Poll of the Day > Oh, so physical copies do absolutely nothing now?

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I bought the disc for Spider-Man PS4 and it's currently installing 43.7 GB onto my PS4 from there. I guess I'm not playing tonight after all...

Pretty much
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Pro-tip! Buy the superior digital copy at work, and then begin downloading it. By the time your day is over, the game will be all ready for you when you get home, ok?
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pretty much, no.

blueray drives, or at least the one in the consoles, are too slow to stream everything off of.
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They do something, they're DRM.
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Doesn't take long to install from disc also discs allow you to sell, trade, lend to people and save on download times.
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Aculo posted...

Pro-tip! Buy the superior digital copy at work, and then begin downloading it. By the time your day is over, the game will be all ready for you when you get home, ok?

Unfortunately, I think I only would have gotten the Amazon Prime promotional credit thing they're doing now instead of the discount if it was the physical disc. But yeah this is terrible, I probably won't do this again.

Kinda like how computer game discs back in the day only downloaded the game
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green dragon posted...

Kinda like how computer game discs back in the day only downloaded the game

Yup. I didn't realize it was the same with consoles now. I dun goofed.

I'm glad Nintendo is going back to cartridges tbh
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supergamer19 posted...

I'm glad Nintendo is going back to cartridges tbh

To be honest I really like that about the Switch

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SkynyrdRocker posted...

Yup. I didn't realize it was the same with consoles now. I dun goofed.

Installing =/= downloading so again you're wrong.
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So is this supposed push for digital merely because people are too stupid to use or understand a disc? That would explain a LOT about Steam though.

It'll install the disc and dl updates at the same time. This has been a thing since mid-360.
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As I recall, you would still need the disc to be inserted into the console to play. The installing should basically make it take less time to load. I think that's how it is, from what I can remember...
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lol I remember when console players were using physical copies not using up space as a console pro.

dioxxys posted...

lol I remember when console players were using physical copies not using up space as a console pro.

Wut?
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DPsx7 posted...

So is this supposed push for digital merely because people are too stupid to use or understand a disc? That would explain a LOT about Steam though.

Whaaaaattttt?!?! You have a problem with Steam?!?
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CacciatoPart3 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

So is this supposed push for digital merely because people are too stupid to use or understand a disc? That would explain a LOT about Steam though.

Whaaaaattttt?!?! You have a problem with Steam?!?

He has a problem with digital.

@supergamer19 posted...

I'm glad Nintendo is going back to cartridges tbh

How do you feel about the games that are going to be streaming only?
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Pretty much. Funny. I preordered Fallout 4 for PC, because at the time, my internet speed was shit. Load it up and nope, basically just a shell for Steam. Took me four days to download the game. Took launch week off on vacation to play the game. Spent majority of it just waiting to download.

WastelandCowboy posted...

Pretty much. Funny. I preordered Fallout 4 for PC, because at the time, my internet speed was shit. Load it up and nope, basically just a shell for Steam. Took me four days to download the game. Took launch week off on vacation to play the game. Spent majority of it just waiting to download.

damn dude, that sucks. any reason why you have slow internet?
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green dragon posted...

WastelandCowboy posted...

Pretty much. Funny. I preordered Fallout 4 for PC, because at the time, my internet speed was shit. Load it up and nope, basically just a shell for Steam. Took me four days to download the game. Took launch week off on vacation to play the game. Spent majority of it just waiting to download.

damn dude, that sucks. any reason why you have slow internet?

I'm blaming Steam because when broadband was new here it took me like 6 hours to DL HL2 and its horrible payload. I also bought the physical version.

Funny that the shitty software is a big reason why I've stuck with discs.

wwinterj25 posted...

dioxxys posted...

lol I remember when console players were using physical copies not using up space as a console pro.

Wut?

Oh i used to have some console players telling me that console was better because their physical discs didnt take up space.

dioxxys posted...

Oh i used to have some console players telling me that console was better because their physical discs didnt take up space.

Seems a bit of a dumb thing to say being as consoles have HDD now so taking up space doesn't really matter.
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Switch is the worst, publishers can't be bothered to put the full game on the cart because it would cost 20 cents more so your forced to download the game piecemeal
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wwinterj25 posted...

dioxxys posted...

Oh i used to have some console players telling me that console was better because their physical discs didnt take up space.

Seems a bit of a dumb thing to say being as consoles have HDD now so taking up space doesn't really matter.

This is only partially true. Sure, games install so things can be processed faster. The reason they don't take up space is because you can uninstall but still have that copy stored externally. Keep the saves and all. The idea is to avoid hours of DL'ing or missing servers. Given the choice I'd rather look at colorful box art than a bunch of wires and external HDD's.

In other words with physical discs the console HDD is more temporary workspace than actual long term storage.

Physical copies allow you to share your games as well, and play on different playstations etc without having to log in to an account as well. You can sell physical copies to others etc.

For instance you can buy a physical copy of a game with a gamers club thing from bestbuy for 20% off, play it for a few weeks then sell it to someone for the price you bought it (not for much longer but still).

Same is true for a bit more of a loss without that though. A digital copy can not be sold to others if you buy it for $60....your out $60 even if you only play it over a week and then never want to play it again.

But a new game and finish it in a week and there is no replay value for you? Sell it and end up spending maybe $10 total (woulda costed that much to rent it).

That is the main advantage of physical copies.
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Pretty sure my digital download was around 48gb so there's a difference.

green dragon posted...

WastelandCowboy posted...

Pretty much. Funny. I preordered Fallout 4 for PC, because at the time, my internet speed was shit. Load it up and nope, basically just a shell for Steam. Took me four days to download the game. Took launch week off on vacation to play the game. Spent majority of it just waiting to download.

damn dude, that sucks. any reason why you have slow internet?

Had. Had Comcast. Switched to local isp. Fiber baby, yeah!

Imo the best part of physical copies is legacy. Let's assume you want to play that game again 15 years from now, and the game was never remastered. All servers for download are down. And you don't have it installed on your system anymore for whatever reason (freeing space, it broke down, etc). You'll only be able to do that with the disc in hands.

VixYW posted...

Imo the best part of physical copies is legacy. Let's assume you want to play that game again 15 years from now, and the game was never remastered. All servers for download are down. And you don't have it installed on your system anymore for whatever reason (freeing space, it broke down, etc). You'll only be able to do that with the disc in hands.

This applies to self-contained games (i.e. Nintendo cartridges) but does it varies among some PS4 and XBox games?
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So what do we do with a disc decades from now when the ps4 psn is offline

Zikten posted...

So what do we do with a disc decades from now when the ps4 psn is offline

Encase em in clear glass/plastic and turn em into coasters?
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gonna suck if someone wants to play Spiderman on ps4 in the year 2053 and they haven't don a remaster cause sony lost the marvel rights. and you have to try to hunt down an old antique ps4 that still has spiderman installed on it

InfestedAdam posted...

VixYW posted...

Imo the best part of physical copies is legacy. Let's assume you want to play that game again 15 years from now, and the game was never remastered. All servers for download are down. And you don't have it installed on your system anymore for whatever reason (freeing space, it broke down, etc). You'll only be able to do that with the disc in hands.

This applies to self-contained games (i.e. Nintendo cartridges) but does it varies among some PS4 and XBox games?

Not sure. It applies for all the games I own at least.

Zikten posted...

So what do we do with a disc decades from now when the ps4 psn is offline

You can still play it just fine. You have the disk so why would you need the PSN?