defending the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty makes you a fucking rape apologist?

That's some real fascist bullshit.

You literally think it's wrong to think he did it.
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We don't have enough concrete facts to know who is actually telling the truth.

That's what I think. That's also fact.

And yes, that does mean there's a very real possibility it did happen. But in a just society, we assume innocence until proven otherwise.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

We don't have enough concrete facts to know who is actually telling the truth.

That's what I think. That's also fact.

And yes, that does mean there's a very real possibility it did happen. But in a just society, we assume innocence until proven otherwise.

You can still hold beliefs based on the evidence.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

We don't have enough concrete facts to know who is actually telling the truth.

That's what I think. That's also fact.

And yes, that does mean there's a very real possibility it did happen. But in a just society, we assume innocence until proven otherwise.

In a court case, yes. In a job interview for a lifetime position on the highest court in the land? Fuck no. Pick someone who's not a possible rapist.
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ledbowman posted...

gmanthebest posted...

ledbowman posted...

chrono625 posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Oh my god.

Yes, testimony is a form of evidence.

That doesn't make it conclusive.

This. It's shitty evidence that can't prove anything without other evidence to back it up.

All it takes is one conflicting testimony to refute the "evidence" of the first.

Which is why testimonies arent exactly going to win over the judge or jury.

Another person who doesn't know what evidence is.

Ok, so you're saying that her testimony is evidence. This whole quote block, we're agreeing that it's evidence, just that it's terrible evidence.

You have a strange use of quotes then.

Are you blind? All we're saying is that testimonies are flimsy evidence (which it is). Literally no one in this quote block has said otherwise.
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gmanthebest posted...

ledbowman posted...

gmanthebest posted...

ledbowman posted...

chrono625 posted...

gmanthebest posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Oh my god.

Yes, testimony is a form of evidence.

That doesn't make it conclusive.

This. It's shitty evidence that can't prove anything without other evidence to back it up.

All it takes is one conflicting testimony to refute the "evidence" of the first.

Which is why testimonies arent exactly going to win over the judge or jury.

Another person who doesn't know what evidence is.

Ok, so you're saying that her testimony is evidence. This whole quote block, we're agreeing that it's evidence, just that it's terrible evidence.

You have a strange use of quotes then.

Are you blind? All we're saying is that testimonies are flimsy evidence (which it is). Literally no one in this quote block has said otherwise.

You know that putting evidence in quotes could signal that you don't consider it evidence. You fucked up. It's not a big deal though.
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ledbowman posted...

You know that putting evidence in quotes could signal that you don't consider it evidence. You fucked up. It's not a big deal though.

It COULD signal that you don't consider it evidence, or it could not. Either way, end of the day, testimonies are flimsy at best if they're not supported by physical evidence.

At least I'm not trying to say that a testimony is enough to make up a decision. Now THAT would be a fuck up.
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gmanthebest posted...

ledbowman posted...

You know that putting evidence in quotes could signal that you don't consider it evidence. You fucked up. It's not a big deal though.

It COULD signal that you don't consider it evidence, or it could not. Either way, end of the day, testimonies are flimsy at best if they're not supported by physical evidence.

At least I'm not trying to say that a testimony is enough to make up a decision. Now THAT would be a fuck up.

There is other evidence to go along with the testimony.
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ledbowman posted...

Ford says she did not talk about the allegations with anyone until 2012

Actually she said that she talked about it before then. That's just the earliest date that the doctor wrote it down in his/her notes.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

We don't have enough concrete facts to know who is actually telling the truth.

No, but we do know who has answered questions honestly and to the best of their abilities, and we do know who has evaded and ducked questions at every opportunity. Do we have enough evidence to convict someone? No. Do we have enough evidence to see the truth? Well....
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BeyondWalls posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

We don't have enough concrete facts to know who is actually telling the truth.

No, but we do know who has answered questions honestly and to the best of their abilities, and we do know who has evaded and ducked questions at every opportunity. Do we have enough evidence to convict someone? No. Do we have enough evidence to see the truth? Well....

She doesn't believe any evidence exists. She just thinks people believe Ford because they are Democrats.
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southcoast09 posted...

This is one of those loaded topics thats designed to get people suspended.

Was the topic about Ford getting death threats also loaded?
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southcoast09 posted...

This is one of those loaded topics thats designed to get people suspended.

Personal responsibility, everyone...
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ledbowman posted...

gmanthebest posted...

ledbowman posted...

You know that putting evidence in quotes could signal that you don't consider it evidence. You fucked up. It's not a big deal though.

It COULD signal that you don't consider it evidence, or it could not. Either way, end of the day, testimonies are flimsy at best if they're not supported by physical evidence.

At least I'm not trying to say that a testimony is enough to make up a decision. Now THAT would be a fuck up.

There is other evidence to go along with the testimony.

What is the other evidence? Please, lay it all out.
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Ford says she did not talk about the allegations with anyone until 2012, during a couples therapy session with her husband. She provided the Post with notes from therapy sessions in 2012 and 2013 when she described a sexual assault that she experienced while she was in high school.

In these notes Kavanaugh is not named, but Ford describes an attack by students from an elite boys school. These students are now highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington, she said.

Ford also took a polygraph test, which indicated the veracity of her claims. (Its worth noting that the reliability of polygraph tests has been heavily scrutinized in recent years.)

Fords husband confirms, too, that she mentioned the attack in their 2012 therapy sessions. He said he recalled her mentioning Kavanaugh by last name.

Friends of Fords have said shes spoken about the attack and note that theyve witnessed the lasting impact its had on her life. Jim Gensheimer told the Los Angeles Times that Ford discussed her struggle to come forward with him in early July and added that Ford was averse to purchasing a master bedroom that does not have a second exit. Obviously, something happened that traumatized her so much that shes afraid of being trapped, Gensheimer said.

On Wednesday, Ford entered four sworn statements into the record from her husband and three close friends, which show that shes been telling the same story for years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17880490/supreme-court-nominee-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh
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But she wasn't raped and isn't accusing him of rape....
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ledbowman posted...

Ford says she did not talk about the allegations with anyone until 2012, during a couples therapy session with her husband. She provided the Post with notes from therapy sessions in 2012 and 2013 when she described a sexual assault that she experienced while she was in high school.

In these notes Kavanaugh is not named, but Ford describes an attack by students from an elite boys school. These students are now highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington, she said.

Ford also took a polygraph test, which indicated the veracity of her claims. (Its worth noting that the reliability of polygraph tests has been heavily scrutinized in recent years.)

Fords husband confirms, too, that she mentioned the attack in their 2012 therapy sessions. He said he recalled her mentioning Kavanaugh by last name.

Friends of Fords have said shes spoken about the attack and note that theyve witnessed the lasting impact its had on her life. Jim Gensheimer told the Los Angeles Times that Ford discussed her struggle to come forward with him in early July and added that Ford was averse to purchasing a master bedroom that does not have a second exit. Obviously, something happened that traumatized her so much that shes afraid of being trapped, Gensheimer said.

On Wednesday, Ford entered four sworn statements into the record from her husband and three close friends, which show that shes been telling the same story for years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17880490/supreme-court-nominee-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh

I like how you keep leaving out the fact that her story until one week ago never had a name attached to it.
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Dusk_ posted...

But she wasn't raped and isn't accusing him of rape....

Correct. I had 80 characters.
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Though it was still close enough it still had a lot of the same effects as a completed rape
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Ah so were still going to throw an innocent man under the bus over a 35 year old story that cant be proven. Its literally she said, he said, but were still condemning him. Wow the definition of justice has really gone backwards about 300 years...
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scorpion41 posted...

Ah so were still going to throw an innocent man under the bus over a 35 year old story that cant be proven. Its literally she said, he said, but were still condemning him. Wow the definition of justice has really gone backwards about 300 years...

We don't know for certain that he's innocent, not do we know he's guilty. The only reasonable assessment we can make thus far is that we don't have enough facts.
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ledbowman posted...

Ford says she did not talk about the allegations with anyone until 2012, during a couples therapy session with her husband. She provided the Post with notes from therapy sessions in 2012 and 2013 when she described a sexual assault that she experienced while she was in high school.

In these notes Kavanaugh is not named, but Ford describes an attack by students from an elite boys school. These students are now highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington, she said.

Ford also took a polygraph test, which indicated the veracity of her claims. (Its worth noting that the reliability of polygraph tests has been heavily scrutinized in recent years.)

Fords husband confirms, too, that she mentioned the attack in their 2012 therapy sessions. He said he recalled her mentioning Kavanaugh by last name.

Friends of Fords have said shes spoken about the attack and note that theyve witnessed the lasting impact its had on her life. Jim Gensheimer told the Los Angeles Times that Ford discussed her struggle to come forward with him in early July and added that Ford was averse to purchasing a master bedroom that does not have a second exit. Obviously, something happened that traumatized her so much that shes afraid of being trapped, Gensheimer said.

On Wednesday, Ford entered four sworn statements into the record from her husband and three close friends, which show that shes been telling the same story for years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17880490/supreme-court-nominee-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh

"Telling the same story" isn't evidence that the story is true.

If you repeat a lie enough times, does it become truth?
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darkjedilink posted...

ledbowman posted...

Ford says she did not talk about the allegations with anyone until 2012, during a couples therapy session with her husband. She provided the Post with notes from therapy sessions in 2012 and 2013 when she described a sexual assault that she experienced while she was in high school.

In these notes Kavanaugh is not named, but Ford describes an attack by students from an elite boys school. These students are now highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington, she said.

Ford also took a polygraph test, which indicated the veracity of her claims. (Its worth noting that the reliability of polygraph tests has been heavily scrutinized in recent years.)

Fords husband confirms, too, that she mentioned the attack in their 2012 therapy sessions. He said he recalled her mentioning Kavanaugh by last name.

Friends of Fords have said shes spoken about the attack and note that theyve witnessed the lasting impact its had on her life. Jim Gensheimer told the Los Angeles Times that Ford discussed her struggle to come forward with him in early July and added that Ford was averse to purchasing a master bedroom that does not have a second exit. Obviously, something happened that traumatized her so much that shes afraid of being trapped, Gensheimer said.

On Wednesday, Ford entered four sworn statements into the record from her husband and three close friends, which show that shes been telling the same story for years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17880490/supreme-court-nominee-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh

"Telling the same story" isn't evidence that the story is true.

If you repeat a lie enough times, does it become truth?

What makes you think its a lie? I understand the whole not wanting to presume guilt until proven but lets hear the whole thing out.

Plus one of the biggest criticisms to date is that this is politically motivated and a recent lie. Well there is proof that it isnt a recent lie like you said and I doubt theyd have been planning this thing for six years. Doesnt mean its true but Id like to see this through to conclusion either way before passing judgement.
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I think she's being the truth, it's hard for me to watch her testimony and understand people who claim she's definitely lying. But I also acknowledge that in no way is there enough evidence to even charge him with a crime, let alone convict him of one. But we aren't talking about him facing criminal charges, we're determining if he's deserving of a lifetime seat on the Supreme Court, and Id say definitely not. Partially because of these accusations, but mainly because of his response to these accusations. He's showed himself to be incredibly partisan and his testimony was completely reliant on emotion rather than facts which is the opposite of what you'd expect from any judge, let alone one on the supreme Court.

Her story isn't flimsy, the details she doesnt remember are actually proof she isn't lying, cuz if she was she'd just fill in those details, the other winessee not remembering this exact party or these people is again exactly what you'd expect from something that happened 30 years ago. This is why I believe her, everything she's said and remembered is exactly what id expect from her if she were being honest.

As for Kavanaugh, while he did lie a couple times it didn't come off as someone who knew he did something wrong and is trying to get away with it, but rather someone who doesn't believe they did anything wrong and is fudging some answers and dodging some questions because he feels like he truly shouldn't have to face any consequences for something he doesn't remember happening.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

scorpion41 posted...

Ah so were still going to throw an innocent man under the bus over a 35 year old story that cant be proven. Its literally she said, he said, but were still condemning him. Wow the definition of justice has really gone backwards about 300 years...

We don't know for certain that he's innocent, not do we know he's guilty. The only reasonable assessment we can make thus far is that we don't have enough facts.

You can have an opinion either way though, as long as you acknowledge that the opinion you hold could be wrong.
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nicklebro posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

scorpion41 posted...

Ah so were still going to throw an innocent man under the bus over a 35 year old story that cant be proven. Its literally she said, he said, but were still condemning him. Wow the definition of justice has really gone backwards about 300 years...

We don't know for certain that he's innocent, not do we know he's guilty. The only reasonable assessment we can make thus far is that we don't have enough facts.

You can have an opinion either way though, as long as you acknowledge that the opinion you hold could be wrong.

Sure. My actual opinion is that this probably did happen. But I don't want to let my opinions cloud my judgment in situations like this. Admittedly, it's very hard if not impossible to be truly objective.
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ledbowman posted...

Dusk_ posted...

But she wasn't raped and isn't accusing him of rape....

Correct. I had 80 characters.

You could have just left out the word rape. But you didn't. Your credibility is gone now.

Coffeebeanz posted...

Sure. My actual opinion is that this probably did happen. But I don't want to let my opinions cloud my judgment in situations like this. Admittedly, it's very hard if not impossible to be truly objective.

Being objective is overrated, sure it's of course necessary in a court of law and in scientific studies, but that's it. Instincts and intuition are valuable tools that you cannot utilize if you're being completely objective, there are questions you cannot answer while being completely objective because humans are subjective beings.
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darkjedilink posted...

ledbowman posted...

Ford says she did not talk about the allegations with anyone until 2012, during a couples therapy session with her husband. She provided the Post with notes from therapy sessions in 2012 and 2013 when she described a sexual assault that she experienced while she was in high school.

In these notes Kavanaugh is not named, but Ford describes an attack by students from an elite boys school. These students are now highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington, she said.

Ford also took a polygraph test, which indicated the veracity of her claims. (Its worth noting that the reliability of polygraph tests has been heavily scrutinized in recent years.)

Fords husband confirms, too, that she mentioned the attack in their 2012 therapy sessions. He said he recalled her mentioning Kavanaugh by last name.

Friends of Fords have said shes spoken about the attack and note that theyve witnessed the lasting impact its had on her life. Jim Gensheimer told the Los Angeles Times that Ford discussed her struggle to come forward with him in early July and added that Ford was averse to purchasing a master bedroom that does not have a second exit. Obviously, something happened that traumatized her so much that shes afraid of being trapped, Gensheimer said.

On Wednesday, Ford entered four sworn statements into the record from her husband and three close friends, which show that shes been telling the same story for years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17880490/supreme-court-nominee-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh

"Telling the same story" isn't evidence that the story is true.

If you repeat a lie enough times, does it become truth?

Evidence doesn't mean proof. People have explained this to you several times.
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nicklebro posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

Sure. My actual opinion is that this probably did happen. But I don't want to let my opinions cloud my judgment in situations like this. Admittedly, it's very hard if not impossible to be truly objective.

Being objective is overrated, sure it's of course necessary in a court of law and in scientific studies, but that's it. Instincts and intuition are valuable tools that you cannot utilize if you're being completely objective, there are questions you cannot answer while being completely objective because humans are subjective beings.

Um, just because humans can also be
subjective does not mean that subjective methods are also appropriate where we would otherwise use objective methods. That doesn't follow at all.

ledbowman posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ledbowman posted...

Ford says she did not talk about the allegations with anyone until 2012, during a couples therapy session with her husband. She provided the Post with notes from therapy sessions in 2012 and 2013 when she described a sexual assault that she experienced while she was in high school.

In these notes Kavanaugh is not named, but Ford describes an attack by students from an elite boys school. These students are now highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington, she said.

Ford also took a polygraph test, which indicated the veracity of her claims. (Its worth noting that the reliability of polygraph tests has been heavily scrutinized in recent years.)

Fords husband confirms, too, that she mentioned the attack in their 2012 therapy sessions. He said he recalled her mentioning Kavanaugh by last name.

Friends of Fords have said shes spoken about the attack and note that theyve witnessed the lasting impact its had on her life. Jim Gensheimer told the Los Angeles Times that Ford discussed her struggle to come forward with him in early July and added that Ford was averse to purchasing a master bedroom that does not have a second exit. Obviously, something happened that traumatized her so much that shes afraid of being trapped, Gensheimer said.

On Wednesday, Ford entered four sworn statements into the record from her husband and three close friends, which show that shes been telling the same story for years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17880490/supreme-court-nominee-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh

"Telling the same story" isn't evidence that the story is true.

If you repeat a lie enough times, does it become truth?

Evidence doesn't mean proof. People have explained this to you several times.

An accusation cannot be evidence that the accusation is true. Nor can repeating the accusation multiple times.

Why can you not understand this?
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darkjedilink posted...

ledbowman posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ledbowman posted...

Ford says she did not talk about the allegations with anyone until 2012, during a couples therapy session with her husband. She provided the Post with notes from therapy sessions in 2012 and 2013 when she described a sexual assault that she experienced while she was in high school.

In these notes Kavanaugh is not named, but Ford describes an attack by students from an elite boys school. These students are now highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington, she said.

Ford also took a polygraph test, which indicated the veracity of her claims. (Its worth noting that the reliability of polygraph tests has been heavily scrutinized in recent years.)

Fords husband confirms, too, that she mentioned the attack in their 2012 therapy sessions. He said he recalled her mentioning Kavanaugh by last name.

Friends of Fords have said shes spoken about the attack and note that theyve witnessed the lasting impact its had on her life. Jim Gensheimer told the Los Angeles Times that Ford discussed her struggle to come forward with him in early July and added that Ford was averse to purchasing a master bedroom that does not have a second exit. Obviously, something happened that traumatized her so much that shes afraid of being trapped, Gensheimer said.

On Wednesday, Ford entered four sworn statements into the record from her husband and three close friends, which show that shes been telling the same story for years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17880490/supreme-court-nominee-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh

"Telling the same story" isn't evidence that the story is true.

If you repeat a lie enough times, does it become truth?

Evidence doesn't mean proof. People have explained this to you several times.

An accusation cannot be evidence that the accusation is true. Nor can repeating the accusation multiple times.

Why can you not understand this?

I think most people do understand this. Why dont you understand most people do understand? What people dont understand is the point your trying to make. Who are you arguing with exactly?
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It's so weird. Conservatives believe Ford got raped (probably just out of pure self interest, if they flat out called her a liar like they would like to they'd get blasted everywhere), but they just dont think it was Kavanaugh. So a doppleganger rapist. Yet her testimony is pretty strong. And she passed a polygraph test, polygraph test that Kavanaugh refuses to do besides the fact that he previously said that they were useful. Now stating the opposite.

Theres no concrete evidence as of yet, but Kavanaugh is making the same actions that a guilty man would make.
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You can polygraph tests why controlling your anus contractions, ironic
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darkjedilink posted...

ledbowman posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ledbowman posted...

Ford says she did not talk about the allegations with anyone until 2012, during a couples therapy session with her husband. She provided the Post with notes from therapy sessions in 2012 and 2013 when she described a sexual assault that she experienced while she was in high school.

In these notes Kavanaugh is not named, but Ford describes an attack by students from an elite boys school. These students are now highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington, she said.

Ford also took a polygraph test, which indicated the veracity of her claims. (Its worth noting that the reliability of polygraph tests has been heavily scrutinized in recent years.)

Fords husband confirms, too, that she mentioned the attack in their 2012 therapy sessions. He said he recalled her mentioning Kavanaugh by last name.

Friends of Fords have said shes spoken about the attack and note that theyve witnessed the lasting impact its had on her life. Jim Gensheimer told the Los Angeles Times that Ford discussed her struggle to come forward with him in early July and added that Ford was averse to purchasing a master bedroom that does not have a second exit. Obviously, something happened that traumatized her so much that shes afraid of being trapped, Gensheimer said.

On Wednesday, Ford entered four sworn statements into the record from her husband and three close friends, which show that shes been telling the same story for years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17880490/supreme-court-nominee-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh

"Telling the same story" isn't evidence that the story is true.

If you repeat a lie enough times, does it become truth?

Evidence doesn't mean proof. People have explained this to you several times.

An accusation cannot be evidence that the accusation is true. Nor can repeating the accusation multiple times.

Why can you not understand this?

That's not what's happening. Evidence is gathered information used to determine if an accusation is true. We have that. I believe the evidence points to Kavanaugh's guilt.
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ledbowman posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ledbowman posted...

darkjedilink posted...

ledbowman posted...

Ford says she did not talk about the allegations with anyone until 2012, during a couples therapy session with her husband. She provided the Post with notes from therapy sessions in 2012 and 2013 when she described a sexual assault that she experienced while she was in high school.

In these notes Kavanaugh is not named, but Ford describes an attack by students from an elite boys school. These students are now highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington, she said.

Ford also took a polygraph test, which indicated the veracity of her claims. (Its worth noting that the reliability of polygraph tests has been heavily scrutinized in recent years.)

Fords husband confirms, too, that she mentioned the attack in their 2012 therapy sessions. He said he recalled her mentioning Kavanaugh by last name.

Friends of Fords have said shes spoken about the attack and note that theyve witnessed the lasting impact its had on her life. Jim Gensheimer told the Los Angeles Times that Ford discussed her struggle to come forward with him in early July and added that Ford was averse to purchasing a master bedroom that does not have a second exit. Obviously, something happened that traumatized her so much that shes afraid of being trapped, Gensheimer said.

On Wednesday, Ford entered four sworn statements into the record from her husband and three close friends, which show that shes been telling the same story for years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/27/17880490/supreme-court-nominee-christine-blasey-ford-kavanaugh

"Telling the same story" isn't evidence that the story is true.

If you repeat a lie enough times, does it become truth?

Evidence doesn't mean proof. People have explained this to you several times.

An accusation cannot be evidence that the accusation is true. Nor can repeating the accusation multiple times.

Why can you not understand this?

That's not what's happening. Evidence is gathered information used to determine if an accusation is true. We have that. I believe the evidence points to Kavanaugh's guilt.

We don't, actually. Literally nothing has corroborated her story, that she attended a party with Kavanaugh and he sexually assaulted her.

Literally nothing presented has corroborated her claim that they have ever met.
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Wtf even makes them 'credible'??

LenovoFan462 posted...

Wtf even makes them 'credible'??

Not hiding behind multiple alt accounts.
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