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Zodd3224
09/19/18 11:31:00 AM
#103:


Bok_Choi posted...
Always fascinating to see what the alt-righters on CE are thinking


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Dyinglegacy
09/19/18 11:37:24 AM
#104:


Bok_Choi posted...
Always fascinating to see what the alt-righters on CE are thinking


Sadly, some of what the poster you're referring to said does have a bit of merit to it. They just relayed it in a troll manner.

I would say that some of those are meant to offset the adversity that many minorities face.
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Bok_Choi
09/19/18 11:54:14 AM
#105:


Dyinglegacy posted...
Bok_Choi posted...
Always fascinating to see what the alt-righters on CE are thinking


Sadly, some of what the poster you're referring to said does have a bit of merit to it. They just relayed it in a troll manner.

I would say that some of those are meant to offset the adversity that many minorities face.

They warrant merit in the same way that some of what the Kim Dynasty says about America warrants merit

edit: but looks like at least YOU understand that some of it is meant to correct an imbalance, not create one.
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dontIoseyourway
09/19/18 11:55:09 AM
#106:


Piersons_Fox posted...
You can wealthy without people assuming your wealth was handed to you or that you exploited others.

It's time to stop posting.
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frogman_295
09/19/18 11:57:06 AM
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Dyinglegacy
09/19/18 12:14:01 PM
#108:


Bok_Choi posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
Bok_Choi posted...
Always fascinating to see what the alt-righters on CE are thinking


Sadly, some of what the poster you're referring to said does have a bit of merit to it. They just relayed it in a troll manner.

I would say that some of those are meant to offset the adversity that many minorities face.

They warrant merit in the same way that some of what the Kim Dynasty says about America warrants merit

edit: but looks like at least YOU understand that some of it is meant to correct an imbalance, not create one.


Perhapes I worded it incorrectly. By merit, I meant to say some truth to what he said.

Which I mean, it is true to some extent. It's the reasons that it's true that some people don't understand. And what I meant by sadly, is that it's sad that it even has to be like that in the first place.

Don't expect everyone to get it and sympathise, tho. Especially people who have poor class advantage. Well, actually that's a doubled edged blade. Either they will be especially understanding because they also face adversity, or they'll not give a shit about your racial adversity because they've had shit lives despite being white.
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Bok_Choi
09/19/18 12:25:19 PM
#109:


Dyinglegacy posted...
Especially people who have poor class advantage. Well, actually that's a doubled edged blade. Either they will be especially understanding because they also face adversity, or they'll not give a shit about your racial adversity because they've had shit lives despite being white.

poor people who find themselves unable to identify with the struggles of their fellow struggling minorities are often fed racist bullshit that comes from higher up as it were

they don't identify with them because they literally think they're superior

being poor sucks, whether you're a minority or not
being poor AND a minority can suck even worse
being poor BECAUSE you're a minority sucks the most
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teepan95
09/19/18 12:50:57 PM
#110:


MegaTech posted...
Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it.

Or the flipside: naturally not acting/looking a certain way and getting called out on it by all sides
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Dyinglegacy
09/19/18 12:51:59 PM
#111:


Bok_Choi posted...
they don't identify with them because they literally think they're superior


Some of them, I'm sure probably think like that, but not all of them.

There could be a number of reasons as to why they don't care. They could just have too much already on their plate. They could have it significantly worse than you do, despite skin color. A person could give them the impression that since they are white, their problems aren't as bad (a spit in the face, especially if you don't actually know about their life), and that's not an optimal way to get someone on your side.

I mean, it could be that they're just racist, but that's not my go to. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, because it obviously and absolutely does.
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Bok_Choi
09/19/18 12:52:10 PM
#112:


teepan95 posted...
MegaTech posted...
Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it.

Or the flipside: naturally not acting/looking a certain way and getting called out on it by all sides

TBH I feel that from other Koreans
That's why I don't have a lot of friends in that category; my Korean friends consist of HS friends lmao
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teepan95
09/19/18 12:53:07 PM
#113:


Bok_Choi posted...
teepan95 posted...
MegaTech posted...
Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it.

Or the flipside: naturally not acting/looking a certain way and getting called out on it by all sides

TBH I feel that from other Koreans
That's why I don't have a lot of friends in that category; my Korean friends consist of HS friends lmao

The word coconut still gives me war flashbacks lmao
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MegaTech
09/19/18 1:23:50 PM
#115:


ImAMarvel posted...
teepan95 posted...
MegaTech posted...
Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it.

Or the flipside: naturally not acting/looking a certain way and getting called out on it by all sides


This is always the fucking worst.

Yea man. It's bad even when your own race joins on that shit. Its like everyone just has to be extremely ignorant
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Zodd3224
09/19/18 1:39:13 PM
#116:


MegaTech posted...
ImAMarvel posted...
teepan95 posted...
MegaTech posted...
Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it.

Or the flipside: naturally not acting/looking a certain way and getting called out on it by all sides


This is always the fucking worst.

Yea man. It's bad even when your own race joins on that shit. Its like everyone just has to be extremely ignorant


"You dont talk black"
Thats a good one from both sides.
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EbonTitanium
09/19/18 1:47:21 PM
#117:


Zodd3224 posted...
MegaTech posted...
ImAMarvel posted...
teepan95 posted...
MegaTech posted...
Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it.

Or the flipside: naturally not acting/looking a certain way and getting called out on it by all sides


This is always the fucking worst.

Yea man. It's bad even when your own race joins on that shit. Its like everyone just has to be extremely ignorant


"You dont talk black"
Thats a good one from both sides.

I hate that. I don't know why people think each race is a hivemind.
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Dyinglegacy
09/19/18 2:11:13 PM
#118:


EbonTitanium posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
MegaTech posted...
ImAMarvel posted...
teepan95 posted...
MegaTech posted...
Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it.

Or the flipside: naturally not acting/looking a certain way and getting called out on it by all sides


This is always the fucking worst.

Yea man. It's bad even when your own race joins on that shit. Its like everyone just has to be extremely ignorant


"You dont talk black"
Thats a good one from both sides.

I hate that. I don't know why people think each race is a hivemind.


It's perpetuated by media, for sure. Or has been in the past.
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AmericaTheBrave
09/19/18 3:25:50 PM
#119:


Piersons_Fox posted...
I'm a clueless white boy


We know.
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MarqueeSeries
09/19/18 3:29:10 PM
#120:


Idk, I'm not a minority (in America anyway)

Although, I was on crutches/in a wheelchair for 3 months earlier this year. That was an eye opening experience. People honestly treat the handicapped like shit
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prince_leo
09/19/18 3:43:51 PM
#121:


Dyinglegacy posted...
There could be a number of reasons as to why they don't care. They could just have too much already on their plate. They could have it significantly worse than you do, despite skin color. A person could give them the impression that since they are white, their problems aren't as bad (a spit in the face, especially if you don't actually know about their life), and that's not an optimal way to get someone on your side.

I mean, it could be that they're just racist, but that's not my go to. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, because it obviously and absolutely does.

I have a friend just like that. he grew up poor, mom went through two divorces, had pretty much nothing growing up. he hates life and clearly has depression issues, but he still refuses to think racism is a big deal because he sees successful minorities and looks at his own shittiness
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Kazi1212
09/19/18 3:50:21 PM
#122:


Hawaiian_punch posted...


lol@whataboutism and question dodging


Oh my bad, I thought it was my obvious what my answers were based on my response.

1. No, my support has nothing to do with spiting them. My family has never supported any American President because of what I mentioned, they feel Americans policy has generally been vicious towards Muslims, regardless of who the president is. I agree with them on this and they know that, the only reason I support one candidate over another is if I think one president will be better for the economy than the other. And given the returns in my stock portfolio over the last two years and the increasing strength of the USD against other major currencies, I would have to say my support of Trump wasnt unfounded.

2. I immigrated here when I was little and became an American citizen

Is there anything else you would like me
to clarify?
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Hawaiian_punch
09/19/18 6:13:49 PM
#123:


Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...


lol@whataboutism and question dodging


Oh my bad, I thought it was my obvious what my answers were based on my response.

1. No, my support has nothing to do with spiting them. My family has never supported any American President because of what I mentioned, they feel Americans policy has generally been vicious towards Muslims, regardless of who the president is. I agree with them on this and they know that, the only reason I support one candidate over another is if I think one president will be better for the economy than the other. And given the returns in my stock portfolio over the last two years and the increasing strength of the USD against other major currencies, I would have to say my support of Trump wasnt unfounded.

2. I immigrated here when I was little and became an American citizen

Is there anything else you would like me
to clarify?


@Kazi1212

Nothing to clarify, its not like you have to respond to me. I have a lot of respect and appreciation for the fact that youre willing to chat and stuff and help me satiate my curiosity, kudos.

I wonder, arent you afraid he may strip your citizenship for some bullshit reasons such as this one form was missing a punctuation mark? He is doing that to some people, its not really a crazy what if, it is happening
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Kazi1212
09/19/18 6:55:34 PM
#124:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...


lol@whataboutism and question dodging


Oh my bad, I thought it was my obvious what my answers were based on my response.

1. No, my support has nothing to do with spiting them. My family has never supported any American President because of what I mentioned, they feel Americans policy has generally been vicious towards Muslims, regardless of who the president is. I agree with them on this and they know that, the only reason I support one candidate over another is if I think one president will be better for the economy than the other. And given the returns in my stock portfolio over the last two years and the increasing strength of the USD against other major currencies, I would have to say my support of Trump wasnt unfounded.

2. I immigrated here when I was little and became an American citizen

Is there anything else you would like me
to clarify?


I wonder, arent you afraid he may strip your citizenship for some bullshit reasons such as this one form was missing a punctuation mark? He is doing that to some people, its not really a crazy what if, it is happening


@Hawaiian_punch

Im worried about that as much as Im worried about abortion rights being revoked, which is to say hardly worried at all because of the improbability of such a scenario.

Denaturalization is an extremely rare occurrence in the US. And while I get Trump has a created task force specifically to root out people that can be denaturalized, theres has only been 1 such case of denaturalization under the tenure of the Trump administration thus far. So statistically it seems highly unlikely this is something I have to worry about. If that number climbs to 100 or so than it probably become a more reasonable thing to worry about because we havent had close to 100 denaturalizations(excluding war criminals and those guilty of treason) in all of US history.

Additionally, just a bit of factual information, the reason Trump was legally able to create his task force is because of Operation Janus created under the Obama admin. The objective of Operation Janus was to prevent aliens who received a final removal order under a different identity from obtaining immigration benefits. Many US citizens were investigated under Janus but no denaturalizations occurred. Trump only pushed this program further with his task force, and so far we have 1 denaturalizations under the Trump admin.

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/2016/OIG-16-130-Sep16.pdf
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TimmyJimBims
09/19/18 7:01:48 PM
#125:


Im black and its not like anything really. You face assholes sometimes but thats just life

Some white freshman said the n-word the other day in my class and I wanted to beat his ass but its whatever.

Be more specific TC, what do you want to know?
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Hawaiian_punch
09/19/18 8:55:48 PM
#126:


Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...


lol@whataboutism and question dodging


Oh my bad, I thought it was my obvious what my answers were based on my response.

1. No, my support has nothing to do with spiting them. My family has never supported any American President because of what I mentioned, they feel Americans policy has generally been vicious towards Muslims, regardless of who the president is. I agree with them on this and they know that, the only reason I support one candidate over another is if I think one president will be better for the economy than the other. And given the returns in my stock portfolio over the last two years and the increasing strength of the USD against other major currencies, I would have to say my support of Trump wasnt unfounded.

2. I immigrated here when I was little and became an American citizen

Is there anything else you would like me
to clarify?


I wonder, arent you afraid he may strip your citizenship for some bullshit reasons such as this one form was missing a punctuation mark? He is doing that to some people, its not really a crazy what if, it is happening


@Hawaiian_punch

Im worried about that as much as Im worried about abortion rights being revoked, which is to say hardly worried at all because of the improbability of such a scenario.

Denaturalization is an extremely rare occurrence in the US. And while I get Trump has a created task force specifically to root out people that can be denaturalized, theres has only been 1 such case of denaturalization under the tenure of the Trump administration thus far. So statistically it seems highly unlikely this is something I have to worry about. If that number climbs to 100 or so than it probably become a more reasonable thing to worry about because we havent had close to 100 denaturalizations(excluding war criminals and those guilty of treason) in all of US history.

Additionally, just a bit of factual information, the reason Trump was legally able to create his task force is because of Operation Janus created under the Obama admin. The objective of Operation Janus was to prevent aliens who received a final removal order under a different identity from obtaining immigration benefits. Many US citizens were investigated under Janus but no denaturalizations occurred. Trump only pushed this program further with his task force, and so far we have 1 denaturalizations under the Trump admin.

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/2016/OIG-16-130-Sep16.pdf


We have 15 denats so far since the task force started, @Kazi1212 .
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Kazi1212
09/19/18 9:00:41 PM
#127:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...


lol@whataboutism and question dodging


Oh my bad, I thought it was my obvious what my answers were based on my response.

1. No, my support has nothing to do with spiting them. My family has never supported any American President because of what I mentioned, they feel Americans policy has generally been vicious towards Muslims, regardless of who the president is. I agree with them on this and they know that, the only reason I support one candidate over another is if I think one president will be better for the economy than the other. And given the returns in my stock portfolio over the last two years and the increasing strength of the USD against other major currencies, I would have to say my support of Trump wasnt unfounded.

2. I immigrated here when I was little and became an American citizen

Is there anything else you would like me
to clarify?


I wonder, arent you afraid he may strip your citizenship for some bullshit reasons such as this one form was missing a punctuation mark? He is doing that to some people, its not really a crazy what if, it is happening


@Hawaiian_punch

Im worried about that as much as Im worried about abortion rights being revoked, which is to say hardly worried at all because of the improbability of such a scenario.

Denaturalization is an extremely rare occurrence in the US. And while I get Trump has a created task force specifically to root out people that can be denaturalized, theres has only been 1 such case of denaturalization under the tenure of the Trump administration thus far. So statistically it seems highly unlikely this is something I have to worry about. If that number climbs to 100 or so than it probably become a more reasonable thing to worry about because we havent had close to 100 denaturalizations(excluding war criminals and those guilty of treason) in all of US history.

Additionally, just a bit of factual information, the reason Trump was legally able to create his task force is because of Operation Janus created under the Obama admin. The objective of Operation Janus was to prevent aliens who received a final removal order under a different identity from obtaining immigration benefits. Many US citizens were investigated under Janus but no denaturalizations occurred. Trump only pushed this program further with his task force, and so far we have 1 denaturalizations under the Trump admin.

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/2016/OIG-16-130-Sep16.pdf


We have 15 denats so far since the task force started, @Kazi1212 .


Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization?
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Hawaiian_punch
09/19/18 9:05:52 PM
#128:


Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...


lol@whataboutism and question dodging


Oh my bad, I thought it was my obvious what my answers were based on my response.

1. No, my support has nothing to do with spiting them. My family has never supported any American President because of what I mentioned, they feel Americans policy has generally been vicious towards Muslims, regardless of who the president is. I agree with them on this and they know that, the only reason I support one candidate over another is if I think one president will be better for the economy than the other. And given the returns in my stock portfolio over the last two years and the increasing strength of the USD against other major currencies, I would have to say my support of Trump wasnt unfounded.

2. I immigrated here when I was little and became an American citizen

Is there anything else you would like me
to clarify?


I wonder, arent you afraid he may strip your citizenship for some bullshit reasons such as this one form was missing a punctuation mark? He is doing that to some people, its not really a crazy what if, it is happening


@Hawaiian_punch

Im worried about that as much as Im worried about abortion rights being revoked, which is to say hardly worried at all because of the improbability of such a scenario.

Denaturalization is an extremely rare occurrence in the US. And while I get Trump has a created task force specifically to root out people that can be denaturalized, theres has only been 1 such case of denaturalization under the tenure of the Trump administration thus far. So statistically it seems highly unlikely this is something I have to worry about. If that number climbs to 100 or so than it probably become a more reasonable thing to worry about because we havent had close to 100 denaturalizations(excluding war criminals and those guilty of treason) in all of US history.

Additionally, just a bit of factual information, the reason Trump was legally able to create his task force is because of Operation Janus created under the Obama admin. The objective of Operation Janus was to prevent aliens who received a final removal order under a different identity from obtaining immigration benefits. Many US citizens were investigated under Janus but no denaturalizations occurred. Trump only pushed this program further with his task force, and so far we have 1 denaturalizations under the Trump admin.

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/2016/OIG-16-130-Sep16.pdf


We have 15 denats so far since the task force started, @Kazi1212 .


Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization?


Im answering right now so you know I am not ignoring you and I plan to answer. Ill go look for the source
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Kazi1212
09/19/18 9:07:33 PM
#129:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...


lol@whataboutism and question dodging


Oh my bad, I thought it was my obvious what my answers were based on my response.

1. No, my support has nothing to do with spiting them. My family has never supported any American President because of what I mentioned, they feel Americans policy has generally been vicious towards Muslims, regardless of who the president is. I agree with them on this and they know that, the only reason I support one candidate over another is if I think one president will be better for the economy than the other. And given the returns in my stock portfolio over the last two years and the increasing strength of the USD against other major currencies, I would have to say my support of Trump wasnt unfounded.

2. I immigrated here when I was little and became an American citizen

Is there anything else you would like me
to clarify?


I wonder, arent you afraid he may strip your citizenship for some bullshit reasons such as this one form was missing a punctuation mark? He is doing that to some people, its not really a crazy what if, it is happening


@Hawaiian_punch

Im worried about that as much as Im worried about abortion rights being revoked, which is to say hardly worried at all because of the improbability of such a scenario.

Denaturalization is an extremely rare occurrence in the US. And while I get Trump has a created task force specifically to root out people that can be denaturalized, theres has only been 1 such case of denaturalization under the tenure of the Trump administration thus far. So statistically it seems highly unlikely this is something I have to worry about. If that number climbs to 100 or so than it probably become a more reasonable thing to worry about because we havent had close to 100 denaturalizations(excluding war criminals and those guilty of treason) in all of US history.

Additionally, just a bit of factual information, the reason Trump was legally able to create his task force is because of Operation Janus created under the Obama admin. The objective of Operation Janus was to prevent aliens who received a final removal order under a different identity from obtaining immigration benefits. Many US citizens were investigated under Janus but no denaturalizations occurred. Trump only pushed this program further with his task force, and so far we have 1 denaturalizations under the Trump admin.

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/2016/OIG-16-130-Sep16.pdf


We have 15 denats so far since the task force started, @Kazi1212 .


Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization?


Im answering right now so you know I am not ignoring you and I plan to answer. Ill go look for the source


No worries, I honestly only saw they had 1 reported case of denaturalization and that was about 2 months ago, perhaps the program ramped up.
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BJ-blazkowics
09/19/18 9:07:43 PM
#130:


Hawaiian_punch posted...
Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization?

Im answering right now so you know I am not ignoring you and I plan to answer. Ill go look for the source


@Kazi1212 @Hawaiian_punch I have the source:

https://www.hoppocklawfirm.com/operation-janus-operation-second-look-denaturalization-citizens-removal-orders/

There you go
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Kazi1212
09/19/18 9:10:31 PM
#131:


BJ-blazkowics posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization?

Im answering right now so you know I am not ignoring you and I plan to answer. Ill go look for the source


@Kazi1212 @Hawaiian_punch I have the source:

https://www.hoppocklawfirm.com/operation-janus-operation-second-look-denaturalization-citizens-removal-orders/

There you go


Not loading on my mobile unfortunately, will have to check when I get home. But at the top it mentions Operation Janus, is the number including denaturalizations under the Obama admin as well?
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metralo
09/19/18 9:11:31 PM
#132:


according to white people its really really really great and according to minorities it sucks shit

so clearly listen to white people and not minorities.
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BJ-blazkowics
09/19/18 9:26:51 PM
#133:


Kazi1212 posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization?

Im answering right now so you know I am not ignoring you and I plan to answer. Ill go look for the source


@Kazi1212 @Hawaiian_punch I have the source:

https://www.hoppocklawfirm.com/operation-janus-operation-second-look-denaturalization-citizens-removal-orders/

There you go


Not loading on my mobile unfortunately, will have to check when I get home. But at the top it mentions Operation Janus, is the number including denaturalizations under the Obama admin as well?


Criminal Convictions:

NameDateVenueLast ActionLink
Enite Alindor a/k/a Odette Dureland (56, Winter Haven)2018, Mar.Middle District of FloridaJury Conviction (sentencing set for June 7, 2018); DenaturalizedPress Release;
Munia Parvin, a/k/a Zarrin Hoque (46, Sarasota)2017, Dec.Middle District of FloridaGuilty Plea, Convicted, Sentenced (six months prison); DenaturalizedPress Release;
Natasha Pierre (46, Davenport), a/k/a Elsie Petitfrere2017, Dec.Middle District of FloridaGuilty Plea, Convicted, Sentenced (six months prison); DenaturalizedPress Release;

Civil Denaturalizations:

NameDateVenueGood Cause AffiantDOJ Trial AttorneyLast ActionSummaryLink
Humayun Kabir Rahman fka Md Humayun Kabir Talukder aka Ganu Miah aka Shafi Uddin

2018, FebSouthern District of MichiganCaroline Lyly NguyenAaron R. Petty; Peter Kaplan (AUSA)Filed US v. Humayun Kabir Rahman. Def. Counsel isComplaint filed Feb, 2018 (False Testimony, procured by fraud, procured by concealment). Def. attorney entered.Complaint; Press Release; PACER Link

Baljinder Singh aka Davinder Singh2018, JanDistrict of
New Jersey

Caroline Mazzara DAngeloAaron R. PettyDenaturalized US v. SinghDOJ filed Complaint (procured by fraud, procured by concealment). No Answer. DOJ then moved for judgment on the pleadings (rather than default). D didnt file an Answer or respond to motion, which was granted.Judgment, Judgment Press Release, USCIS Press Release, Complaint, Press Release, PACER Link

Parvez Manzoor Khan aka Mohammad Akhtar and Jaweed Khan2017, Sept.Middle District of FloridaCaroline Lyly NguyenAaron R. PettyDOJ Moved for Judgment on the Pleadings US v. Parvez Manzoor KhanDOJ Filed Complaint (false testimony, procured by fraud, procured by concealment). D filed Answer. DOJ moved for judgment on pleadings. D opposed. Discovery deadline was 3/1/18. No discovery motions filed.

Complaint, Press Release, PACER Link

Rashid Mahmood aka Rashid Mehmood2017, Sept.District of ConnecticutChristopher J. WhiteJoseph F. Carilli, Jr.; Carlyn Ikari (AUSA)

Filed US v. Rashid Mahmood (D. Conn.)Complaint filed Sept. 2017 (procured by fraud, false testimony, unlawful acts, procured by concealment). No request for summons. AUSA requested summons Nov. 2017. Notice filed Dec. 2017.Complaint, Press Release, PACER Link

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Hawaiian_punch
09/19/18 9:38:37 PM
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^ so no, its since the task force started
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dontIoseyourway
09/19/18 9:43:01 PM
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@metralo posted...
according to white people its really really really great and according to minorities it sucks shit

so clearly listen to white people and not minorities.

white people are a minority
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metralo
09/19/18 9:53:56 PM
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arent you the guy that got super duper triggered about the term toxic masculinity

yeah you arent one to listen to speak since you clearly have trouble with critical thinking
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bobaban
09/19/18 10:19:27 PM
#137:


KillerKhan420 posted...
Whites are a minority worldwide, Asians got everyone beat, and Africans I think are in second. Eskimos are the world's biggest minority.


Minority where it counts, no one wants to be the majority in some 3rd world shithole.
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dontIoseyourway
09/19/18 10:34:56 PM
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@metralo posted...
arent you the guy that got super duper triggered about the term toxic masculinity

yeah you arent one to listen to speak since you clearly have trouble with critical thinking

Asians are the majority and i was not "triggered"
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Hawaiian_punch
09/19/18 10:49:51 PM
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Is dontloseyourway bok_choi?
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09/19/18 11:03:47 PM
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@Hawaiian_punch posted...
Is dontloseyourway bok_choi?

No.
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Bok_Choi
09/20/18 2:21:55 AM
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how could you think that's me
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Hawaiian_punch
09/20/18 7:32:27 AM
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Bok_Choi posted...
how could you think that's me


Yeah I apologize bok
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dontIoseyourway
09/20/18 11:58:11 AM
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ROD
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Kazi1212
09/20/18 4:03:02 PM
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BJ-blazkowics posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization?

Im answering right now so you know I am not ignoring you and I plan to answer. Ill go look for the source


@Kazi1212 @Hawaiian_punch I have the source:

https://www.hoppocklawfirm.com/operation-janus-operation-second-look-denaturalization-citizens-removal-orders/

There you go

Hawaiian_punch posted...
^ so no, its since the task force started


Ok so i got a chance to look this over on my desktop,according to the site there seems to be 4 cases of denaturalizations thus far under the Trump admin, the rest are currently under investigation and has not been denaturalized as of yet from what I understand. The 4 cases are linked below:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/woman-sentenced-and-denaturalized-obtaining-us-citizenship-lying-officials

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/winter-haven-resident-convicted-obtaining-us-citizenship-fraud

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/second-woman-sentenced-and-denaturalized-obtaining-us-citizenship-through-lies

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/997236/download
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Hawaiian_punch
09/20/18 4:34:11 PM
#145:


Kazi1212 posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization?

Im answering right now so you know I am not ignoring you and I plan to answer. Ill go look for the source


@Kazi1212 @Hawaiian_punch I have the source:

https://www.hoppocklawfirm.com/operation-janus-operation-second-look-denaturalization-citizens-removal-orders/

There you go

Hawaiian_punch posted...
^ so no, its since the task force started


Ok so i got a chance to look this over on my desktop,according to the site there seems to be 4 cases of denaturalizations thus far under the Trump admin, the rest are currently under investigation and has not been denaturalized as of yet from what I understand. The 4 cases are linked below:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/woman-sentenced-and-denaturalized-obtaining-us-citizenship-lying-officials

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/winter-haven-resident-convicted-obtaining-us-citizenship-fraud

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/second-woman-sentenced-and-denaturalized-obtaining-us-citizenship-through-lies

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/997236/download


And how does this make you feel?

Does the possibility of getting MAGAd over maybe a tiny typo in a form you filed years ago make you upset?
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Kazi1212
09/20/18 4:49:29 PM
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I'm not sure if the cases of denaturalizations here were because of tiny typos, did you read the articles? It seems 2 of them actually admitted to fraud and the other 2 were convicted based on using different names and false representation. If it was as easy to denaturalize someone on the basis of a typo, certainly hundreds of more people would be getting 'MAGA'd' by now I imagine, I dont think that sounds too unreasonable if that was the case, but thats just my opinion. In any case, the statistical improbability of this occurring to my citizenship status is so absurdly low that I rather worry about whether im gonna survive the next time I go out driving.
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Hawaiian_punch
09/20/18 5:32:25 PM
#147:


Kazi1212 posted...
I'm not sure if the cases of denaturalizations here were because of tiny typos, did you read the articles? It seems 2 of them actually admitted to fraud and the other 2 were convicted based on using different names and false representation. If it was as easy to denaturalize someone on the basis of a typo, certainly hundreds of more people would be getting 'MAGA'd' by now I imagine, I dont think that sounds too unreasonable if that was the case, but thats just my opinion. In any case, the statistical improbability of this occurring to my citizenship status is so absurdly low that I rather worry about whether im gonna survive the next time I go out driving.


Maybe. Maybe not. But do you read this and think yes! This is the kind of guy I want to be a supporter of! ?
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Kazi1212
09/20/18 6:13:53 PM
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Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
I'm not sure if the cases of denaturalizations here were because of tiny typos, did you read the articles? It seems 2 of them actually admitted to fraud and the other 2 were convicted based on using different names and false representation. If it was as easy to denaturalize someone on the basis of a typo, certainly hundreds of more people would be getting 'MAGA'd' by now I imagine, I dont think that sounds too unreasonable if that was the case, but thats just my opinion. In any case, the statistical improbability of this occurring to my citizenship status is so absurdly low that I rather worry about whether im gonna survive the next time I go out driving.


Maybe. Maybe not. But do you read this and think yes! This is the kind of guy I want to be a supporter of! ?


No, but then again, I havent thought that of any politician I voted for.
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