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IdiotMachine
09/22/18 9:37:50 AM
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Monthly Bills:
Mortgage (principle+interest+insurance+tax): $650
Utilities (water+sewage+gas+electric+internet+phone): $360
Car (loan+insurance): $400
Student loans (overpaying to pay off quicker): $1200
Groceries (food and necessary personal items): $300
Roth 401k: $1000
Roth IRA: $460
Personal after tax investments: $1500
Monthly outcomes: $5870

Living is freaking expensive. wtf... I'm living in a cheap house (~$100k) and driving a budget friendly car (Hyundai).
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cleat76
09/22/18 9:45:29 AM
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A 50% savings rate while still paying off student loans isn't exactly typical or necessary.
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IdiotMachine
09/22/18 10:54:34 AM
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cleat76 posted...
A 50% savings rate while still paying off student loans isn't exactly typical or necessary.

Well I still have some discretionary income I didn't list.

It just doesn't make sense to me to see my peers go on lavish vacations on almost a monthly basis and have these big beautiful houses...... And here I am struggling. Bleh...
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Devimon
09/22/18 10:56:05 AM
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Alright, just cut out the fat. You don't need internet in 2018, for one.
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Muffinz0rz
09/22/18 10:56:15 AM
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uwnim
09/22/18 10:57:11 AM
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IdiotMachine posted...

It just doesn't make sense to me to see my peers go on lavish vacations on almost a monthly basis and have these big beautiful houses...... And here I am struggling. Bleh...

They don't do this.
IdiotMachine posted...
Roth 401k: $1000
Roth IRA: $460
Personal after tax investments: $1500

Instead of saving/investing they spend the money.
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whitelytning
09/22/18 10:57:47 AM
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Username holds up.
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Howl
09/22/18 11:00:27 AM
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-Saves 50% of monthly income
-Claims he is "struggling" when his bills including paying a huge amount on student loans are not even half his monthly income.

Lol
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lww99
09/22/18 11:02:56 AM
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IdiotMachine posted...
cleat76 posted...
A 50% savings rate while still paying off student loans isn't exactly typical or necessary.

Well I still have some discretionary income I didn't list.

It just doesn't make sense to me to see my peers go on lavish vacations on almost a monthly basis and have these big beautiful houses...... And here I am struggling. Bleh...


Except you aren't fucking struggling, dude.

Saving/Investing 3k a month is the definition of not struggling, that's more than a lot of people MAKE in a month.
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gmo7897
09/22/18 11:06:24 AM
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The fact that you can afford to have $6,000 in monthly expenditures (half of which are savings and another undisclosed percentage is paying an excess amount on a loan) without being up to your eyeballs in debt is about the most first-world a first-world problem has ever been.

If youre concerned you dont have enough money, stop saving so much right cut - maybe cut the personal investments down to $1,000 until the student loans are paid off. Thats an extra $500 a month for your current living while still saving plenty for the future. With what youre saving, youre going to be able to retire comfortably and do all the traveling and whatever you want while your friends are working until theyre 85.
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averagejoel
09/22/18 11:12:45 AM
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if you're saving/investing $3000 every month, you don't get to complain about how expensive this shit is
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Hexenherz
09/22/18 11:18:35 AM
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Mortgage (principle+interest+insurance+tax): $650

what
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lww99
09/22/18 11:27:29 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
Mortgage (principle+interest+insurance+tax): $650

what


If you do escrow, everything gets compounded into your mortgage payment.
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Hexenherz
09/22/18 11:28:05 AM
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lww99 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Mortgage (principle+interest+insurance+tax): $650

what


If you do escrow, everything gets compounded into your mortgage payment.


I do use an escrow account, and I wish my monthly payment was 650
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IdiotMachine
09/22/18 12:50:05 PM
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uwnim posted...
Instead of saving/investing they spend the money.

I'm trying to save for a downpayment for a bigger house. I'm not sure how my peers are buying $300k houses so quickly...

Howl posted...
-Saves 50% of monthly income

50% of my monthly outcomes are savings. Not my income.

lww99 posted...
Except you aren't fucking struggling, dude.

I feel like I'm struggling compared to my peers. Like I said, I'm watching my peers buy expensive houses, cars, and going on vacations literally every month or so (a coworker is making it her goal to travel at least twice a month, and she's been successful!!! Like wtf!).

Hexenherz posted...
I do use an escrow account, and I wish my monthly payment was 650

I'm living in a dinky $100k house. It's a small 1060 sqft house, on less than a quarter acre property.
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Hexenherz
09/22/18 12:53:13 PM
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Unless you're like 40 years old, even if you're not "keeping up with your peers", you're still doing significantly better than the majority of the population.
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Solid Snake07
09/22/18 12:54:11 PM
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Half of that is investing. Which I really wouldn't consider a living expense. Then nearly half of what's left is your student loans
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IdiotMachine
09/22/18 12:55:41 PM
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gmo7897 posted...
With what youre saving, youre going to be able to retire comfortably and do all the traveling and whatever you want while your friends are working until theyre 85.

I hope so... I'm honestly so scared about not saving enough for retirement. I'm literally thinking about staying in this small house "for the rest of my life" vs. using the savings to buy a bigger house in a better neighborhood.

Solid Snake07 posted...
Half of that is investing. Which I really wouldn't consider a living expense. Then nearly half of what's left is your student loans

So my student loan minimum payment is ~$600. Been doubling it.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/22/18 12:55:41 PM
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TC you want to invest heavily while also being able to spend heavily. Only way to do that is to earn more. You're fine.
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Solid Snake07
09/22/18 12:57:09 PM
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IdiotMachine posted...
I feel like I'm struggling compared to my peers. Like I said, I'm watching my peers buy expensive houses, cars, and going on vacations literally every month or so (a coworker is making it her goal to travel at least twice a month, and she's been successful!!! Like wtf!).


But they're all f****** broke. You on the other hand will be a multi millionaire in a couple of decades and not have to work till the day you die
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FLUFFYGERM
09/22/18 12:57:14 PM
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IdiotMachine posted...
I hope so... I'm honestly so scared about not saving enough for retirement. I'm literally thinking about staying in this small house "for the rest of my life" vs. using the savings to buy a bigger house in a better neighborhood.


Save up little by little. Once your loans are paid off you can free up a ton of cash flow. Maybe even stop investing temporarily to pay off the student loans asap.
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MrPeppers
09/22/18 12:58:09 PM
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How long until the loans are paid off on this current trajectory?
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scar the 1
09/22/18 1:00:01 PM
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Adding all my monthly bills together (including student loan) lands me below $600. Would definitely be a bit more expensive in a bigger city. Actually I'm looking for my own place to live which would add some $300-400 to that. But all in all the US is nuts. Just move
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HiddenLurker
09/22/18 1:00:12 PM
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Less saving more paying off student loan. Overall you save a bit more paying off debt faster.
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lifeamovie
09/22/18 1:02:28 PM
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Literally less than 1k a month for you house

I wish that was possible in Cali
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Hexenherz
09/22/18 1:14:23 PM
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lifeamovie posted...
Literally less than 1k a month for you house

I wish that was possible in Cali

Yeah it's ridic, here in Maryland if you want that you have to buy out in the countryside like 2+ hours away from work, or live in a dilapidated house outside of DC or a burned out rowhouse in Baltimore.
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Howl
09/22/18 1:15:14 PM
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IdiotMachine posted...
uwnim posted...
Instead of saving/investing they spend the money.

I'm trying to save for a downpayment for a bigger house. I'm not sure how my peers are buying $300k houses so quickly...

Howl posted...
-Saves 50% of monthly income

50% of my monthly outcomes are savings. Not my income.

lww99 posted...
Except you aren't fucking struggling, dude.

I feel like I'm struggling compared to my peers. Like I said, I'm watching my peers buy expensive houses, cars, and going on vacations literally every month or so (a coworker is making it her goal to travel at least twice a month, and she's been successful!!! Like wtf!).

Hexenherz posted...
I do use an escrow account, and I wish my monthly payment was 650

I'm living in a dinky $100k house. It's a small 1060 sqft house, on less than a quarter acre property.


I didn't even realize that, and that's actually worse. That means you're actually saving more than 50% of your income. GTFO with this entitled bullshit.
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NightMarishPie
09/22/18 1:15:45 PM
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I can't believe anyone responded to this thread seriously
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emblem boy
09/22/18 1:19:08 PM
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TC is trolling right?
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Solid Snake07
09/22/18 1:20:01 PM
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I mean, you're saving and investing more than some people make. Which isn't bad, good on you. But you're not exactly grinding paycheck to paycheck man. Sounds like your just a little jealous of your friends or co workers who apparently spend most of not all of what they make.

Which is silly. Especially the ones who bought a house they can't really afford. Those people have made themselves significantly poorer for the rest of their life just to have a nice house now.
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TheGoldenEel
09/22/18 1:29:45 PM
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NightMarishPie posted...
I can't believe anyone responded to this thread seriously

This

emblem boy posted...
TC is trolling right?

Obviously
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IdiotMachine
09/22/18 1:43:41 PM
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MrPeppers posted...
How long until the loans are paid off on this current trajectory?

It's a 15 year loan that I refinanced last year. At this rate, it'll be paid off in about 6-7 years.

Solid Snake07 posted...
Sounds like your just a little jealous of your friends or co workers who apparently spend most of not all of what they make.

That is an accurate assessment.
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kingdrake2
09/22/18 2:55:18 PM
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lifeamovie posted...
Literally less than 1k a month for you house

I wish that was possible in Cali


just hope that wherever the california people go it won't be your state they'll turn it into another california with sky high housing prices.

oregon and washington are screwed.
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Master_Bass
09/22/18 2:58:29 PM
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IdiotMachine posted...
Roth 401k: $1000
Roth IRA: $460
Personal after tax investments: $1500

Why are you not maxing the 401K before doing after tax investments?
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REMercsChamp
09/22/18 3:05:00 PM
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Unbelievable. You can only put $3000 a month into retirement and other investments? This is why we NEED communism
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Damn_Underscore
09/22/18 3:08:18 PM
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Student loans (overpaying to pay off quicker): $1200
Roth 401k: $1000
Roth IRA: $460
Personal after tax investments: $1500

This is fine, but you will have to live a frugal life. You won't be going on lavish vacations or living in a mansion anytime soon.

The question is, do you want to live a frugal life now to be able to retire early and or retire at ~65 and live a wealthy life? That's your choice.
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IdiotMachine
09/22/18 4:09:54 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
Why are you not maxing the 401K before doing after tax investments?

Because I want to actually use this money for something else than retirement; i.e. saving up to buy a bigger/nicer house.
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