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Fam_Fam
09/27/18 3:25:14 PM
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what an asswipe
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Maeiv
09/27/18 3:25:43 PM
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To be fair, its the only angle he can take
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Fam_Fam
09/27/18 3:26:39 PM
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Maeiv posted...
To be fair, its the only angle he can take


no, it's not.
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Fam_Fam
09/27/18 3:27:16 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
I cant watch it cuz Im at work but does he sound the least bit believable? My Facebook feed is full of people saying he sounds like an untrustworthy asshole.


i agree with them, personally.

he's talking about how great he is, and how he'd never do such a thing.
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AlephZero
09/27/18 3:27:33 PM
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if my family was getting daily death threats i'd probably be pissed too
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Fam_Fam
09/27/18 3:28:12 PM
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AlephZero posted...
if my family was getting daily death threats i'd probably be pissed too


im my family member as sexually assaulted and half of Congress doesn't care, I'd be pissed too
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rikasa
09/27/18 3:28:21 PM
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Ford: "it was 100% him"

Kavanaugh: "I'm not saying she's a liar, but it wasn't me."
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RebelElite791
09/27/18 3:28:22 PM
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AlephZero posted...
if my family was getting daily death threats i'd probably be pissed too

Oh the ironing
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
09/27/18 3:28:45 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
I cant watch it cuz Im at work but does he sound the least bit believable? My Facebook feed is full of people saying he sounds like an untrustworthy asshole.


I'm more on the side of the female leading up to today...

But yes he sounds believable. His voice was cracking a lot and he was crying/about to.
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Fam_Fam
09/27/18 3:29:30 PM
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"i never questioned that dr. ford may have been assaulted in some place, by some person, at some time"
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X-Pac_Heat
09/27/18 3:29:46 PM
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He has a point.

He's been through how many investigations and vetting processes? And all this comes up now? Not one hint before?

This reeks of a democratic trick. It's all disgusting tbqh.
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Zikten
09/27/18 3:30:05 PM
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Maeiv posted...
To be fair, he is the victim
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Fam_Fam
09/27/18 3:30:30 PM
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X-Pac_Heat posted...
He has a point.

He's been through how many investigations and vetting processes? And all this comes up now? Not one hint before?

This reeks of a democratic trick. It's all disgusting tbqh.


it coming up now has nothing to do with if its true.
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Hexenherz
09/27/18 3:31:35 PM
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X-Pac_Heat posted...
He has a point.

He's been through how many investigations and vetting processes? And all this comes up now? Not one hint before?.


Yeah, like... if the attack wasn't reported originally then there would be a really, really, really minimal chance that it would ever come up on an investigation, especially given the victims in the case.
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mobile_jukester
09/27/18 3:58:27 PM
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Waaahhhh they won't let me gangrape teens anymore - Kavanaugh
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sondast
09/27/18 4:04:20 PM
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X-Pac_Heat posted...
He has a point.

He's been through how many investigations and vetting processes? And all this comes up now? Not one hint before?

This reeks of a democratic trick. It's all disgusting tbqh.

So where were the disgusting democratic tricks when Gorsuch was getting interviewed and vetted?
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Tyranthraxus
09/27/18 4:05:29 PM
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sondast posted...
X-Pac_Heat posted...
He has a point.

He's been through how many investigations and vetting processes? And all this comes up now? Not one hint before?

This reeks of a democratic trick. It's all disgusting tbqh.

So where were the disgusting democratic tricks when Gorsuch was getting interviewed and vetted?


That's the thing. There aren't any. Gorsuch was obviously appointed because of a R v W bias but that alone isn't enough to disqualify someone.
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Fam_Fam
09/27/18 4:07:24 PM
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why does he keep saying he likes beer so much...
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Funbazooka
09/27/18 4:07:54 PM
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His testimony has been very strong and sounds honest. I believe this man.
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Fam_Fam
09/27/18 4:09:13 PM
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he NEVER didn't remember something that happened when he drank...?
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darkjedilink
09/27/18 4:10:37 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
AlephZero posted...
if my family was getting daily death threats i'd probably be pissed too

im my family member as sexually assaulted and half of Congress doesn't care, I'd be pissed too

Would your family member know what year they were sexually assaulted?

Would the witnesses they named actually say the gathering in question took place?

Would that family member take a polygraph while on vacation about the sexual assault, months before actually bothering to come forward?

Would their story change numerous times over the course of a month?
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Fam_Fam
09/27/18 4:11:19 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
AlephZero posted...
if my family was getting daily death threats i'd probably be pissed too

im my family member as sexually assaulted and half of Congress doesn't care, I'd be pissed too

Would your family member know what year they were sexually assaulted?

Would the witnesses they named actually say the gathering in question took place?

Would that family member take a polygraph while on vacation about the sexual assault, months before actually bothering to come forward?

Would their story change numerous times over the course of a month?


potentially? how could I know?
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Tyranthraxus
09/27/18 4:13:36 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
AlephZero posted...
if my family was getting daily death threats i'd probably be pissed too

im my family member as sexually assaulted and half of Congress doesn't care, I'd be pissed too

Would your family member know what year they were sexually assaulted?

Would the witnesses they named actually say the gathering in question took place?

Would that family member take a polygraph while on vacation about the sexual assault, months before actually bothering to come forward?

Would their story change numerous times over the course of a month?


potentially? how could I know?


You are responding to someone who regularly loses arguments to proudclad after just one post.
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TheKentster
09/27/18 4:14:21 PM
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If the allegations are false, then he is the victim.
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darkjedilink
09/27/18 4:14:39 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
AlephZero posted...
if my family was getting daily death threats i'd probably be pissed too

im my family member as sexually assaulted and half of Congress doesn't care, I'd be pissed too

Would your family member know what year they were sexually assaulted?

Would the witnesses they named actually say the gathering in question took place?

Would that family member take a polygraph while on vacation about the sexual assault, months before actually bothering to come forward?

Would their story change numerous times over the course of a month?


potentially? how could I know?

In Ford's case, she doesn't know when it happened, every person she named said that the party in question didn't happen (including her best friend at the time), her story has changed numerous times over the past month, AND she gets a polygraph while on vacation (about something she supposedly didn't want to come forward about, and she doesn't remember who paid for it).

Are you really suggesting NONE of that raises any red flags to you?
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Vyrulisse
09/27/18 4:15:01 PM
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Funbazooka posted...
His testimony has been very strong and sounds honest. I believe this man.

He sounds unhinged and fake. He also sounds like a spoiled brat being made to answer for his actions for the first time in his life.
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Middle hope
09/27/18 4:16:39 PM
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He clearly didnt assault anyone. I hope after he beats this he is able to sue the accusers for trying to ruin his life.
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TheKentster
09/27/18 4:17:11 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Funbazooka posted...
His testimony has been very strong and sounds honest. I believe this man.

He sounds unhinged and fake. He also sounds like a spoiled brat being made to answer for his actions for the first time in his life.


Try to be a little less biased, you're embarrassing yourself.
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darkjedilink
09/27/18 4:17:44 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Funbazooka posted...
His testimony has been very strong and sounds honest. I believe this man.

He sounds unhinged and fake. He also sounds like a spoiled brat being made to answer for his actions for the first time in his life.

In Ford's case, she doesn't know when it happened, every person she named said that the party in question didn't happen (including her best friend at the time), her story has changed numerous times over the past month, AND she gets a polygraph while on vacation (about something she supposedly didn't want to come forward about, and she doesn't remember who paid for it).

Are you really suggesting NONE of that raises any red flags to you?
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EdgeMaster
09/27/18 4:17:49 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
Maeiv posted...
To be fair, he is the victim

Yikes


lol the kind of response Id expect from you. You say yikes because you would look like a complete fucking jackass, even more so than normal, if it turns out he did not commit a crime, but was considered guilty before proven innocent and couldnt even go out to eat with his family without being harassed on top of the stress with losing a valuable job opportunity because someone just made some shit up to get attention.
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Doom_Art
09/27/18 4:18:20 PM
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EdgeMaster posted...
couldnt even go out to eat with his family without being harassed on top of the stress with losing a valuable job opportunity

L O L
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DirkDiggles
09/27/18 4:18:38 PM
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If he happen to not get it, I wonder how many rape allegations are going to be thrown at Trump's next nomination by the Democrats.
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Doom_Art
09/27/18 4:19:30 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
If he happen to not get it, I wonder how many rape allegations are going to be thrown at Trump's next nomination by the Democrats.

Remember all the rape allegations Gorsuch had?
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Zeeak4444
09/27/18 4:19:38 PM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
I cant watch it cuz Im at work but does he sound the least bit believable? My Facebook feed is full of people saying he sounds like an untrustworthy asshole.


I'm more on the side of the female leading up to today...

But yes he sounds believable. His voice was cracking a lot and he was crying/about to.


Lying doesn't make you more believable.
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Zikten
09/27/18 4:19:40 PM
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I'm a huge believer in right to a fair trial. Too many people get convicted that are innocent. So yes. He is being victimized . The country just assumed he's guilty based on what a random woman says over 30 years ago
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hockeybub89
09/27/18 4:19:41 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
If he happen to not get it, I wonder how many rape allegations are going to be thrown at Trump's next nomination by the Democrats.

Name 1 rape allegation that Gorusch faced. Or anyone Trump passed over for Kavanaugh
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hockeybub89
09/27/18 4:20:30 PM
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Zikten posted...
I'm a huge believer in right to a fair trial. Too many people get convicted that are innocent. So yes. He is being victimized . The country just assumed he's guilty based on what a random woman says over 30 years ago

This isn't a criminal trial. It's a character assessment.

Is "fucking asshole" something that you have to be sentenced to in a court of law before people can dislike you?
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Damn_Underscore
09/27/18 4:20:39 PM
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If he didn't do these things then he literally is a victim.
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Doom_Art
09/27/18 4:20:41 PM
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Zikten posted...
I'm a huge believer in right to a fair trial

He's not on trial. He's in a job interview
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darkjedilink
09/27/18 4:21:12 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Zikten posted...
I'm a huge believer in right to a fair trial. Too many people get convicted that are innocent. So yes. He is being victimized . The country just assumed he's guilty based on what a random woman says over 30 years ago

This isn't a criminal trial. It's a character assessment.

Involving a criminal accusation.

With zero evidence or corroborating witnesses.
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Vyrulisse
09/27/18 4:21:33 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
Funbazooka posted...
His testimony has been very strong and sounds honest. I believe this man.

He sounds unhinged and fake. He also sounds like a spoiled brat being made to answer for his actions for the first time in his life.

In Ford's case, she doesn't know when it happened, every person she named said that the party in question didn't happen (including her best friend at the time), her story has changed numerous times over the past month, AND she gets a polygraph while on vacation (about something she supposedly didn't want to come forward about, and she doesn't remember who paid for it).

Are you really suggesting NONE of that raises any red flags to you?

She came forward. She told her story on a national stage knowing full well the lunacy she's going to have to deal with for possibly the rest of her life. Threats and insults and all that nonsense. It's hard enough for Women to tell ONE person... you know what. I'm not going down this road. If you can't understand what she's overcome and done today then there's no educating you.
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EdgeMaster
09/27/18 4:21:41 PM
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Zikten posted...
I'm a huge believer in right to a fair trial. Too many people get convicted that are innocent. So yes. He is being victimized . The country just assumed he's guilty based on what a random woman says over 30 years ago


Bold is false.

The rest of your post is spot on.
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hockeybub89
09/27/18 4:22:22 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Zikten posted...
I'm a huge believer in right to a fair trial. Too many people get convicted that are innocent. So yes. He is being victimized . The country just assumed he's guilty based on what a random woman says over 30 years ago

This isn't a criminal trial. It's a character assessment.

Involving a criminal accusation.

With zero evidence or corroborating witnesses.

He's not on trial and he never will be.
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Zikten
09/27/18 4:28:32 PM
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EdgeMaster posted...
Zikten posted...
I'm a huge believer in right to a fair trial. Too many people get convicted that are innocent. So yes. He is being victimized . The country just assumed he's guilty based on what a random woman says over 30 years ago


Bold is false.

The rest of your post is spot on.

I believe that about 25% of all prisoners in america are innocent
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Doom_Art
09/27/18 4:29:15 PM
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Zikten posted...
I believe that about 25% of all prisoners in america are innocent

Lol based on what
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09/27/18 4:29:36 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Zikten posted...
I'm a huge believer in right to a fair trial. Too many people get convicted that are innocent. So yes. He is being victimized . The country just assumed he's guilty based on what a random woman says over 30 years ago

This isn't a criminal trial. It's a character assessment.

Involving a criminal accusation.

With zero evidence or corroborating witnesses.

He's not on trial and he never will be.

He's on trial for a sexual assault that happened almost 40 years ago RIGHT NOW.
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Killer Mimic
09/27/18 4:29:37 PM
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It's kinda funny how he remembers almost everything while Ford don't remember anything.

He's been very honest this whole interview, including his admission that he liked beer. He didn't have to say it in that context, but he did.

It's easy to say he's acting like a victim... but there's a strong possibility that he is the victim and acting like a victim is consistent with being a victim.
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Doom_Art
09/27/18 4:30:22 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
He's on trial for a sexual assault that happened almost 40 years ago RIGHT NOW.

Noooo he's in a job interview right now lol
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