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MeIon Bread
09/18/18 7:58:45 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paintings_by_Adolf_Hitler#/media/File:Adolf_Hitler_-_Wien_Oper.jpg

Apparently, he was considered good at paintings of things and buildings, but not good at paintings of people, and that's why he got turned down for art school.

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yunalenne10
09/18/18 7:59:53 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paintings_by_Adolf_Hitler#/media/File:HitlerMaryWithJesus.jpg

Whoa...
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MeIon Bread
09/18/18 8:00:51 AM
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yunalenne10 posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paintings_by_Adolf_Hitler#/media/File:HitlerMaryWithJesus.jpg

Whoa...


I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I quite liked that one. I'm not sure what's meant to be in the background, though.

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_Goggalor_
09/18/18 8:01:11 AM
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His contemporaries thought his paintings looked "lifeless" because of the lack of people. Quite technically skilled though.
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MeIon Bread
09/18/18 8:02:26 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
His contemporaries thought his paintings looked "lifeless" because of the lack of people. Quite technically skilled though.


Hey, Goggs, how's your own art going? Are you working on this sci-fi book, set in the crater?

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Bok_Choi
09/18/18 8:02:59 AM
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CE has been through this before Sunhawk

Hitler's paintings were quite pedestrian. Especially to try and get into art school at the time.

He also had no flair, and he was afraid to try different things

That's why his paintings look boring, even if they took a degree of skill to make
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_Goggalor_
09/18/18 8:03:52 AM
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MeIon Bread posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
His contemporaries thought his paintings looked "lifeless" because of the lack of people. Quite technically skilled though.


Hey, Goggs, how's your own art going? Are you working on this sci-fi book, set in the crater?


Mine is going well (drawing wise). Getting pretty far on my DB mural and I might be asked to do a booth at Anime Detour. I've stopped writing completely though.
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Hawaiian_punch
09/18/18 8:03:58 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
His contemporaries thought his paintings looked "lifeless" because of the lack of people. Quite technically skilled though.


Its almost like his contemporaries knew he didnt have a soul
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Veggeta X
09/18/18 8:04:46 AM
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I can't respect the person's talent if I don't respect the person.
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Rika_Furude
09/18/18 8:06:13 AM
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im not a art connoisseur so i cant judge if his work is great or not, but they do look alright to me
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RoboLaserGandhi
09/18/18 8:06:14 AM
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Hitler's paintings were the kind of thing you'd find at a hobby lobby
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Bok_Choi
09/18/18 8:07:40 AM
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In fact, if you saw one of these paintings in a hotel lobby or something your eyes would pass right over them

They're only noteworthy in that they were painted by Hitler
much in the same way certain art pieces only attract attention because they were created by certain people

even then, there's very little to be gained, artistically, from one of Hitler's
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catboy0_0
09/18/18 8:09:02 AM
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supposedly he had talent but no soul I'm thinking
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MeIon Bread
09/18/18 8:11:20 AM
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Bok_Choi posted...
In fact, if you saw one of these paintings in a hotel lobby or something your eyes would pass right over them

They're only noteworthy in that they were painted by Hitler
much in the same way certain art pieces only attract attention because they were created by certain people

even then, there's very little to be gained, artistically, from one of Hitler's


You said that they're only noteworthy because they're by Hitler, but that's often true of average works by famous painters. People want to buy them because they're by the artist, as a prestige purchase. I mean, look at Salvator Mundi by Leonardo di Vinci. I thought it was not bad, but nothing amazing, and it sold for hundreds of millions of dollars. The buyer was anonymous, but it was probably someone who has little to no interest in painting. This is pretty bad.

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Bok_Choi
09/18/18 8:16:22 AM
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MeIon Bread posted...
You said that they're only noteworthy because they're by Hitler, but that's often true of average works by famous painters.

Do you actually stop reading posts at a certain point to respond to them, instead of reading the whole post and then responding?
I literally pointed out that this happens with other artists anyhow, but that Hitler's art leaves nothing to the audience to take away... which makes your post redundant, at best...

Also you can't use the art-buying community as any example, really - that whole industry exists to move drugs, funds and other contraband.
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catboy0_0
09/18/18 8:16:24 AM
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his artwork has no depth
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MeIon Bread
09/18/18 8:22:31 AM
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Bok_Choi posted...
MeIon Bread posted...
You said that they're only noteworthy because they're by Hitler, but that's often true of average works by famous painters.

Do you actually stop reading posts at a certain point to respond to them, instead of reading the whole post and then responding?
I literally pointed out that this happens with other artists anyhow, but that Hitler's art leaves nothing to the audience to take away... which makes your post redundant, at best...

Also you can't use the art-buying community as any example, really - that whole industry exists to move drugs, funds and other contraband.


I assumed your post were referring to people who were famous for random stuff, i.e. non-painters. I was just saying that even painters benefit from this fame business.

His stuff wasn't too bad.

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Distant_Rainbow
09/18/18 8:23:38 AM
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I find it weird his lack of skill at drawing people was such a turn-down for art schools of the time. Hey, it's an art school. They literally teach art. While not brilliant, those at least look somewhat decent, enough basis for something to be built upon. Couldn't they have thought to guide and correct/improve his skills rather than straight-up rejecting him? And IIRC they did it twice, too.

Or at least, counsel him onto a profession that does a lot of drawing/painting that has nothing to do with people? Like something regarding city planning or architecture? Yeah, I've heard Hitler was horrible at math or something so there might have been a low chance of this, but at least they could have induced him to make an attempt at it.

If only something like that happened, then perhaps all those tragedies of WWII could have been somewhat abated, at least. Yes, Hitler didn't single-handedly cause everything so they wouldn't have all been preventable outright, but probably there would have been less damage/atrocities.

It also kinda sheds light on his close friendship with Speer when you think about it, IMO.
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teepan95
09/18/18 8:24:30 AM
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Bok_Choi posted...
Also you can't use the art-buying community as any example, really - that whole industry exists to move drugs, funds and other contraband.

Moar
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DeathDeathSong
09/18/18 8:24:48 AM
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yunalenne10 posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paintings_by_Adolf_Hitler#/media/File:HitlerMaryWithJesus.jpg

Whoa...

lol of course he would paint jesus as white and blonde
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Bok_Choi
09/18/18 8:25:31 AM
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MeIon Bread posted...
His stuff wasn't too bad.

I stop at saying Hitler demonstrated a lot of technical proficiency in his paintings.
Unfortunately that's like saying "wow that professional athlete is in really good shape"

Like

It's kind of expected that you have good technical proficiency, at least in visual art like painting.
And even if you don't, that's not a negative against you.

But just cause you practiced how to paint German architecture and landscapes in a nice dull figurative structure, doesn't mean you applied any sort of artistic thinking beyond putting shapes on canvas.
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Vol2tex
09/18/18 8:31:55 AM
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The paintings are indeed dull. The type of stuff that today, if I were browsing a blogspot or Tumblr with 100s of consecutive images of various artists' artworks, I would scroll past his.

I will say though that I see many artists today with less technical skill and even more bland artwork than him being quite successful, but especially back in the 1910s he was rightfully considered mediocre.
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ColdOne666
09/18/18 8:35:15 AM
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Those paintings where actually pretty good, and lol at the art snobs itt.
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CyricZ
09/18/18 8:36:07 AM
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This topic title reminds me of the Monty Python sketch "Mr. Hilter".
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Middle hope
09/18/18 8:42:52 AM
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Hotel hallways and lobbies need cheap bland artwork too.
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Vol2tex
09/18/18 10:40:52 AM
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ColdOne666 posted...
Those paintings where actually pretty good, and lol at the art snobs itt.


On a technical level, but not really in terms of creativity.
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Vol2tex
09/18/18 12:28:51 PM
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Questionmarktarius
09/18/18 12:32:46 PM
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Now imagine in Van Gogh became a dictator.
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Zikten
09/18/18 12:33:41 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
His contemporaries thought his paintings looked "lifeless" because of the lack of people. Quite technically skilled though.

Just think if they had not been such elitists

Probably would not have prevented WW2 but might have prevented the Holocaust
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ArchiePeck
09/18/18 12:36:27 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
Those paintings where actually pretty good, and lol at the art snobs itt.


Eh, they just appear to be literal paintings of things, I'm not reading any storytelling or metaphors in them. I can't imagine an art school being particularly impressed if a layman like me isn't.
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Raikuro
09/18/18 12:39:11 PM
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hmm yes, I find his artwork shallow and pedantic
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Trelve
09/18/18 12:40:19 PM
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Bok_Choi posted...


He also had no flair, and he was afraid to try different things


He had no style, he had no grace. This fuhrer had a funny face.
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Wil_Knights
09/18/18 12:43:54 PM
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If he were accepted to Vienna art school then history may have been completely different.
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Questionmarktarius
09/18/18 12:48:59 PM
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ArchiePeck posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
Those paintings where actually pretty good, and lol at the art snobs itt.


Eh, they just appear to be literal paintings of things, I'm not reading any storytelling or metaphors in them. I can't imagine an art school being particularly impressed if a layman like me isn't.

Yeah... this is why I'll never get art.
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Alpha218
09/18/18 12:50:25 PM
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Bok_Choi
09/18/18 1:04:12 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
ArchiePeck posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
Those paintings where actually pretty good, and lol at the art snobs itt.


Eh, they just appear to be literal paintings of things, I'm not reading any storytelling or metaphors in them. I can't imagine an art school being particularly impressed if a layman like me isn't.

Yeah... this is why I'll never get art.

how can we put this

i guess in more "layman's terms" (reluctant to say because art is up to every viewer; we can only offer our own views and determine if it's good or ugly art IMO) it's like he remastered an old classic film, or he re-made it as an indie film to try and make a name for himself

people were like "yeah okay you did a good job with good material"
but nobody is impressed really

what did hitler do to advance the field? did he create new concepts to think of in art?

He faced something an artist in the century before him faced
This guy made art a lot like Hitler's, but it wasn't going anywhere.
Eventually, he reduced his ideas to just the primary colors (RBY), shades (black grey white), and directions (vertical horizontal)

and suddenly it was going places
He reduced the form to ones of its simplest forms to create aesthetic appeal

you may have seen his work
hOsIKpi

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Questionmarktarius
09/18/18 1:06:24 PM
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Bok_Choi posted...
piet mondrian

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_Goggalor_
09/18/18 1:07:06 PM
#40:


Bok_Choi posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
ArchiePeck posted...
ColdOne666 posted...
Those paintings where actually pretty good, and lol at the art snobs itt.


Eh, they just appear to be literal paintings of things, I'm not reading any storytelling or metaphors in them. I can't imagine an art school being particularly impressed if a layman like me isn't.

Yeah... this is why I'll never get art.

how can we put this

i guess in more "layman's terms" (reluctant to say because art is up to every viewer; we can only offer our own views and determine if it's good or ugly art IMO) it's like he remastered an old classic film, or he re-made it as an indie film to try and make a name for himself

people were like "yeah okay you did a good job with good material"
but nobody is impressed really

what did hitler do to advance the field? did he create new concepts to think of in art?

He faced something an artist in the century before him faced
This guy made art a lot like Hitler's, but it wasn't going anywhere.
Eventually, he reduced his ideas to just the primary colors (RBY), shades (black grey white), and directions (vertical horizontal)

and suddenly it was going places
He reduced the form to ones of its simplest forms to create aesthetic appeal

you may have seen his work
hOsIKpi

piet mondrian


I think that is a very boring and bland looking painting, but I don't care for abstract art so.. kind of looks like someone just flattened out a rubik's cube on a canvas to me.
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Vol2tex
09/18/18 3:33:05 PM
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And Mondrian became one of the most famous.
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Bok_Choi
09/18/18 3:42:20 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
"abstract" art is the end result of decadence. It didn't "progress" shit

yes
one of the fathers of modernism didn't progress shit
it doesn't matter if you personally don't find it interesting
at the time his artwork was new - to us it seems more blase because we've seen other minimalist abstract art - inspired by Mondrian's influence.
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dontIoseyourway
09/18/18 3:47:44 PM
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Mondrian is a GOAT
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Vol2tex
09/18/18 3:48:33 PM
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Bok_Choi posted...
16-BITTER posted...
"abstract" art is the end result of decadence. It didn't "progress" shit

yes
one of the fathers of modernism didn't progress shit
it doesn't matter if you personally don't find it interesting
at the time his artwork was new - to us it seems more blase because we've seen other minimalist abstract art - inspired by Mondrian's influence.


Seinfeld is unfunny
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Alpha218
09/18/18 4:00:23 PM
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Vol2tex posted...
Bok_Choi posted...
16-BITTER posted...
"abstract" art is the end result of decadence. It didn't "progress" shit

yes
one of the fathers of modernism didn't progress shit
it doesn't matter if you personally don't find it interesting
at the time his artwork was new - to us it seems more blase because we've seen other minimalist abstract art - inspired by Mondrian's influence.


Seinfeld is unfunny

Jery get iPad
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Bok_Choi
09/18/18 4:04:23 PM
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Vol2tex posted...
Bok_Choi posted...
16-BITTER posted...
"abstract" art is the end result of decadence. It didn't "progress" shit

yes
one of the fathers of modernism didn't progress shit
it doesn't matter if you personally don't find it interesting
at the time his artwork was new - to us it seems more blase because we've seen other minimalist abstract art - inspired by Mondrian's influence.


Seinfeld is unfunny

precisely
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butthole666
09/18/18 4:16:35 PM
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Many of his paintings are technically bad as well as conceptually

He was fucking atrocious at perspective and scale
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dontIoseyourway
09/18/18 4:18:03 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Many if his paintings are technically bad as well as conceptually

He was fucking atrocious at perspective and scale

No he wasnt.
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lifeamovie
09/18/18 4:18:32 PM
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butthole666 posted...
Many if his paintings are technically bad as well as conceptually

He was fucking atrocious at perspective and scale

quit acting like you know shit about art

you'd see a white paper in a museum and bull shit about how its good i bet
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