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known2FAIL 09/17/18 3:19:38 PM #51: |
So the main problem with a movement like this and Black Lives Matter isn't the movements themselves... but the fact that the movements lack a face? A leader per say?
When ignorant people use #blacklivesmatter without knowing the details they ruin the impact of it because there is no one to rebute it. Same for #metoo since it takes zero evidence to do this with no major party being held responsible. Movements need a figure head or they seem to get into situations like this. Just someone to say that we don't support this particular situation or individual. --- I don't know why I'm playing Destiny 2... but I am... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 09/17/18 3:20:02 PM #52: |
known2FAIL posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...known2FAIL posted...Zikten posted...What about all the non famous normal college students who get kicked out of school without a trial cause the schools are so scared they just auto believe every single accusation The same people who are raping and don't give a shit about others in order to have their power trip are the ones approaching it on the other side and taking advantage of accusations to ruin people. I'd say 50/50. I've heard more women tell me they've been raped than men tell me they have had false rape accusations against them (I have no reason to doubt either), but that's just me. Making the accusation is the more readily available crime of opportunity. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboLaserGandhi 09/17/18 3:26:31 PM #53: |
MrNintendo1213 posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...Because it's done first and foremost with the intention to tank men's careers due to feminist bitterness about male success. They dig hard enough, they find a high profile male who had a questionable sexual encounter and destroy him. Oh there's no doubt most of these guys are shitbags, but I'm just pointing out the shitty parts of the movement and the excuses people use to justify their real motives. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lil_Bit83 09/17/18 3:27:02 PM #54: |
Because some of them seem to do it out of malicious spite and lie about it. Granted its not a new thing people do, but its a fucked up thing to do to both those falsely accused, and to real victims of sexual abuse.
Unfortunately there will always be petty douchebags who screw up things for everyone. --- I'm a chick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 09/17/18 3:32:24 PM #55: |
nemu posted...
gunplagirl posted...Vertania posted...gunplagirl posted...This. Everyone else? Maybe they lost a job but what happened next? A few months (months, not even a year) passed and they we're usually reinstated to their old job. At worse they were a comedian, disappeared for a year and then came back with a routine with jokes about rape. Guy sexually harassed and pressured women into situations where they were uncomfortable turning him down for sex. Maybe not rape but a tactic utilized by rapists. See also, that Always Sunny clip about implications. If you think rape jokes are funny, I strongly advise you never interact with women ever because you're part of the problem. Hell, I'd advise you simply remove yourself from society and live as a hermit banging rocks around in a cave. --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 09/17/18 3:33:51 PM #56: |
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Because it's done first and foremost with the intention to tank men's careers due to feminist bitterness about male success. They dig hard enough, they find a high profile male who had a questionable sexual encounter and destroy him. Lol. --- Sarcasm is my basic function. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamer167 09/17/18 3:34:09 PM #57: |
The blind followers of the movement are very aggressive, angry, and their main goal when the find a target is destroy their life.
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gunplagirl 09/17/18 3:37:02 PM #58: |
gamer167 posted...
The blind followers of the movement are very aggressive, angry, and their main goal when the find a target is destroy their life. We're not talking about Trump supporters here --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboLaserGandhi 09/17/18 3:37:52 PM #59: |
gunplagirl posted...
gamer167 posted...The blind followers of the movement are very aggressive, angry, and their main goal when the find a target is destroy their life. por que no los dos? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrPeppers 09/17/18 3:38:24 PM #61: |
gunplagirl posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...No one's life got ruined because of #MeToo. The only people whose lives are ruined are the ones who actually committed crimes and are legitimately facing jail time (Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc.) Its so deliciously interesting how you selectively block sympathy for the collateral damage caused, yet almost every other unfortunate event has you calling to arms. Very utilitarian of you. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThanksUglyGod 09/17/18 3:40:18 PM #63: |
Vertania posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...No one's life got ruined because of #MeToo. The only people whose lives are ruined are the ones who actually committed crimes and are legitimately facing jail time (Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc.) I dunno who Steve Wynn is. Chris Hardwick got his job back Louis CK is doing comedy again, and has been collecting royalties from his work the whole time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreatEvilEmpire 09/17/18 3:41:58 PM #64: |
shockthemonkey posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...Sephiroth1288 posted...Because it's morphed into a witch hunt and catching people who did nothing wrong, like Aziz Ansari Does it matter if something bad happened or not? False accusations can ruin people's lives. There were many people on the side of the of Ansari's date initially before realizing she was full of hot air. The Duke Lacrosse team nearly had their lives ruined because of a false accusation. Look like the Mattress Girl situation where a crazy woman nearly ruined a man's life. False accusations should not happen. Period. --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 09/17/18 3:44:00 PM #65: |
MrPeppers posted...
gunplagirl posted...ThanksUglyGod posted...No one's life got ruined because of #MeToo. The only people whose lives are ruined are the ones who actually committed crimes and are legitimately facing jail time (Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc.) Utilitarianism is crappy. It makes everything a numbers game. "Cis people hate trans people, let's just butcher the trans. White people are the majority in America and suddenly all uncomfortable with other races so let's just kill all minorities." Sure that's it at its most extreme but it always subjects the minorities to abuses if the outcome will favor the majority. Also, since you mentioned utilitarianism, wasn't it John Stewart Mills who introduced the premise of higher and lower pleasures into the philosophy? --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lordgold666 09/17/18 3:44:07 PM #66: |
Bc guilty until proven innocent is old way of thinking
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Alexanaxela 09/17/18 3:47:23 PM #68: |
known2FAIL posted...
It's a movement to raise awareness about sexual assault and harassment right? What's wrong with that? *accuses you of random shit from a decade ago with no evidence* *you lose your job and society hates you now* --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 09/17/18 3:48:26 PM #69: |
gunplagirl posted...
nemu posted...gunplagirl posted...Vertania posted...gunplagirl posted...This. Everyone else? Maybe they lost a job but what happened next? A few months (months, not even a year) passed and they we're usually reinstated to their old job. At worse they were a comedian, disappeared for a year and then came back with a routine with jokes about rape. No, the women felt like they couldn't turn it down. They still said yes. I refuse to side with any person who felt like they could not say no when there was no use of coercion or force. Getting it into their own head that saying no would be bad is nothing but scaring themselves. It's not even like with Weinstein where people know that saying no could lead to something bad. There's nothing like that with CK. He's a minor comedian with no power. The only thing he admitted to was that "maybe he didn't think about his position of power" or some nonsense like that used to placate people. You are free to never find a single rape joke in the world funny. Just as long as you don't claim that they are never funny. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 09/17/18 3:49:02 PM #70: |
fenderbender321 posted...
There's something that just isn't right about seeking justice by yanking your phone out of your pocket and punching in a few words on twitter. If justice is only worth seeking when it can be done lazily and on your own terms, then the public is right to be skeptical. I mean you can't call it justice really, since it doesn't go to court. Someone getting fired over an accusation is hardly justice. I'd say that much shouldn't be legal, but then what do you do if you're a doctor or small business owner? It's tricky. I see gunplagirl showed up to gum up the topic --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 09/17/18 3:52:45 PM #72: |
P4wn4g3 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...There's something that just isn't right about seeking justice by yanking your phone out of your pocket and punching in a few words on twitter. If justice is only worth seeking when it can be done lazily and on your own terms, then the public is right to be skeptical. My favorite alola Pokemon IS A gumshoo, detective characters are my favorites --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 09/17/18 3:53:11 PM #73: |
fenderbender321 posted...
I hear rape jokes at our local comedy club all the time. Then, I go to work and tell them all to the female co-workers. They laugh and laugh and laugh. That's not very cash money of you --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreatEvilEmpire 09/17/18 3:54:16 PM #75: |
fenderbender321 posted...
I hear rape jokes at our local comedy club all the time. Then, I go to work and tell them all to the female co-workers. They laugh and laugh and laugh. There's going to come a day where comedians can't joke about anything related to men, women, sex or race anymore. It'll just be about cookies and the weather. --- Sig under construction! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dusk_ 09/17/18 3:54:33 PM #76: |
My problem is mostly with the celebrities who clam they were raped by a person they choose to go the persons house, had constitutional sex with and benefited by getting big roles in movies to which they made hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's a slap in the face to real " victims".
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Rika_Furude 09/17/18 4:23:04 PM #79: |
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
fenderbender321 posted...I hear rape jokes at our local comedy club all the time. Then, I go to work and tell them all to the female co-workers. They laugh and laugh and laugh. Cant make jokes about the weather because it is a negative stereotype of developing countries heavily affected by climate change, floods etc --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CEs_EFG 09/17/18 4:37:40 PM #80: |
known2FAIL posted...
No it's not. Stop trolling Thats a legit critique, how many people have come out saying a celebrity raped them? Then a dozen more popped out of the woodwork --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RainblowDash 09/17/18 4:39:06 PM #81: |
Well the victims never came forward until after theyve made their millions.
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CyricZ 09/17/18 4:39:37 PM #82: |
There are two types of people who hate #metoo.
1) The guilty. 2) Incels looking for more reasons to hate women. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vertania 09/17/18 4:44:54 PM #83: |
ThanksUglyGod posted...
I dunno who Steve Wynn is. https://www.npr.org/2018/03/15/592318034/after-sexual-misconduct-claims-vegas-mogul-steve-wynn-fell-fast He's currently bringing a defamation lawsuit against the accusers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 09/17/18 4:51:43 PM #84: |
Vertania posted...
Zikten posted...What about all the non famous normal college students who get kicked out of school without a trial cause the schools are so scared they just auto believe every single accusation There were several topics on this board about the first incident. Literally no one defended that lying heifer wench. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 09/17/18 4:52:44 PM #85: |
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Vertania posted...Zikten posted... The universities and sjws did. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XboxLegendary 09/17/18 4:52:52 PM #86: |
CyricZ posted...
There are two types of people who hate #metoo. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 09/17/18 4:54:22 PM #87: |
There's a double standard. Accused men are immediately assumed to be guilty, accused women are given the benefit of the doubt and much less harsh treatment.
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ImTheMacheteGuy 09/17/18 5:10:50 PM #88: |
gunplagirl posted...
nemu posted...gunplagirl posted...Vertania posted...gunplagirl posted...This. Everyone else? Maybe they lost a job but what happened next? A few months (months, not even a year) passed and they we're usually reinstated to their old job. At worse they were a comedian, disappeared for a year and then came back with a routine with jokes about rape. I mean, I saw Daniel Tosh live years ago. He ended with a rape joke about his sister. If everyone who laughed did as you suggested, and everyone else who ever laughed at a rape joke, we'd run out of caves... --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 09/17/18 5:17:33 PM #89: |
It slanders people who then must prove a negative to clear themselves.
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ImTheMacheteGuy 09/17/18 5:27:20 PM #90: |
Rika_Furude posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...Vertania posted...Zikten posted... Oh yeah? What did they say? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bige85 09/17/18 5:36:38 PM #91: |
Spooking posted...
Because it can destroy somebody's life based on an accusation. Flockaveli posted... Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law gets thrown out the window. --- I will not be forgiven by good or evil.-Donovan Baine, Vampire Savior/Darkstalkers 3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 09/17/18 5:38:04 PM #92: |
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
gunplagirl posted...nemu posted...gunplagirl posted...Vertania posted...gunplagirl posted...This. Everyone else? Maybe they lost a job but what happened next? A few months (months, not even a year) passed and they we're usually reinstated to their old job. At worse they were a comedian, disappeared for a year and then came back with a routine with jokes about rape. So what you're saying is, there's an unacceptably large number of people in society who condone rape. Thanks for saying what we already knew, but since it's coming from a man maybe something will happen. --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulGrave 09/17/18 5:44:29 PM #93: |
known2FAIL posted...
No it's not. Stop trolling Its basically what happened Aziz Ansari and Chris Hardwick. --- You enjoy teaching high schoolers, and I'll enjoy creating my crappy manga. Let's see where we both are in a year. TheDoorMouse Update https://imgur.com/vz0c9xf ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vertania 09/17/18 5:45:28 PM #94: |
Rika_Furude posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...Literally no one defended that lying heifer wench. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 09/17/18 5:47:00 PM #95: |
Spooking posted...
Because it can destroy somebody's life based on an accusation. who's life has been destroyed --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vertania 09/17/18 5:50:28 PM #97: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
who's life has been destroyed Vertania posted... http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/24/new-york-woman-20-who-lied-about-rapes-appears-to-roll-her-eyes-in-court-as-shes-jailed-for-year.html Vertania posted... https://www.npr.org/2018/03/15/592318034/after-sexual-misconduct-claims-vegas-mogul-steve-wynn-fell-fast ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 09/17/18 5:57:43 PM #98: |
gunplagirl posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...gunplagirl posted...nemu posted...gunplagirl posted...Vertania posted...gunplagirl posted...This. Everyone else? Maybe they lost a job but what happened next? A few months (months, not even a year) passed and they we're usually reinstated to their old job. At worse they were a comedian, disappeared for a year and then came back with a routine with jokes about rape. Imagine telling me what I'm saying when I'm the one saying it. I guess also imagine believing that laughing at a joke is condoning behavior spoken of in the joke. I also enjoy the movie Blazing Saddles. I guess you would also assume that in addition to "condoning rape," I must also "condone homophobia and racism." I can't remember if there are any jokes about Jewish people in that particular Mel Brooks film, so I'll leave "and anti-semitism." off the end of that... unless you remember a scene I don't. But yeah... back on point. Stating that laughing at a joke means condoning the subject of the joke is delusional and fringe-lunacy, so I hope you aren't being serious and literal here and I'm just not interpreting your point as you intended for it to be interpreted. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 09/17/18 5:58:59 PM #99: |
Vertania posted...
Rika_Furude posted...ImTheMacheteGuy posted...Literally no one defended that lying heifer wench. Okay, so you answer the question that I asked in response to Rika, as he did not answer it when I asked in response to that post. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulGrave 09/17/18 6:01:40 PM #100: |
gunplagirl posted...
So what you're saying is, there's an unacceptably large number of people in society who condone rape. Smh. --- You enjoy teaching high schoolers, and I'll enjoy creating my crappy manga. Let's see where we both are in a year. TheDoorMouse Update https://imgur.com/vz0c9xf ... Copied to Clipboard!
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