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The Admiral
09/23/18 6:51:59 PM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/friends-netflix-sexist-racist-transphobic-problematic-millenials-watch-a8154626.html

Millennials watching Friends on Netflix have expressed reservations about the popular sitcoms storylines, describing it as transphobic, homophobic and sexist.

While the show ran for more than 10 years until 2004, it arrived on Netflix at the end of last year in the UK.

The series, starring Jennifer Aniston, Matthew Perry, Courtney Cox, Lisa Kudrow, Matt LeBlanc and David Schwimmer, remains one of the most popular shows in the US.

However, some millennials found LGBT plot points left them feeling uncomfortable for example when Chandler was paranoid about being perceived as a gay man or made mean-spirited jokes about his cross-dressing dad.

Sexism seeps in when Rachel hires a nanny for her daughter Emma, but Emmas father Ross cant handle the fact that the nanny is a man. Ross takes it one step further to being homophobic by asking if hes gay.

Not to mention Monica (played by Courtney Cox) was never allowed to forget she was once overweight theres even an episode where Joey Tribbiani (played by LeBlanc) yells, Some girl ate Monica!

New audiences claimed that Rachel would have been fired for sexual harassment because she hires an assistant who isnt qualified for the position because she wants to date him.

Theres also the controversial relationship between Monica and her fathers best friend whos 20 years older than her, but it was perceived as even more uncomfortable in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein scandal and #MeToo stories.

The sitcom has also received criticism for its lack of diversity there were only two notable non-white characters on the show: Ross girlfriend Julie and Dr Charlie Wheeler.

Friends still may be of peoples favourite series, but that doesnt mean it isnt problematic in 2018.


Is there anyone on CE who agrees with these points? Other than the lack of minorities (which is definitely odd for a NYC setting), seems like much of the other stuff is kind of reaching.
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Milkman5
09/23/18 6:53:45 PM
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Millenials are offended by monogamy
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prince_leo
09/23/18 6:53:53 PM
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I mean, it does show its age when it comes to certain social hangups. it's just natural progression of society, we're more accepting today than we were 15 years ago
even a show like Friends that was fairly progressive at the time is going to look a bit backwards when we judge by todays standards
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09/23/18 6:54:10 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
09/23/18 6:54:24 PM
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Who cares what generation tidepod thinks.
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lilORANG
09/23/18 6:54:37 PM
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It's unfunny, so it's offensive to me that it's the template for every sitcom nowadays.
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FurryPhilosifer
09/23/18 6:54:37 PM
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I'm offended by how terrible it is.
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Solar_Crimson
09/23/18 6:54:57 PM
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They should complain more about how any of the characters could even afford to live in NYC.
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boxington
09/23/18 6:55:25 PM
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I'm offended that Friends is on Netflix and Seinfeld isn't
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Axiom
09/23/18 6:55:41 PM
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prince_leo posted...
I mean, it does show its age when it comes to certain social hangups. it's just natural progression of society, we're more accepting today than we were 15 years ago
even a show like Friends that was fairly progressive at the time is going to look a bit backwards when we judge by todays standards

This basically. It's like complaining that people don't like the racist birds from Disney
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UnfairRepresent
09/23/18 6:56:07 PM
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I thought this was going to be about the lack of black people.

And they didn't mention Ross' wife being stolen by a lesbian
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Vicious_Dios
09/23/18 6:56:18 PM
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Millennials are weak and are prone to sniffing out non-issues to pass the time.
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Muffinz0rz
09/23/18 7:00:26 PM
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Millennials will go as far back as they need to get retroactively offended by things

https://www.buzzfeed.com/elliewoodward/times-how-i-met-your-mother-was-actually-really

Here they are getting triggered by HIMYM
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Kaliesto
09/23/18 7:00:32 PM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
Admiral wastes absolutely no time getting back to shitposting fresh off his purg.


Don't worry he'll say something in a few days that will put him in purge again.
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MelzezDoor
09/23/18 7:01:35 PM
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Show was crap to begin with. So much undeserved love like Seinfeld.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/23/18 7:01:36 PM
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My favorite episode of friends is the one where one of them gets in trouble for posting penis photographs on an internet message board.
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The Admiral
09/23/18 7:01:49 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Millennials will go as far back as they need to get retroactively offended by things

https://www.buzzfeed.com/elliewoodward/times-how-i-met-your-mother-was-actually-really

Here they are getting triggered by HIMYM


Wow...
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Iwin2013
09/23/18 7:02:13 PM
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Imagine having this much time on your hands to be offended at every little thing in 2018. It's a TV show, people.
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Axiom
09/23/18 7:03:33 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Millennials will go as far back as they need to get retroactively offended by things

https://www.buzzfeed.com/elliewoodward/times-how-i-met-your-mother-was-actually-really

Here they are getting triggered by HIMYM

Barnie was hilarious and the only reason to watch but he was pretty much a less blatant Quagmire. He could easily get charged with rape by deception many times over
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Behaviorism
09/23/18 7:03:45 PM
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Axiom posted...
prince_leo posted...
I mean, it does show its age when it comes to certain social hangups. it's just natural progression of society, we're more accepting today than we were 15 years ago
even a show like Friends that was fairly progressive at the time is going to look a bit backwards when we judge by todays standards

This basically. It's like complaining that people don't like the racist birds from Disney

"Jim Crow" should offend anybody
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/23/18 7:04:22 PM
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it sounds like millennials aren't too different from their parents and grandparents when it comes to being snowflakes.
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ThatMuttGuy
09/23/18 7:04:52 PM
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The irony of the thread is Admiral is complaining about people looking to be offended by everything while simultaneously being offended at them being offended by things. Incredible.
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Doom_Art
09/23/18 7:05:20 PM
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Admiral looking for stuff to get offended over again I see
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/23/18 7:05:31 PM
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Axiom posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Millennials will go as far back as they need to get retroactively offended by things

https://www.buzzfeed.com/elliewoodward/times-how-i-met-your-mother-was-actually-really

Here they are getting triggered by HIMYM

Barnie was hilarious and the only reason to watch but he was pretty much a less blatant Quagmire. He could easily get charged with rape by deception many times over


If they have that much of a problem with him, they need to be introduced to Dennis from It's Always Sunny...
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Darmik
09/23/18 7:07:00 PM
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Is this one of those articles where a guy read some tweets and wrote an article with a clickbaity headline about them for an easy payday?
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Doom_Art
09/23/18 7:07:10 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
If they have that much of a problem with him, they need to be introduced to Dennis from It's Always Sunny...

I mean I haven't watched a ton of the show so feel free to correct me

But in IASIP they don't make an effort to make the characters not seem like total pieces of shit, whereas in HIMYM they go to lengths to make Barnie loveable and his behavior acceptable, no?
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prince_leo
09/23/18 7:07:18 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
If they have that much of a problem with him, they need to be introduced to Dennis from It's Always Sunny...

tbf the gang is consistently portrayed as psychopathic and not in the right. Barnie was portrayed much more positively
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Doom_Art
09/23/18 7:08:36 PM
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Darmik posted...
Is this one of those articles where a guy read some tweets and wrote an article with a clickbaity headline about them for an easy payday?

> Find tweets from random nobodies
> Put them in article
> Conservatives like Addy find article and get offended

rinse and repeat
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lifeamovie
09/23/18 7:08:44 PM
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these news stories are always stupid

its usually a couple people on twitter

who cares what a couple random people on twitter think?
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Solar_Crimson
09/23/18 7:09:26 PM
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Highwind07 posted...
I guess that the only progressive thing was that Ross dated women of two different races other than White, an Asian woman and a Black woman.

But of course, they didn't have the balls to have any of the female characters date a Black man or an Asian man.
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Axiom
09/23/18 7:09:47 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Axiom posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Millennials will go as far back as they need to get retroactively offended by things

https://www.buzzfeed.com/elliewoodward/times-how-i-met-your-mother-was-actually-really

Here they are getting triggered by HIMYM

Barnie was hilarious and the only reason to watch but he was pretty much a less blatant Quagmire. He could easily get charged with rape by deception many times over


If they have that much of a problem with him, they need to be introduced to Dennis from It's Always Sunny...

To be fair that's pretty different considering Always Sunny didn't try to hide it. They're all meant to be awful characters. Dennis being an implied rapist was a running joke. Barnie was meant to come off as a "Oh he's just a manwhore" when his schemes would count as rape irl >_>
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TheAnthraxBunny
09/23/18 7:10:07 PM
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Millennials love Friends though tbh.
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Darmik
09/23/18 7:12:38 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Darmik posted...
Is this one of those articles where a guy read some tweets and wrote an article with a clickbaity headline about them for an easy payday?

> Find tweets from random nobodies
> Put them in article
> Conservatives like Addy find article and get offended

rinse and repeat


I wish I could get paid to write an article about how CEmen get offended over the show The Big Bang Theory but nobody cares what CEmen think :(
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/23/18 7:13:40 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
If they have that much of a problem with him, they need to be introduced to Dennis from It's Always Sunny...

I mean I haven't watched a ton of the show so feel free to correct me

But in IASIP they don't make an effort to make the characters not seem like total pieces of shit, whereas in HIMYM they go to lengths to make Barnie loveable and his behavior acceptable, no?


I actually don't watch himym. I've seen like 1 episode. I'm just going off what I've heard of it.
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LightningAce11
09/23/18 7:13:59 PM
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Why would Barney be called a rapist? Those girls consented to sleep with him.
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Damn_Underscore
09/23/18 7:14:15 PM
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came in to make a Friends is a terrible show joke

lmao @ millennials tho
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Space_Man
09/23/18 7:15:13 PM
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boxington posted...
I'm offended that Friends is on Netflix and Seinfeld isn't

It's on Hulu.

Netflix is the bargain bin of streaming services so it's only fitting that it gets Friends.
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eston
09/23/18 7:15:56 PM
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Don't these people have anything better to do than have opinions about a show they watched GOSH
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Delirious_Beard
09/23/18 7:19:06 PM
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oh hey addy's back

how was the purg buddy
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Axiom
09/23/18 7:20:21 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Why would Barney be called a rapist? Those girls consented to sleep with him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception

That line on the site that got linked about tricking a girl into sucking his dick to get the poison out would fall under this
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LookANinja
09/23/18 7:20:24 PM
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It isnt fair to scrutinize and judge things from the past using todays standards.

It was like when Laura Ingalls Wilders name was removed from an award.
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Space_Man
09/23/18 7:22:15 PM
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LookANinja posted...
It isnt fair to scrutinize and judge things from the past using todays standards.

This.

Especially because some people on the left will argue in favor of things like cultural relativism as being considered PC.

Hell, pretty much any English course you'll take will tell you to look at books through the lens of their time period...Same should apply for tv/media.
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Darmik
09/23/18 7:27:14 PM
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Space_Man posted...
LookANinja posted...
It isnt fair to scrutinize and judge things from the past using todays standards.

This.

Especially because some people on the left will argue in favor of things like cultural relativism as being considered PC.

Hell, pretty much any English course you'll take will tell you to look at books through the lens of their time period...Same should apply for tv/media.


You can both do this and point out things that haven't aged well. It's not like that means we should just never talk about it because they're old. You would need to talk about it to give context as to why those things used to be seen differently compared to now.
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Space_Man
09/23/18 7:29:07 PM
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Darmik posted...
You can both do this and point out things that haven't aged well. It's not like that means we should just never talk about it because they're old. You would need to talk about it to give context as to why those things used to be seen differently compared to now.

I mean, yeah. But like, getting outright offended and riled up isn't the healthiest reaction lol. Like, looking at it through the lens of the era helps make building blocks to "how did we get here?"

Like that song, by the Talking Heads.

This is not my house, that is not my beautiful life...How did I get here?
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Sayoria
09/23/18 7:32:07 PM
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The best shows are offensive. Look at All in the Family, The Jeffersons, and Married With Children. Seriously.
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