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Antifar
09/19/18 10:09:18 AM
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/09/new-documents-undercut-commerce-secretarys-claims-about-origins-of-census-citizenship-question/

In March, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, who oversees the Census Bureau, approved a controversial question about US citizenship on the 2020 census, claiming that the Justice Department needed it for more effective enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. Ross said at the time and in subsequent testimony before Congress that he approved the question after the Justice Department requested in December 2017 that it be added.

However, new documents released as part of a lawsuit by New York state against the Trump administration directly contradict Rosss public comments, showing that the commerce secretary repeatedly lobbied the Justice Department to add the citizenship question after consulting with anti-immigration hardliners. On September 8, 2017, Earl Comstock, a top official in the Commerce Department, wrote to Ross, Justice staff did not want to raise the [citizenship] question given the difficulties Justice was encountering in the press at the time (the whole Comey matter).

The email, released Monday, is part of a series of internal memoranda that refute Ross public rationale for the citizenship question. As Mother Jones previously reported, Ross stated in a memo he filed to the court on June 21 that he first considered adding a citizenship question after he was confirmed as commerce secretary in February 2017, months before the Justice Department requested the question at Rosss urging. He wrote that he had approached the Justice Department about the question, not the other way around, after consulting with other senior Administration officials who had previously raised the citizenship question. Ross said he had inquired whether the Department of Justice would support, and if so would request, inclusion of a citizenship question.

One of the senior administration officials who lobbied Ross to add the question was former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon. In July 2017, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobachat the time the vice chair of President Donald Trumps now-defunct Election Integrity Commissionwrote to Ross at the direction of Steve Bannon and said it was essential that the citizenship question be added to the census. Kobach wrote that the absence of a citizenship question leads to the problem that aliens who do not actually reside in the United States are still counted for congressional apportionment purposes.

Kobachs correspondence with Ross contradicted the Trump administrations stated rationale for the questionKobach never mentioned the Voting Rights Act in his letterand suggested the question was added to reduce the political clout of areas with many immigrants and boost Republicans. The Justice Department said in court that Kobach, Bannon, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who have all advocated aggressive crackdowns on immigration, were among those involved in pushing for the citizenship question.

The census has not asked respondents about their citizenship status since 1950. Civil rights groups say the citizenship question will depress response rates from immigrants, imperil the accuracy of the census, and shift political power to areas with fewer immigrants. The census determines how $675 billion in federal funding is allocated, how much representation states receive, and how political districts are drawn.

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Blue_Inigo
09/19/18 10:12:10 AM
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It's amazing how not one Trump Admin isnt a shitty person
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lifeamovie
09/19/18 10:13:50 AM
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allegedly

lawsuits are mostly symbolic, now fake news will parade this around as a fact
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John_Galt
09/19/18 10:14:45 AM
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Lol motherjones
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E32005
09/19/18 10:15:25 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
It's amazing how not one Trump Admin isnt a shitty person

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Antifar
09/19/18 10:15:39 AM
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lifeamovie posted...
allegedly

lawsuits are mostly symbolic, now fake news will parade this around as a fact

I mean, they cite the actual emails
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Balrog0
09/19/18 10:16:07 AM
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everyone lies to congress these days
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Kineth
09/19/18 10:16:23 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
It's amazing how not one Trump Admin isnt a shitty person


Eh, Linda McMahon has managed to not be shitty.
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Tmaster148
09/19/18 10:16:36 AM
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A Trump admin pick lied. I just can't believe that. /s
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Jaghave
09/19/18 10:16:43 AM
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lifeamovie posted...
allegedly

lawsuits are mostly symbolic, now fake news will parade this around as a fact

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Alpha218
09/19/18 10:18:29 AM
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Wilbur Ross is one of the most corrupt pieces of shit in that swamp and most people dont even realize since Commerce doesnt have as much of a spotlight on it as other departments do
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whitelytning
09/19/18 10:21:05 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
It's amazing how not one Trump Admin isnt a shitty person


Draining the swamp as promised.
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NinjaWarrior455
09/19/18 10:30:23 AM
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"bUt ThEy'Re OnLy CoNcErNeD aBoUt IlLeGaL iMmIgRaNtS"
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Blue_Inigo
09/19/18 10:32:03 AM
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Kineth posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
It's amazing how not one Trump Admin isnt a shitty person


Eh, Linda McMahon has managed to not be shitty.

You can trust a McMahon about as far as you can throw em
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Sir Will
09/19/18 10:33:26 AM
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I'm so shocked /s
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P4wn4g3
09/19/18 10:35:58 AM
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Goddamn can we just put every one of these bastards on trial already?
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BJ-blazkowics
09/19/18 10:37:25 AM
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Rumored Steve Bannon additions to the 2020 census:

1) Race (Pick one)

[] Ubermensch (British, Scandinavian, Germanic)
[] Slavic
[] Waifu (East Asian only, not the brown asians)
[] Untermensh (everything else. Portuguese, Spanish, South Italians, pick Untermensch too)

2) Voting Habits
[] Good (GOP)
[] Bad (Non-GOP voter)
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Kineth
09/19/18 10:37:56 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Kineth posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
It's amazing how not one Trump Admin isnt a shitty person


Eh, Linda McMahon has managed to not be shitty.

You can trust a McMahon about as far as you can throw em


While I don't disagree, I'm saying that she hasn't been as shitty as any of the others.
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FursonaNonGrata
09/19/18 10:37:58 AM
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lifeamovie posted...
allegedly

lawsuits are mostly symbolic, now fake news will parade this around as a fact


Lol is this an Admiral alt
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