Current Events > China's new Social credit system sounds pretty scary tbh

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solosnake
09/19/18 7:07:54 AM
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An active pilot program has already seen millions of people each assigned a score out of 800 and either reap its benefits or suffer its consequences depending on which end of the scale they sit.

Under the social credit scheme, points are lost and gained based on readings from a sophisticated network of 200 million surveillance cameras a figure set to triple in 18 months.

The program has been enabled by rapid advances in facial recognition, body scanning and geo-tracking.

The data is combined with information collected from individuals government records including medical and educational along with their financial and internet browsing histories. Overall scores can go up and down in real time dependant on the persons behaviour but they can also be affected by people they associate with.

If your best friend or your dad says something negative about the government, youll lose points too

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shnangyboos
09/19/18 7:09:12 AM
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So what exactly are the benefits if I'm a "good citizen"?
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solosnake
09/19/18 7:09:35 AM
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Under the system, those deemed to be top citizens are rewarded bonus points.

The benefits of being ranked on the higher end of the scale include waived deposits on hotels and rental cars, VIP treatment at airports, discounted loans, priority job applications and fast-tracking to the most prestigious universities.

Dandan, a young mother and marketing professional, is proud of her high score. If she keeps it up her infant son will be more likely to get into a top school.

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solosnake
09/19/18 7:10:34 AM
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But it doesnt take much to end up on the wrong side of the scale with an estimated 10 million people are already paying the price of a low rating.

Jaywalking, late payments on bills or taxes, buying too much alcohol or speaking out against the government, each cost citizens points.

Other mooted punishable offences include spending too long playing video games, wasting money on frivolous purchases and posting on social media, according to Business Insider.

Penalties range from losing the right to travel by plane or train, social media account suspensions and being barred from government jobs.

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KookyCouture
09/19/18 7:10:47 AM
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Nosedive (black mirror) irl :O
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shnangyboos
09/19/18 7:11:08 AM
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Crazy shit.
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Rika_Furude
09/19/18 7:12:52 AM
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doesnt the NSA already do this
i mean, not give americans rewards for being good. that would be absurd. but everything else regarding tracking individuals, etc
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solosnake
09/19/18 7:14:03 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
doesnt the NSA already do this
i mean, not give americans rewards for being good. that would be absurd. but everything else regarding tracking individuals, etc

probably, but china is tying it to an id card that is going to actively affect your day to day life
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clearaflagrantj
09/19/18 7:14:17 AM
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solosnake posted...
If your best friend or your dad says something negative about the government, youll lose points too

Welcome to 1984
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VectorChaos
09/19/18 7:14:31 AM
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Fuck that noise
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Turtlebread
09/19/18 7:20:15 AM
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I watched Nosedive yesterday

If I was in a country that adopted this system I would just move
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treewojima
09/19/18 7:20:28 AM
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ew
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TheRealDill2000
09/19/18 7:26:10 AM
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China is onto something great. I would love for the US to emulate the society from Nosedive.
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DarthWendy
09/19/18 7:36:44 AM
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Literally MCGA. A strong country needs a homogeneous strong united population supporting the state and the nation and being proud of it, not trying to impeach it through an allegedly "investigative" coup perpetrated by its deep state.
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Were_Wyrm
09/19/18 7:38:12 AM
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Turtlebread posted...
I watched Nosedive yesterday

If I was in a country that adopted this system I would just move

I'm sorry you don't have enough social points to cross the border.
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NeonOctopus
09/19/18 7:39:18 AM
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solosnake posted...
and internet browsing histories.

Everyone is going to lose points here lol

This literally sounds like that one episode of Black Mirror with the phone rating thing >_>
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ZMythos
09/19/18 7:41:09 AM
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DarthWendy posted...
Literally MCGA. A strong country needs a homogeneous strong united population supporting the state and the nation and being proud of it, not trying to impeach it through an allegedly "investigative" coup perpetrated by its deep state.

I'm not surprised you'd say this

The alt right loves to trample over civil liberties
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Kineth
09/19/18 7:45:07 AM
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This is a totalitarian fascist's wet dream.
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Bok_Choi
09/19/18 7:52:50 AM
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clearaflagrantj
09/19/18 7:57:45 AM
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The conservatrolls aren't even trying itt
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emblem boy
09/19/18 8:00:49 AM
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I feel like this isn't the full story of what this is
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/19/18 8:06:47 AM
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Black Mirror isn't suppose to be a fucking manual.
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Bok_Choi
09/19/18 8:08:08 AM
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emblem boy posted...
I feel like this isn't the full story of what this is

This is one of those cases where you can take the news articles at face value

China actually has this Black Mirror-esque thing going rn
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NinjaWarrior455
09/19/18 8:29:09 AM
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This is almost like some Psycho Pass type shit.
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lifeamovie
09/19/18 8:31:45 AM
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what exactly is wrong with this?
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Coffeebeanz
09/19/18 8:32:53 AM
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Pretty much exactly like that Black Mirror episode
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SK8T3R215
09/19/18 8:44:59 AM
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lifeamovie posted...
what exactly is wrong with this?


yikes
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Turtlebread
09/19/18 8:45:54 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Turtlebread posted...
I watched Nosedive yesterday

If I was in a country that adopted this system I would just move

I'm sorry you don't have enough social points to cross the border.


Why would the system try to stop its least valuable and most unwanted citizens from leaving
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/19/18 8:46:03 AM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
what exactly is wrong with this?


yikes


Don't feed the 2018 trolls.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
09/19/18 8:48:11 AM
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Turtlebread posted...
Why would the system try to stop its least valuable and most unwanted citizens from leaving


Perception. Prole slaves are useful being stuck in the country working. You don't want the lower class traveling the world, exposing them to national follies. You want elites representing the nation abroad.
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tremain07
09/19/18 8:50:38 AM
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lifeamovie posted...
what exactly is wrong with this?

It's all about control. Buy the citizens with not only promises of reward and loyalty to the government, make it so the only way their life could improve for them is this awful ass system, then, when things start getting bad, turn them on each other through this system as they'll willingly turn people not happy with the government over to the government who will do god knows what with them, then people with lower scores will start to be seen as less than human, someone to discriminate against, someone you can do whatever you like with and won't get into trouble because you're a high scorer, how can you not see the dangers out this, we write books, make tv shows and even fanfiction based on dystopian societies who do shit like this.

Man, humans just love LOVE to constantly remake the mistakes of the past just so they can have that power today even if temporary like always, probably banking on dying satisfied no regrets and happy before the consequences actually happen.

And in case you still haven't got it, let's say burgass has a social score of 56 and Error has a social score of 87, see in a place like this error could come over to burgasses house, beat him within an inch of his life, take whatever he wanted out of that house and say it's his and burgass would not be able to get justice because of his low credit score he has no human rights given to him by the government, the police will not hear him out and he is not allowed a weapon or the right to defend himself against anyone whose social score is higher than his own, so what's burgass to do? Why go after someone with a lower score than him and do to them what error did to him perhaps even worse.

That's just the citizens, imagine the government basically given complete and utter control and secrecy over people who get "turned" in to them. experiments, enslavement, sex assault, just to name a few, never underestimate humanity's limits when it comes to cruelty.
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Kaiganeer
09/19/18 8:51:13 AM
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can't wait for our psycho pass future

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