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spudger
09/25/18 10:37:20 AM
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Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
imagine trying to rationalize bullying. these same people are the ones who love to slurp for trump.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
09/25/18 10:37:44 AM
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Ill never underatand why these kids kill themselves instead of getting revenge on the bullies or even taking them down with them.

Suicide only lets the bully know they won and encourages more bullies to know their victims will not only let them win but kill themselves instead of offering any resistance.
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Kineth
09/25/18 10:40:32 AM
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frozenshock posted...
Zikten posted...
and the bullies don't even get punished


Wouldn't be surprised if they don't given the way we're in so deep in the victim-blaming mentality in this day and age.


This topic is the proof in the pudding.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
09/25/18 10:40:59 AM
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@Conflict

No I understand mental illness I just dont see a reason to let the bullies win. I used to be picked on in school and fought back, fought dirty so the bullying would stop.

These kids today are weak minded and weak willed.
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_Goggalor_
09/25/18 10:42:36 AM
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I got bullied for like three weeks in fifth grade. It all stopped when I stabbed a kid in the face with a pencil. Never got fucked with again after that.
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KStateKing17
09/25/18 10:42:55 AM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Ill never underatand why these kids kill themselves instead of getting revenge on the bullies or even taking them down with them.

Suicide only lets the bully know they won and encourages more bullies to know their victims will not only let them win but kill themselves instead of offering any resistance.

If you're going through mental or physical abuse it's going to to have some effect on your thinking. If a victim doesn't see any way out of their situation, death will seem like the best option.
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Unite
09/25/18 10:44:34 AM
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BeyondWalls posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
That's like saying Reena Virk probly had it coming

Is that a Star Trek character?

CanuckCowboy posted...
If a bunch of people did it there must be a reason eh?

Like the Vancouver or Montreal hockey riots right?

Uh... you just listed the reason right there.


Reena Virk was a girl in Canada who was beaten death by a huge group of bullies in 90s.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
09/25/18 10:46:49 AM
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@KStateKing17

Yes a persons thinking is going to be different, the correct response is anger at being abused and anger/hate towards the abuser.
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KStateKing17
09/25/18 10:57:08 AM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
@KStateKing17

Yes a persons thinking is going to be different, the correct response is anger at being abused and anger/hate towards the abuser.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at. I don't really think there's a "correct" way to feel about being abused. The actions are going to depend on the person. You might be like Goggalor and retaliate immediately in self defense, get revenge later, or call the police and get help.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
09/25/18 11:02:59 AM
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I suppose I am just more pro active or more aggressive to bullying and bullies, though I think if more people reacted with aggression to bullies there would be less bullies getting away with shit. This bullshit of punishing people who fight back and hug it out with your bully is pathetic.

Worse still is the people victim blaming and those who think there are other ways to deal with bullies besides violence that will get the bully to stop.

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SolidSonicEX
09/25/18 11:03:04 AM
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GAWD I just want to shitpost this so bad.
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MacDaMurderer
09/25/18 11:07:10 AM
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He didnt even go to the fucking cops? Now these savages can beat up on the next kid.
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Kineth
09/25/18 11:09:12 AM
#66:


MacDaMurderer posted...
He didnt even go to the fucking cops? Now these savages can beat up on the next kid.


Calling the cops wouldn't help his situation.
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SolidSonicEX
09/25/18 11:09:50 AM
#67:


Kineth posted...
MacDaMurderer posted...
He didnt even go to the fucking cops? Now these savages can beat up on the next kid.


Calling the cops wouldn't help his situation.

True. "Making people hate themselves" is actually not a crime.
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KStateKing17
09/25/18 11:16:17 AM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
I suppose I am just more pro active or more aggressive to bullying and bullies, though I think if more people reacted with aggression to bullies there would be less bullies getting away with shit. This bullshit of punishing people who fight back and hug it out with your bully is pathetic.

Worse still is the people victim blaming and those who think there are other ways to deal with bullies besides violence that will get the bully to stop.

@KStateKing17

I agree that being punished to defend yourself is wrong, but unfortunately (or fortunately depending on the situation) the law doesn't cover you if you decide to stab your abuser 6 months after an incident. You also have mental abuse too that can cause permanent issues, especially if they're children or already have some handicap.
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BeyondWalls
09/25/18 11:16:31 AM
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SolidSonicEX posted...
Kineth posted...
MacDaMurderer posted...
He didnt even go to the fucking cops? Now these savages can beat up on the next kid.


Calling the cops wouldn't help his situation.

True. "Making people hate themselves" is actually not a crime.

What? Beating the shit out of someone and stabbing them IS a crime.
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Kineth
09/25/18 11:20:09 AM
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BeyondWalls posted...
SolidSonicEX posted...
Kineth posted...
MacDaMurderer posted...
He didnt even go to the fucking cops? Now these savages can beat up on the next kid.


Calling the cops wouldn't help his situation.

True. "Making people hate themselves" is actually not a crime.

What? Beating the shit out of someone and stabbing them IS a crime.


Agreed, but they're minors and because there were so many of them, it'd be hard to charge someone with the stabbing without video evidence and even then, they wouldn't have that much of a punishment. It'd likely just piss them off even more and he'd receive more retaliation.
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SolidSonicEX
09/25/18 11:20:48 AM
#71:


Kineth posted...
BeyondWalls posted...
SolidSonicEX posted...
Kineth posted...
MacDaMurderer posted...
He didnt even go to the fucking cops? Now these savages can beat up on the next kid.


Calling the cops wouldn't help his situation.

True. "Making people hate themselves" is actually not a crime.

What? Beating the shit out of someone and stabbing them IS a crime.


Agreed, but they're minors and because there were so many of them, it'd be hard to charge someone with the stabbing without video evidence and even then, they wouldn't have that much of a punishment. It'd likely just piss them off even more and he'd receive more retaliation.

Well...now he cant.
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_Goggalor_
09/25/18 11:21:43 AM
#72:


Kineth posted...
BeyondWalls posted...
SolidSonicEX posted...
Kineth posted...
MacDaMurderer posted...
He didnt even go to the fucking cops? Now these savages can beat up on the next kid.


Calling the cops wouldn't help his situation.

True. "Making people hate themselves" is actually not a crime.

What? Beating the shit out of someone and stabbing them IS a crime.


Agreed, but they're minors and because there were so many of them, it'd be hard to charge someone with the stabbing without video evidence and even then, they wouldn't have that much of a punishment. It'd likely just piss them off even more and he'd receive more retaliation.


Which is why you straight up stab one of them back. Or break their legs. Or any number of horrible things. Whatever it takes to get the message across.
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SolidSonicEX
09/25/18 11:25:49 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Kineth posted...
BeyondWalls posted...
SolidSonicEX posted...
Kineth posted...
MacDaMurderer posted...
He didnt even go to the fucking cops? Now these savages can beat up on the next kid.


Calling the cops wouldn't help his situation.

True. "Making people hate themselves" is actually not a crime.

What? Beating the shit out of someone and stabbing them IS a crime.


Agreed, but they're minors and because there were so many of them, it'd be hard to charge someone with the stabbing without video evidence and even then, they wouldn't have that much of a punishment. It'd likely just piss them off even more and he'd receive more retaliation.


Which is why you straight up stab one of them back. Or break their legs. Or any number of horrible things. Whatever it takes to get the message across.

An eye for an eye just causes mass blindness.
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Kineth
09/25/18 11:29:21 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Kineth posted...
BeyondWalls posted...
SolidSonicEX posted...
Kineth posted...
MacDaMurderer posted...
He didnt even go to the fucking cops? Now these savages can beat up on the next kid.


Calling the cops wouldn't help his situation.

True. "Making people hate themselves" is actually not a crime.

What? Beating the shit out of someone and stabbing them IS a crime.


Agreed, but they're minors and because there were so many of them, it'd be hard to charge someone with the stabbing without video evidence and even then, they wouldn't have that much of a punishment. It'd likely just piss them off even more and he'd receive more retaliation.


Which is why you straight up stab one of them back. Or break their legs. Or any number of horrible things. Whatever it takes to get the message across.


I don't necessarily disagree in the sense that he would have had to have gone apeshit and defended himself to possibly get them to step off. Not gonna agree with your tactics though.
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BeyondWalls
09/25/18 11:29:46 AM
#75:


Kineth posted...
Agreed, but they're minors and because there were so many of them, it'd be hard to charge someone with the stabbing without video evidence

Kids flip on each other like crazy. Theyre not going to protect the stabbers. The police could have prosecuted those kids pretty easily.

Kineth posted...
even then, they wouldn't have that much of a punishment.

Thats not true. You guys need to understand that being a minor isnt a free pass. My brother and his friend got sentenced to juvenile hall when they were 14 for breaking in peoples houses (non-destructively). They described juvenile hall as hell on earth. Judges crack down on kids all the freakin time.
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Kineth
09/25/18 11:32:59 AM
#76:


BeyondWalls posted...
Kineth posted...
Agreed, but they're minors and because there were so many of them, it'd be hard to charge someone with the stabbing without video evidence

Kids flip on each other like crazy. Theyre not going to protect the stabbers. The police could have prosecuted those kids pretty easily.

Kineth posted...
even then, they wouldn't have that much of a punishment.

Thats not true. You guys need to understand that being a minor isnt a free pass. My brother and his friend got sentenced to juvenile hall when they were 14 for breaking in peoples houses (non-destructively). They described juvenile hall as hell on earth. Judges crack down on kids all the freakin time.


I mean, I get that.. I just don't think they would have arrested all 20 of them and he be catching additional heat from the others.

Still though, if the school wasn't doing anything about it, it's very likely the kid didn't have much faith in authority figures at that point.
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The_Scarecrow
09/25/18 11:42:20 AM
#77:


There may be more to this story. Some of you guys have probably been out of high school for a decent amount of time. I graduated in 2016 so it's still somewhat fresh in my mind. I went to one of the worst schools in my area. Fights happened every day. People had sex in the bathrooms. Teachers were punched. School shooting threats and bomb threats happened more often than not. Some kid was taped to a light pole and had a pencil shoved up his behind and the school quietly covered it up because it was football players who did it. You get the picture.

I can say that it's very rare for someone to be jumped by 20 guys. It's usually one on one with a bunch of people watching. The worse I've seen was 4-5 guys pulling a kid out of a moving vehicle and beating him senseless. I'm not saying this cannot happen because I remember a time when around a dozen or so kids pushed me off my bike and told me that they would sodomized me if I didn't run. Luckily, adults witnessed it so nothing happened.

Still, something may started this. The kid didn't deserve this. Nobody deserves to be bullied but there may be more to this story than what we are getting. 20 guys is a lot and getting all 20 to agree to jumping some dude is a difficult task. I know that people on here like to meme about how Floridians are crazy but that's only half true. Florida people can be pretty nice and chill. The panhandle is super chill considering there's jack shit to do there.

I hope more info is released. I would like to know whether this was a freak mobbing incident or if this kid had issues with a lot of people for whatever dumb reasons high schoolers tend to hate each other over.

I hope he rests in peace and those bullies get the punishment they deserve.
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_Goggalor_
09/25/18 11:43:45 AM
#78:


SolidSonicEX posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Kineth posted...
BeyondWalls posted...
SolidSonicEX posted...
Kineth posted...
MacDaMurderer posted...
He didnt even go to the fucking cops? Now these savages can beat up on the next kid.


Calling the cops wouldn't help his situation.

True. "Making people hate themselves" is actually not a crime.

What? Beating the shit out of someone and stabbing them IS a crime.


Agreed, but they're minors and because there were so many of them, it'd be hard to charge someone with the stabbing without video evidence and even then, they wouldn't have that much of a punishment. It'd likely just piss them off even more and he'd receive more retaliation.


Which is why you straight up stab one of them back. Or break their legs. Or any number of horrible things. Whatever it takes to get the message across.

An eye for an eye just causes mass blindness.


Untrue.
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The_Scarecrow
09/25/18 12:41:45 PM
#80:


Conflict posted...
You guys are a prime example of why bullied kids are fucked

"Just stab them back"

"Why didn't he just fight off TWENTY FUCKING KIDS"

"There's no way, he had to have done something"

Completely useless, the lot of you.


Why are you so aggressive all the time? It must be exhausting.
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visualboy2003
09/25/18 1:00:49 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
The_Scarecrow posted...
Conflict posted...
You guys are a prime example of why bullied kids are fucked

"Just stab them back"

"Why didn't he just fight off TWENTY FUCKING KIDS"

"There's no way, he had to have done something"

Completely useless, the lot of you.


Why are you so aggressive all the time? It must be exhausting.


It's his gimmick. Look at his user name. He's just playing a part. Like an actor, basically.

but what did that nice person in the article do that cause the bullyinq.
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visualboy2003
09/25/18 1:23:32 PM
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if that many boys jumped on him, that must mean he did somethinq seriously wronq or he had some bad influence in that school that people thouqht he needed to be stop. because why not many boys jump on other dudes, but only him.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
09/25/18 1:29:57 PM
#85:


@SolidSonicEX

Yeah the victims killing themselves, letting the bullies win and enpowering other bullies is so much better.

Your kind of thinking is why bullying has only gotten worse.
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The_Scarecrow
09/25/18 1:36:49 PM
#86:


fenderbender321 posted...
The_Scarecrow posted...
Conflict posted...
You guys are a prime example of why bullied kids are fucked

"Just stab them back"

"Why didn't he just fight off TWENTY FUCKING KIDS"

"There's no way, he had to have done something"

Completely useless, the lot of you.


Why are you so aggressive all the time? It must be exhausting.


It's his gimmick. Look at his user name. He's just playing a part. Like an actor, basically.


Makes sense, I suppose.
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DragonGirlYuki
09/25/18 1:48:32 PM
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Isn't "crisis actor" politically incorrect enough to be deemed offensive by the mods?
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ShroomKingJr
09/25/18 1:52:21 PM
#88:


NeoShadowhen posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Sure, he might have done something that caused them to attack him.

But nothing he may have done justifies their behavior.


What if he said something racist.


They will never publish the race of the attackers, because they aren't white.
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CProtectionSvce
09/26/18 9:52:44 PM
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Awful incident. There was clearly a dearth of parenting going on in this school
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Sphyx
09/28/18 7:37:38 PM
#91:


BeyondWalls posted...
OK, but why did 20 guys jump one dude? Maybe I'm being an asshole, but that sounds like maybe this dude actually did something. I'm not sure 20 guys jump on one dude just because he was a nerd.

I'm interested in hearing what justification you think there is for this attack.
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frozenshock
09/29/18 11:28:37 PM
#92:


visualboy2003 posted...
if that many boys jumped on him, that must mean he did somethinq seriously wronq or he had some bad influence in that school that people thouqht he needed to be stop. because why not many boys jump on other dudes, but only him.


Sometimes, that "something seriously wrong" might just be that he looked funny with his glasses or that they saw his mom give him a peck on the cheek when dropping him off. That's really all it takes. I've seen it.
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visualboy2003
09/30/18 8:23:23 PM
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if that's the case he should be equipped with a bomb that he can use immediately, so he can bombed them all off before they can even reach teenaqers as nice as him. you know, suicide bombers' attacked would be acceptable here instead of the evil ways they have been usinq their weapons.
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CProtectionSvce
10/02/18 1:05:27 AM
#94:


Sphyx posted...
BeyondWalls posted...
OK, but why did 20 guys jump one dude? Maybe I'm being an asshole, but that sounds like maybe this dude actually did something. I'm not sure 20 guys jump on one dude just because he was a nerd.

I'm interested in hearing what justification you think there is for this attack.

He doesn't have any
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gguirao
10/02/18 3:55:56 AM
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RIP.
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Rika_Furude
10/02/18 4:00:55 AM
#96:


the bullies were punished by gamefaqs mods

meaning to say they wern't punished at all
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bknight
10/02/18 4:30:21 AM
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On one side it cruel what happened to him and someone should probably get in trouble, on the other, he just killed himself and didn't resort to shooting up the school before killing himself, so that's a win? maybe?
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