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FFVII_REMAKE
09/16/18 5:59:53 PM
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I go into a popular 5 star dealership to check out an old ass 90s toyota that I can use to commute to work.

- First guy that asks to help me tells me that they sold the car already. I ask to double check because I literally just called half an hour ago about it. He insists that it's been sold and that we can walk around the lot if I want. I comply. After about a few minutes, the fucking car is in the last lot and I ask him if that's the one. He says "uhhhh... ahhh.... ughhh... I think so" and then tells me it's in the sold lot.

- second salesman comes out to hear the convo. He asks his buddy if the car is sold... he says no because it's not even on the sold lot but it's on hold for another customer that has already out an initial deposit.

"Hey fuck it, I know you want this car TODAY... wait here, I'll get the keys" he says. Literally trying to sell a car that's on hold for another customer that's initially put money into it already.

So whatever, let's test it. Car ran pretty good after a 5 minute drive but I told him I'll think about it because I wanted to check out a few other vehicles today from other dealers.

"Ahhhh don't worry about that bullshit. This car already cheap as shit. Youre using it only for commuting right? What's $3000 to you? Come inside."

So I walk inside to his office and the dude already has the paperwork ready to go. I reminded him that a customer before me has initially put a deposit into this car as a hold.

"We've been trying to call the guy for the past 5 days, he's gone."

Then I told him I wanted to check out the other cars from other dealers today before they close first. He says that he's got someone else coming in right after me to actually purchase the car with cash on hand and that this is a missed opportunity. I was getting pissed off at this point. A few seconds later...

"Ok I won't push you anymore. What's your name and number?"

Dude just scribbled in my name and wrote in 8 digits instead of the normal 10.

As I was walking back to my vehicle, another salesman approached me and asked if i've been helped. I looked at him and with a surprise face, asked if he remember if he sold me a 2010 gray toyota corolla a few years ago. He says he does remember and wants to know what happened to the car. Told him it got into a wreck and that I'm here today to get another old vehicle and drove off. Funny thing is that I never bought a corolla here before.

Fucking snakes.
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lifeamovie
09/16/18 6:10:36 PM
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You were kinda bsing them

You wanted to buy the car but then you wanted to look around elsewhere?
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ManBeast462
09/16/18 6:11:19 PM
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Buying used vehicles lmao
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Leanaunfurled
09/16/18 6:13:16 PM
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DoomtheGrav
09/16/18 6:14:23 PM
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Lol you sound like a total jack

I would have blown you out too
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pogo_rabid
09/16/18 6:14:32 PM
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Car salesmen are very sensitive to people who want to jerk them around. Every minute they waste time with someone who's doing so is time not spent making a potential sale.
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coinstarcad
09/16/18 6:22:34 PM
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I know someone from Sweden who went to buy a used car here. I wasn't there to see it. Anyway he got, for 3,000 bucks out of his savings, a barely running wreck of a vehicle that had a rag for a gas cap. The guy just let himself get talked into a disaster, and he was studying to become a marine biologist.
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Burgess
09/16/18 6:24:58 PM
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I don't see what they did wrong but I see that you were just intent on jerking them around.
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Smashingpmkns
09/16/18 6:29:50 PM
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Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.
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frogman_295
09/16/18 6:30:39 PM
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Tldr but YEAH they are...
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nicklebro
09/16/18 6:31:23 PM
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I sold cars for 2 years and on top of you clearly sugar coating that story to make you look normal and them look bad, you admitted to jerking them around which is fucked up because car salesmen usually get paid strictly in commission, no hourly. Plus you have no idea what the deal was with that car that apparently was spoken for before. You we're making up assumptions and not thinking about it logically
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I4NRulez
09/16/18 6:40:44 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.


Not to me, just go in straight forward knowing what you want and whats a scam and usually they will work with you to get a sale.

If you go in not knowing shit of course they are gonna up sell you some dumb shit you dont need. Every place that gets commission will do that. When i worked in cable repair you know how many 90 year olds got up sold 2000 dollar smart tvs by electronic stores when they dont even know what apps are? all of them. Sales is a hard game
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BrownBearKing
09/16/18 6:46:13 PM
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Idk what TC did wrong.
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Smashingpmkns
09/16/18 6:46:29 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.


Not to me, just go in straight forward knowing what you want and whats a scam and usually they will work with you to get a sale.

If you go in not knowing shit of course they are gonna up sell you some dumb shit you dont need. Every place that gets commission will do that. When i worked in cable repair you know how many 90 year olds got up sold 2000 dollar smart tvs by electronic stores when they dont even know what apps are? all of them. Sales is a hard game


If you don't think taking advantage of the old and ignorant or the young and naive just to make a quick buck is messed up then I dunno what to say here. It's the reality of the situation sure, but fuck them. I manage a sales team that get pissed off all day for being jerked around but they are literally ripping people off.

The reality for the consumer is that you'll be in a multi year contract for a car, wasting a hour or two of some dick bag's time is just collateral.
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nicklebro
09/16/18 6:46:34 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.

Car salesmen are people. If you're the one that sounds like a douchebag if you're saying you should be jerking strangers around for no good reason.
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PokemonExpert44
09/16/18 6:47:49 PM
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Used cars = bad thing to do
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Smashingpmkns
09/16/18 6:49:13 PM
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nicklebro posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.

Car salesmen are people. If you're the one that sounds like a douchebag if you're saying you should be jerking strangers around for no good reason.


No such thing as an honest car salesman.
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s0nicfan
09/16/18 6:50:32 PM
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Car salesmen don't serve a purpose anymore. Replace them with kiosks.
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RoboLaserGandhi
09/16/18 6:50:32 PM
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I know man I was raking my garden yesterday and I caught a car salesman crawling out behind my strawberries.
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I4NRulez
09/16/18 6:52:23 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
I4NRulez posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.


Not to me, just go in straight forward knowing what you want and whats a scam and usually they will work with you to get a sale.

If you go in not knowing shit of course they are gonna up sell you some dumb shit you dont need. Every place that gets commission will do that. When i worked in cable repair you know how many 90 year olds got up sold 2000 dollar smart tvs by electronic stores when they dont even know what apps are? all of them. Sales is a hard game


If you don't think taking advantage of the old and ignorant or the young and naive just to make a quick buck is messed up then I dunno what to say here. It's the reality of the situation sure, but fuck them. I manage a sales team that get pissed off all day for being jerked around but they are literally ripping people off.

The reality for the consumer is that you'll be in a multi year contract for a car, wasting a hour or two of some dick bag's time is just collateral.


It's the consumers responsibility to be informed.
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nicklebro
09/16/18 6:53:58 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
nicklebro posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.

Car salesmen are people. If you're the one that sounds like a douchebag if you're saying you should be jerking strangers around for no good reason.


No such thing as an honest car salesman.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You're not long outta highschool are you? This is the kinda trope that only ignorant little kids repeat.

s0nicfan posted...
Car salesmen don't serve a purpose anymore. Replace them with kiosks.

If you wanna pay the sticker price then sure lmao.
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Smashingpmkns
09/16/18 6:54:29 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
I4NRulez posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.


Not to me, just go in straight forward knowing what you want and whats a scam and usually they will work with you to get a sale.

If you go in not knowing shit of course they are gonna up sell you some dumb shit you dont need. Every place that gets commission will do that. When i worked in cable repair you know how many 90 year olds got up sold 2000 dollar smart tvs by electronic stores when they dont even know what apps are? all of them. Sales is a hard game


If you don't think taking advantage of the old and ignorant or the young and naive just to make a quick buck is messed up then I dunno what to say here. It's the reality of the situation sure, but fuck them. I manage a sales team that get pissed off all day for being jerked around but they are literally ripping people off.

The reality for the consumer is that you'll be in a multi year contract for a car, wasting a hour or two of some dick bag's time is just collateral.


It's the consumers responsibility to be informed.


And if they're not it's completely okay to fuck them, right? Wasting someone's day is way less egregious than fucking someone for years.
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monkmith
09/16/18 6:54:39 PM
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blame the system not the salesmen, they make shit wages and only survive on commissions.
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ImCallingYouOut
09/16/18 6:54:59 PM
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hey nickelbro when are you closing your account? remember since you bet your account trump would lose the election?
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Smashingpmkns
09/16/18 6:56:01 PM
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nicklebro posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
nicklebro posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.

Car salesmen are people. If you're the one that sounds like a douchebag if you're saying you should be jerking strangers around for no good reason.


No such thing as an honest car salesman.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You're not long outta highschool are you? This is the kinda trope that only ignorant little kids repeat.

s0nicfan posted...
Car salesmen don't serve a purpose anymore. Replace them with kiosks.

If you wanna pay the sticker price then sure lmao.


Well out of high school but you don't really have an argument here other than pointing out my age? Again, I manage high commission sales people. I know the game. Shit is fucked up but a salesman in general isn't looking out for the patron even 25% of the time.
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I4NRulez
09/16/18 6:58:27 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
I4NRulez posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
I4NRulez posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.


Not to me, just go in straight forward knowing what you want and whats a scam and usually they will work with you to get a sale.

If you go in not knowing shit of course they are gonna up sell you some dumb shit you dont need. Every place that gets commission will do that. When i worked in cable repair you know how many 90 year olds got up sold 2000 dollar smart tvs by electronic stores when they dont even know what apps are? all of them. Sales is a hard game


If you don't think taking advantage of the old and ignorant or the young and naive just to make a quick buck is messed up then I dunno what to say here. It's the reality of the situation sure, but fuck them. I manage a sales team that get pissed off all day for being jerked around but they are literally ripping people off.

The reality for the consumer is that you'll be in a multi year contract for a car, wasting a hour or two of some dick bag's time is just collateral.


It's the consumers responsibility to be informed.


And if they're not it's completely okay to fuck them, right? Wasting someone's day is way less egregious than fucking someone for years.


If you're going to buy a car which is an investment for years why would you go in ignorant and hasty? The salesmen's job is to sell cars not to educate morons
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Vamp_Aubrey
09/16/18 6:59:24 PM
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i work for a company that owns car dealerships and i can confirm that most of the salespeople are shitters
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muchdran
09/16/18 7:01:05 PM
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ImCallingYouOut posted...
hey nickelbro when are you closing your account? remember since you bet your account trump would lose the election?

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Smashingpmkns
09/16/18 7:01:18 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
I4NRulez posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
I4NRulez posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.


Not to me, just go in straight forward knowing what you want and whats a scam and usually they will work with you to get a sale.

If you go in not knowing shit of course they are gonna up sell you some dumb shit you dont need. Every place that gets commission will do that. When i worked in cable repair you know how many 90 year olds got up sold 2000 dollar smart tvs by electronic stores when they dont even know what apps are? all of them. Sales is a hard game


If you don't think taking advantage of the old and ignorant or the young and naive just to make a quick buck is messed up then I dunno what to say here. It's the reality of the situation sure, but fuck them. I manage a sales team that get pissed off all day for being jerked around but they are literally ripping people off.

The reality for the consumer is that you'll be in a multi year contract for a car, wasting a hour or two of some dick bag's time is just collateral.


It's the consumers responsibility to be informed.


And if they're not it's completely okay to fuck them, right? Wasting someone's day is way less egregious than fucking someone for years.


If you're going to buy a car which is an investment for years why would you go in ignorant and hasty? The salesmen's job is to sell cars not to educate morons


Taking all blame off of the party wronging the consumer is totally logical.

If the salesman can say "they don't know shit so fuck them I'm gonna rip them off" then its equally as okay for the consumer to say "this dude is going to try and rip me off so fuck him."
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PokemonExpert44
09/16/18 7:01:51 PM
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Vamp_Aubrey posted...
i work for a company that owns car dealerships and i can confirm that most of the salespeople are shitters


car salesman = fat bullies
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ImCallingYouOut
09/16/18 7:02:17 PM
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muchdran posted...
ImCallingYouOut posted...
hey nickelbro when are you closing your account? remember since you bet your account trump would lose the election?

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nickelbro bet his account back in 2016 that trump would lose the election. yet here we are in 2018 and his account is still very much open
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nicklebro
09/16/18 7:07:16 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...


Well out of high school but you don't really have an argument here other than pointing out my age? Again, I manage high commission sales people. I know the game. Shit is fucked up but a salesman in general isn't looking out for the patron even 25% of the time.

Actually my argument is you being completely ignorant of what car salesman do cuz you've never done it and have no clue what you're talking about. Not all sales are alike, hence you not knowing what I know. Maybe you assumed it was all the same, well I'm here to tell you you're dead wrong. You can stubbornly reject that or be an adult (which I doubt, hence me questioning your age) and acknowledge someome who knows something you do not is trying to enlighten you to something you're blatantly ignorant of.
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nicklebro
09/16/18 7:08:26 PM
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ImCallingYouOut posted...
hey nickelbro when are you closing your account? remember since you bet your account trump would lose the election?

I did? Who did I bet? Can you link their name? Can you link the topic? I really don't know what you're referring to...
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Smashingpmkns
09/16/18 7:10:56 PM
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nicklebro posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...


Well out of high school but you don't really have an argument here other than pointing out my age? Again, I manage high commission sales people. I know the game. Shit is fucked up but a salesman in general isn't looking out for the patron even 25% of the time.

Actually my argument is you being completely ignorant of what car salesman do cuz you've never done it and have no clue what you're talking about. Not all sales are alike, hence you not knowing what I know. Maybe you assumed it was all the same, well I'm here to tell you you're dead wrong. You can stubbornly reject that or be an adult (which I doubt, hence me questioning your age) and acknowledge someome who knows something you do not is trying to enlighten you to something you're blatantly ignorant of.


Lol okay bud. All car salesmen are saints and theres no questioning it. That's why every person that goes to a dealership doesn't get ripped off and always gets the lowest price possible.

It's not like car salesmen have some secret code of ethics. But lasting only 2 years as a car salesmen, you might have literally been the only honest car salesmen if you were doing it for such a short time lol
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Burgess
09/16/18 7:11:40 PM
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Why do people hate car salesmen so much.
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vbty3
09/16/18 7:13:27 PM
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Burgess posted...
Why do people hate car salesmen so much.

Why do you never use question marks? It has always bugged me.
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nicklebro
09/16/18 7:36:05 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
nicklebro posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...


Well out of high school but you don't really have an argument here other than pointing out my age? Again, I manage high commission sales people. I know the game. Shit is fucked up but a salesman in general isn't looking out for the patron even 25% of the time.

Actually my argument is you being completely ignorant of what car salesman do cuz you've never done it and have no clue what you're talking about. Not all sales are alike, hence you not knowing what I know. Maybe you assumed it was all the same, well I'm here to tell you you're dead wrong. You can stubbornly reject that or be an adult (which I doubt, hence me questioning your age) and acknowledge someome who knows something you do not is trying to enlighten you to something you're blatantly ignorant of.


Lol okay bud. All car salesmen are saints and theres no questioning it. That's why every person that goes to a dealership doesn't get ripped off and always gets the lowest price possible.

It's not like car salesmen have some secret code of ethics. But lasting only 2 years as a car salesmen, you might have literally been the only honest car salesmen if you were doing it for such a short time lol

Hey look at you making baseless assumptions and being dead wrong yet again. I actually took a better job, I didnt get fired. And i wouldn't have been able to get this job without my experience as a car salesman.

And for all you know car salesmen might all be saints, you have no idea and I'm baffled as to why you keep talking about something you don't know shit about.

Lol but I guess looking stupid after making baseless assumptions is kinda your thing, so have fun with that. And you're welcome.
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Alucard188
09/16/18 7:39:49 PM
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lifeamovie posted...
You wanted to buy the car but then you wanted to look around elsewhere?


So? Dude has the right to look around and get the best possible deal for himself. That salesman in the OP is scuzzy as fuck, though.
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Smashingpmkns
09/16/18 7:41:11 PM
#39:


nicklebro posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
nicklebro posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...


Well out of high school but you don't really have an argument here other than pointing out my age? Again, I manage high commission sales people. I know the game. Shit is fucked up but a salesman in general isn't looking out for the patron even 25% of the time.

Actually my argument is you being completely ignorant of what car salesman do cuz you've never done it and have no clue what you're talking about. Not all sales are alike, hence you not knowing what I know. Maybe you assumed it was all the same, well I'm here to tell you you're dead wrong. You can stubbornly reject that or be an adult (which I doubt, hence me questioning your age) and acknowledge someome who knows something you do not is trying to enlighten you to something you're blatantly ignorant of.


Lol okay bud. All car salesmen are saints and theres no questioning it. That's why every person that goes to a dealership doesn't get ripped off and always gets the lowest price possible.

It's not like car salesmen have some secret code of ethics. But lasting only 2 years as a car salesmen, you might have literally been the only honest car salesmen if you were doing it for such a short time lol

Hey look at you making baseless assumptions and being dead wrong yet again. I actually took a better job, insisnt get fired. And in wouldn't have been able to get this job without my experience as a car salesman. And for all you know car salesmen might all be saints, you have no idea and I'm baffled as to why you keep talking about something you don't know shit about.

Lol but I guess looking stupid after making baseless assumptions is kinda your thing, so have fun with that. And you're welcome.


You're really mad. Hopefully you weren't so hostile on the salesfloor. In the dozen sales you had in your short tenure you're saying you didnt rip off a single one? For some reason I find that hard to believe. But then again, the car salesmen society is so secretive that theres no way regular folk such as myself could know their ethical playbook lol
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lifeamovie
09/16/18 7:52:35 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
You wanted to buy the car but then you wanted to look around elsewhere?


So? Dude has the right to look around and get the best possible deal for himself. That salesman in the OP is scuzzy as fuck, though.

But he makes it sound like he was ready to buy and then flipped flopped
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treewojima
09/16/18 7:57:47 PM
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the best salespeople at the dealership I work at are the ones who apply very little pressure and are honest about a car's features versus the customer's needs. they consistently have the most repeat customers and referrals. the guys who are pushy and like to break out the four square usually don't last long

unfortunately, the real pressure comes from finance. those guys are fucking snakes and will promise you the world as long as you buy an extended warranty. (and us peons in service are left explaining to the customer that something isn't covered)
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Alucard188
09/16/18 7:59:11 PM
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lifeamovie posted...
Alucard188 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
You wanted to buy the car but then you wanted to look around elsewhere?


So? Dude has the right to look around and get the best possible deal for himself. That salesman in the OP is scuzzy as fuck, though.

But he makes it sound like he was ready to buy and then flipped flopped


Maybe if the salesperson didn't try to snowjob him in the first place, he'd be more willing to spend money there. Bold-face lying to someone you're trying to sell something to isn't a good way to get a sale.
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nicklebro
09/16/18 9:29:26 PM
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I accept your apology.
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Bloodychess
09/16/18 9:30:58 PM
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FFVII_REMAKE posted...
5 star dealership

Those do not legit exist
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Fossil
09/16/18 9:35:59 PM
#45:


Smashingpmkns posted...
nicklebro posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Car salesmen are douches 9 times out of 10. Don't walk in there giving them any leeway. "Jerking them around" is what you should be doing.

Car salesmen are people. If you're the one that sounds like a douchebag if you're saying you should be jerking strangers around for no good reason.


No such thing as an honest car salesman.

There is, but they usually get fired in the first few months for trying to do the right thing.
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prince_leo
09/16/18 9:46:57 PM
#46:


treewojima posted...
unfortunately, the real pressure comes from finance. those guys are fucking snakes and will promise you the world as long as you buy an extended warranty. (and us peons in service are left explaining to the customer that something isn't covered)

I recently bought two new cars this summer and this was exactly my experience
my salesman was great, he was honest and respectful. when asked about a feature that was new he even straight up told me he'd have to double check because he didn't want to give me misinformation
guy was great and I felt bad that we took a week to come back and buy the cars (although 2 cars in one go is probably a great fucking win for him)

meanwhile the finance guy talked down to me and told me that the cars will need all the extra warranties/features and that he can only give me the deal now and never again. oh well, fuck it
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charey
09/16/18 9:52:32 PM
#47:


TC was right to walk out, they tried several ways to scam him so the salesmen deserved nothing.
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R0N1N187
09/16/18 9:55:10 PM
#48:


Lets be honest. Everyone used to be a salesman at one point (retail, cars, games, etc). Point being is, you're trained to LIE to make the COMPANY a shit load of MONEY.

Hate to break it to you, but thats just how capitalism works.
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smoke_break
09/16/18 9:57:25 PM
#49:


lifeamovie posted...
Alucard188 posted...
lifeamovie posted...
You wanted to buy the car but then you wanted to look around elsewhere?


So? Dude has the right to look around and get the best possible deal for himself. That salesman in the OP is scuzzy as fuck, though.

But he makes it sound like he was ready to buy and then flipped flopped

What's wrong with that? People are allowed to change their minds or be hesitant, especially when a lot of money is involved.
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nicklebro
09/16/18 10:52:54 PM
#50:


R0N1N187 posted...
Lets be honest. Everyone used to be a salesman at one point (retail, cars, games, etc). Point being is, you're trained to LIE to make the COMPANY a shit load of MONEY.

Hate to break it to you, but thats just how capitalism works.

I guess that makes sense if you work for a garbage company selling bullshit. When you actually like your product, it sells its self, you just gotta be knowledgeable.
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