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Zodd3224 09/19/18 11:31:00 AM #103: |
Bok_Choi posted...
Always fascinating to see what the alt-righters on CE are thinking Trump's America --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dyinglegacy 09/19/18 11:37:24 AM #104: |
Bok_Choi posted...
Always fascinating to see what the alt-righters on CE are thinking Sadly, some of what the poster you're referring to said does have a bit of merit to it. They just relayed it in a troll manner. I would say that some of those are meant to offset the adversity that many minorities face. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 25404 losses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bok_Choi 09/19/18 11:54:14 AM #105: |
Dyinglegacy posted...
Bok_Choi posted...Always fascinating to see what the alt-righters on CE are thinking They warrant merit in the same way that some of what the Kim Dynasty says about America warrants merit edit: but looks like at least YOU understand that some of it is meant to correct an imbalance, not create one. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dontIoseyourway 09/19/18 11:55:09 AM #106: |
Piersons_Fox posted...
You can wealthy without people assuming your wealth was handed to you or that you exploited others. It's time to stop posting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frogman_295 09/19/18 11:57:06 AM #107: |
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Dyinglegacy 09/19/18 12:14:01 PM #108: |
Bok_Choi posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...Bok_Choi posted...Always fascinating to see what the alt-righters on CE are thinking Perhapes I worded it incorrectly. By merit, I meant to say some truth to what he said. Which I mean, it is true to some extent. It's the reasons that it's true that some people don't understand. And what I meant by sadly, is that it's sad that it even has to be like that in the first place. Don't expect everyone to get it and sympathise, tho. Especially people who have poor class advantage. Well, actually that's a doubled edged blade. Either they will be especially understanding because they also face adversity, or they'll not give a shit about your racial adversity because they've had shit lives despite being white. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 25404 losses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bok_Choi 09/19/18 12:25:19 PM #109: |
Dyinglegacy posted...
Especially people who have poor class advantage. Well, actually that's a doubled edged blade. Either they will be especially understanding because they also face adversity, or they'll not give a shit about your racial adversity because they've had shit lives despite being white. poor people who find themselves unable to identify with the struggles of their fellow struggling minorities are often fed racist bullshit that comes from higher up as it were they don't identify with them because they literally think they're superior being poor sucks, whether you're a minority or not being poor AND a minority can suck even worse being poor BECAUSE you're a minority sucks the most --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teepan95 09/19/18 12:50:57 PM #110: |
MegaTech posted...
Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it. Or the flipside: naturally not acting/looking a certain way and getting called out on it by all sides --- I use Gameraven and you should too. #heavilyburntpotato ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dyinglegacy 09/19/18 12:51:59 PM #111: |
Bok_Choi posted...
they don't identify with them because they literally think they're superior Some of them, I'm sure probably think like that, but not all of them. There could be a number of reasons as to why they don't care. They could just have too much already on their plate. They could have it significantly worse than you do, despite skin color. A person could give them the impression that since they are white, their problems aren't as bad (a spit in the face, especially if you don't actually know about their life), and that's not an optimal way to get someone on your side. I mean, it could be that they're just racist, but that's not my go to. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, because it obviously and absolutely does. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 25404 losses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bok_Choi 09/19/18 12:52:10 PM #112: |
teepan95 posted...
MegaTech posted...Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it. TBH I feel that from other Koreans That's why I don't have a lot of friends in that category; my Korean friends consist of HS friends lmao --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teepan95 09/19/18 12:53:07 PM #113: |
Bok_Choi posted...
teepan95 posted...MegaTech posted... The word coconut still gives me war flashbacks lmao --- I use Gameraven and you should too. #heavilyburntpotato ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MegaTech 09/19/18 1:23:50 PM #115: |
ImAMarvel posted...
teepan95 posted...MegaTech posted...Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it. Yea man. It's bad even when your own race joins on that shit. Its like everyone just has to be extremely ignorant --- There's gloom and fear in my heart when a culture fades; I drip a tear for the art and I adulterate. https://imgur.com/c8xCRi7 - CoolbeansAvi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zodd3224 09/19/18 1:39:13 PM #116: |
MegaTech posted...
ImAMarvel posted...teepan95 posted...MegaTech posted...Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it. "You dont talk black" Thats a good one from both sides. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EbonTitanium 09/19/18 1:47:21 PM #117: |
Zodd3224 posted...
MegaTech posted...ImAMarvel posted...teepan95 posted...MegaTech posted...Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it. I hate that. I don't know why people think each race is a hivemind. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dyinglegacy 09/19/18 2:11:13 PM #118: |
EbonTitanium posted...
Zodd3224 posted...MegaTech posted...ImAMarvel posted...teepan95 posted...MegaTech posted...Having that feeling in the back of your head you need to act or look a certain way to help sway the negative perception of your race or not be judged by it. It's perpetuated by media, for sure. Or has been in the past. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 25404 losses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AmericaTheBrave 09/19/18 3:25:50 PM #119: |
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MarqueeSeries 09/19/18 3:29:10 PM #120: |
Idk, I'm not a minority (in America anyway)
Although, I was on crutches/in a wheelchair for 3 months earlier this year. That was an eye opening experience. People honestly treat the handicapped like shit --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 09/19/18 3:43:51 PM #121: |
Dyinglegacy posted...
There could be a number of reasons as to why they don't care. They could just have too much already on their plate. They could have it significantly worse than you do, despite skin color. A person could give them the impression that since they are white, their problems aren't as bad (a spit in the face, especially if you don't actually know about their life), and that's not an optimal way to get someone on your side. I have a friend just like that. he grew up poor, mom went through two divorces, had pretty much nothing growing up. he hates life and clearly has depression issues, but he still refuses to think racism is a big deal because he sees successful minorities and looks at his own shittiness --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 09/19/18 3:50:21 PM #122: |
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Oh my bad, I thought it was my obvious what my answers were based on my response. 1. No, my support has nothing to do with spiting them. My family has never supported any American President because of what I mentioned, they feel Americans policy has generally been vicious towards Muslims, regardless of who the president is. I agree with them on this and they know that, the only reason I support one candidate over another is if I think one president will be better for the economy than the other. And given the returns in my stock portfolio over the last two years and the increasing strength of the USD against other major currencies, I would have to say my support of Trump wasnt unfounded. 2. I immigrated here when I was little and became an American citizen Is there anything else you would like me to clarify? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hawaiian_punch 09/19/18 6:13:49 PM #123: |
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted... @Kazi1212 Nothing to clarify, its not like you have to respond to me. I have a lot of respect and appreciation for the fact that youre willing to chat and stuff and help me satiate my curiosity, kudos. I wonder, arent you afraid he may strip your citizenship for some bullshit reasons such as this one form was missing a punctuation mark? He is doing that to some people, its not really a crazy what if, it is happening ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 09/19/18 6:55:34 PM #124: |
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...Hawaiian_punch posted... @Hawaiian_punch Im worried about that as much as Im worried about abortion rights being revoked, which is to say hardly worried at all because of the improbability of such a scenario. Denaturalization is an extremely rare occurrence in the US. And while I get Trump has a created task force specifically to root out people that can be denaturalized, theres has only been 1 such case of denaturalization under the tenure of the Trump administration thus far. So statistically it seems highly unlikely this is something I have to worry about. If that number climbs to 100 or so than it probably become a more reasonable thing to worry about because we havent had close to 100 denaturalizations(excluding war criminals and those guilty of treason) in all of US history. Additionally, just a bit of factual information, the reason Trump was legally able to create his task force is because of Operation Janus created under the Obama admin. The objective of Operation Janus was to prevent aliens who received a final removal order under a different identity from obtaining immigration benefits. Many US citizens were investigated under Janus but no denaturalizations occurred. Trump only pushed this program further with his task force, and so far we have 1 denaturalizations under the Trump admin. https://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/2016/OIG-16-130-Sep16.pdf --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimmyJimBims 09/19/18 7:01:48 PM #125: |
Im black and its not like anything really. You face assholes sometimes but thats just life
Some white freshman said the n-word the other day in my class and I wanted to beat his ass but its whatever. Be more specific TC, what do you want to know? --- "Thank you for the donation TimmyJimBims" - Technoblade ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hawaiian_punch 09/19/18 8:55:48 PM #126: |
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...Kazi1212 posted...Hawaiian_punch posted... We have 15 denats so far since the task force started, @Kazi1212 . ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 09/19/18 9:00:41 PM #127: |
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...Hawaiian_punch posted...Kazi1212 posted...Hawaiian_punch posted... Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hawaiian_punch 09/19/18 9:05:52 PM #128: |
Kazi1212 posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...Kazi1212 posted...Hawaiian_punch posted...Kazi1212 posted...Hawaiian_punch posted... Im answering right now so you know I am not ignoring you and I plan to answer. Ill go look for the source ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 09/19/18 9:07:33 PM #129: |
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...Hawaiian_punch posted...Kazi1212 posted...Hawaiian_punch posted...Kazi1212 posted...Hawaiian_punch posted... No worries, I honestly only saw they had 1 reported case of denaturalization and that was about 2 months ago, perhaps the program ramped up. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BJ-blazkowics 09/19/18 9:07:43 PM #130: |
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization? @Kazi1212 @Hawaiian_punch I have the source: https://www.hoppocklawfirm.com/operation-janus-operation-second-look-denaturalization-citizens-removal-orders/ There you go --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 09/19/18 9:10:31 PM #131: |
BJ-blazkowics posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization? Not loading on my mobile unfortunately, will have to check when I get home. But at the top it mentions Operation Janus, is the number including denaturalizations under the Obama admin as well? --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 09/19/18 9:11:31 PM #132: |
according to white people its really really really great and according to minorities it sucks shit
so clearly listen to white people and not minorities. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BJ-blazkowics 09/19/18 9:26:51 PM #133: |
Kazi1212 posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...Hawaiian_punch posted...Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization? Criminal Convictions: --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hawaiian_punch 09/19/18 9:38:37 PM #134: |
^ so no, its since the task force started
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dontIoseyourway 09/19/18 9:43:01 PM #135: |
@metralo posted...
according to white people its really really really great and according to minorities it sucks shit white people are a minority ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 09/19/18 9:53:56 PM #136: |
arent you the guy that got super duper triggered about the term toxic masculinity
yeah you arent one to listen to speak since you clearly have trouble with critical thinking --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bobaban 09/19/18 10:19:27 PM #137: |
KillerKhan420 posted...
Whites are a minority worldwide, Asians got everyone beat, and Africans I think are in second. Eskimos are the world's biggest minority. Minority where it counts, no one wants to be the majority in some 3rd world shithole. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dontIoseyourway 09/19/18 10:34:56 PM #138: |
@metralo posted...
arent you the guy that got super duper triggered about the term toxic masculinity Asians are the majority and i was not "triggered" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hawaiian_punch 09/19/18 10:49:51 PM #139: |
Is dontloseyourway bok_choi?
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dontIoseyourway 09/19/18 11:03:47 PM #140: |
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Bok_Choi 09/20/18 2:21:55 AM #141: |
how could you think that's me
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Hawaiian_punch 09/20/18 7:32:27 AM #142: |
Bok_Choi posted...
how could you think that's me Yeah I apologize bok ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 11:58:11 AM #143: |
ROD
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Kazi1212 09/20/18 4:03:02 PM #144: |
BJ-blazkowics posted...
Hawaiian_punch posted...Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization? Hawaiian_punch posted... ^ so no, its since the task force started Ok so i got a chance to look this over on my desktop,according to the site there seems to be 4 cases of denaturalizations thus far under the Trump admin, the rest are currently under investigation and has not been denaturalized as of yet from what I understand. The 4 cases are linked below: https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/woman-sentenced-and-denaturalized-obtaining-us-citizenship-lying-officials https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/winter-haven-resident-convicted-obtaining-us-citizenship-fraud https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/second-woman-sentenced-and-denaturalized-obtaining-us-citizenship-through-lies https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/997236/download --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hawaiian_punch 09/20/18 4:34:11 PM #145: |
Kazi1212 posted...
BJ-blazkowics posted...Hawaiian_punch posted...Do you have a source for this? Do you mean 15 people actually denaturalized or being investigated for denaturalization? And how does this make you feel? Does the possibility of getting MAGAd over maybe a tiny typo in a form you filed years ago make you upset? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 09/20/18 4:49:29 PM #146: |
I'm not sure if the cases of denaturalizations here were because of tiny typos, did you read the articles? It seems 2 of them actually admitted to fraud and the other 2 were convicted based on using different names and false representation. If it was as easy to denaturalize someone on the basis of a typo, certainly hundreds of more people would be getting 'MAGA'd' by now I imagine, I dont think that sounds too unreasonable if that was the case, but thats just my opinion. In any case, the statistical improbability of this occurring to my citizenship status is so absurdly low that I rather worry about whether im gonna survive the next time I go out driving.
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Hawaiian_punch 09/20/18 5:32:25 PM #147: |
Kazi1212 posted...
I'm not sure if the cases of denaturalizations here were because of tiny typos, did you read the articles? It seems 2 of them actually admitted to fraud and the other 2 were convicted based on using different names and false representation. If it was as easy to denaturalize someone on the basis of a typo, certainly hundreds of more people would be getting 'MAGA'd' by now I imagine, I dont think that sounds too unreasonable if that was the case, but thats just my opinion. In any case, the statistical improbability of this occurring to my citizenship status is so absurdly low that I rather worry about whether im gonna survive the next time I go out driving. Maybe. Maybe not. But do you read this and think yes! This is the kind of guy I want to be a supporter of! ? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kazi1212 09/20/18 6:13:53 PM #148: |
Hawaiian_punch posted...
Kazi1212 posted...I'm not sure if the cases of denaturalizations here were because of tiny typos, did you read the articles? It seems 2 of them actually admitted to fraud and the other 2 were convicted based on using different names and false representation. If it was as easy to denaturalize someone on the basis of a typo, certainly hundreds of more people would be getting 'MAGA'd' by now I imagine, I dont think that sounds too unreasonable if that was the case, but thats just my opinion. In any case, the statistical improbability of this occurring to my citizenship status is so absurdly low that I rather worry about whether im gonna survive the next time I go out driving. No, but then again, I havent thought that of any politician I voted for. --- I don't know my gimmick "Does that sound reasonable to you?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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