Current Events > RE: Ciri being cast to be Black Asian Minority Ethnic in Witcher TV series

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refmon
09/13/18 1:21:30 PM
#102:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Shouldn't we wait to see who actually gets cast in the roles before clutching our pearls and losing our minds over pure speculation?

Idk, it seems like a lot of people just are looking for a reason to be outraged about this whole thing from the start


Isn't she already confirmed not to be white?
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iPhone_7
09/13/18 1:29:42 PM
#103:


DuranOfForcena posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
Her lineage is important on the basis of royalty, not because of her skin color. Try again.

changing her skin color and having it be consistent in universe would necessitate changing the skin color of either the entire Nilfgaardian empire or the entirety of Elvenkind, or both. it is based around racial identity, Slavic racial identity, which is fucking exactly what the OP is about. did you even fucking read the OP?

The series is based around Slavic folklore, not the color of their skin. Try again.
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Axiom
09/13/18 1:29:44 PM
#104:


DuranOfForcena posted...
Axiom posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
iPhone_7 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
CyricZ posted...
I have the wiki article of the history of Poland open here. Could someone quick point me to the section of its history where the Witcher actually happened?

i have the wiki article of the history of Africa open here. could someone quick point me to the section of its history where Black Panther actually happened?

no? it didn't actually happen historically? well i guess that means it's okay to cast a white guy as T'Challa then.

There are plenty of comic issues where his skin color and racism are a focus. Hell in one series he gets crucified by the Klan. So you dont have a point.

Ciri's lineage and therefore skin color is important in the Witcher universe

shut the fuck up with your fucking idiotic, pathetic, hypocritical, whiny, perpetual victim bullshit

Her character's race can easily be changed and have the same lineage. It isn't based around a racial identity and tbh you sound more like the whiny perpetual victim with these posts

changing her skin color and having it be consistent in universe would necessitate changing the skin color of either the entire Nilfgaardian empire or the entirety of Elvenkind, or both. it is based around racial identity, Slavic racial identity, which is fucking exactly what the OP is about. did you even fucking read the OP?

Yeah I did and it's obvious whoever created the pic was simply upset about the skin color and had nothing to do with Slavic culture otherwise they'd have a problem with a British guy playing Geralt. They sound as needlessly irate as you do about a TV adaptation that is trying to appeal to an American audience by changing a character's race a character whose lineage can easily stay in tact by changing details any number of ways

Crying about this would be like crying about the netflix series Death Note for using white actors to appeal to American audiences
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DarkBuster22904
09/13/18 1:34:13 PM
#105:


Tbh it would've made more sense for Geralt to have been made black, given the general treatment of rivians in quite a few of the stories
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Axiom
09/13/18 1:47:09 PM
#108:


DuranOfForcena posted...
i don't keep up with news about weeb shit, but wasn't there just recently a fucking huge controversy about ScarJo being cast in some live action anime?

Yes and those people were just as ridiculous as you and others are in this topic. You're complaining about SJWs when you people are acting exactly like them. Hell this entire topic amounts to you guys complaining about "cultural appropriation"
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spanky1
09/13/18 1:51:25 PM
#110:


I don't even understand how we got to the point of propping up reasons for why Ciri needs to be white, such as her racial identity being important to the character, or it being a Polish creation or whatever. You guys can argue back and forth over stuff like that all day long and it shouldn't matter.

All that should matter is that the live action adaptation of a character looks like the original character. That's the entire point of doing an adaptation. Why would you want a character that doesn't look like the character? Why would you defend that? What if you made a Superman movie and gave him a green costume? It'd just be dumb and stupid. You'd be like, huh? Why does Superman have a green costume? Why would they make that change? What's the point? It doesn't look like Superman. "Yeeaah, but is the blue costume REEEAAALLY important to his character? Does his identity HAAAVE to be tied to the blue costume? What's wrong with greeeen costumes? *touches nipples*" No. But it's dumb to make him not look like Superman. That's all there is to it.

It's an extremely superficial discussion in my eyes, always has been. There is no depth to it. There is no debating. Characters should look like the character. End of story.

Ciri ain't black. She's white.
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Trigger_Volnutt
09/13/18 1:53:22 PM
#111:


I mean, the Witcher is barely accurate to its written source already so the rightsholders clearly believe representation can be flexible.

Please support me, the other 5 people who read the books. I know you're here. _
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AvantgardeAClue
09/13/18 1:54:28 PM
#112:


Tbh this bothers me more than I thought

Netflix will get hit with controversy from both sides and they'll prefer the rage from the group in opposition because they're easier to label as unreasonable and difficult, cause "Hurr why not"

How about more original content is made with this minority casting and see how well it does without an established brand behind it
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gmanthebest
09/13/18 1:58:28 PM
#113:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
How about more original content is made with this minority casting and see how well it does without an established brand behind it

But that takes too much work!!!!

Why do that when you can just take an established series and colour swap characters?
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AvantgardeAClue
09/13/18 2:03:06 PM
#114:


gmanthebest posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
How about more original content is made with this minority casting and see how well it does without an established brand behind it

But that takes too much work!!!!

Why do that when you can just take an established series and colour swap characters?


I wish I could be a Hollywood writer so I can bullshit on Twitter while modifying existing IPS to my liking
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spanky1
09/13/18 2:04:30 PM
#115:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
gmanthebest posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
How about more original content is made with this minority casting and see how well it does without an established brand behind it

But that takes too much work!!!!

Why do that when you can just take an established series and colour swap characters?


I wish I could be a Hollywood writer so I can bullshit on Twitter while modifying existing IPS to my liking

It's extra insulting this case, but it's Netflix we're talking about. Netflix pumps out original content left and right. Why not create a ton of brand new original black content? They 100% have the means and the medium.
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closetkpopfan
09/13/18 2:05:47 PM
#116:


I don't understand why race is so important. If they have acting talent I don't give 2 ****s what color their skin is. Forced inclusion is insulting and I also don't understand why things like this get praised by minorities and sjw white people. Its pandering plain and simple, why are people so easily fooled?

You can open casting to all races, there is no need to exclude a race just to pander to a specific crowd. Pick the person who nails the audition, and stop basing choices off of pandering nonsense.
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Trigger_Volnutt
09/13/18 2:06:04 PM
#117:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
gmanthebest posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
How about more original content is made with this minority casting and see how well it does without an established brand behind it

But that takes too much work!!!!

Why do that when you can just take an established series and colour swap characters?


I wish I could be a Hollywood writer so I can bullshit on Twitter while modifying existing IPS to my liking

The game adaption already did that though. Like, significantly so. Hardly anyone cares about that. If anything, it shows the authors let everyone do whatever they want. I haven't read the comic but that's apparently wildly separate from the games, too.
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X-Pac_Heat
09/13/18 2:06:34 PM
#118:


gmanthebest posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
How about more original content is made with this minority casting and see how well it does without an established brand behind it

But that takes too much work!!!!

Why do that when you can just take an established series and colour swap characters?


This is why I find bozo's who laugh that "All Poland has is a game!? How shitty are they!" so fucking abbhorent.

Imagine if I used this logic to the people who have to literally change their thing in order to get representation? How shitty is black and asian culture if they can't get projects suited to them off the ground?

But you know, you say that it's racist. It's plenty fine to talk shit about Eastern European countries though.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/13/18 2:06:49 PM
#119:


spanky1 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
gmanthebest posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
How about more original content is made with this minority casting and see how well it does without an established brand behind it

But that takes too much work!!!!

Why do that when you can just take an established series and colour swap characters?


I wish I could be a Hollywood writer so I can bullshit on Twitter while modifying existing IPS to my liking

It's extra insulting this case, but it's Netflix we're talking about. Netflix pumps out original content left and right. Why not create a ton of brand new original black content? They 100% have the means and the medium.


They probably think this is such a safe choice since The Witcher has a massive following.

Well, it ain't that massive.

"Hurr but the creator approved it"

The dude hasn't even gotten paid properly for the games. Saying he disagrees would be suicide.
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Youngster_Joey_
09/13/18 2:08:34 PM
#120:


Honestly, the second Netflix was announced to be making it everyone should have expected disappointment and shitty changes to be made. Character race bending is probably gonna be the least of this series problems.

We're talking about the people who did their damnedest to make every super hero property they have as un-heroic and boring as possible, after all.
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EbonTitanium
09/13/18 2:09:01 PM
#121:


What are the author's thoughts on this?
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southcoast09
09/13/18 2:09:54 PM
#122:


Couldnt they just... cast her to look the way shes supposed to?

This is just another take that white people !!!!1!!!11!!! moment. I wouldnt have watched it either way, though.
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Trigger_Volnutt
09/13/18 2:10:12 PM
#123:


EbonTitanium posted...
What are the author's thoughts on this?

Hasn't said shit, as far as I'm aware. But also made no significant commentary about the reworking of the novels either. Which is why I'm led to believe there's a lack of shit-giving going on.
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Total_Lost2
09/13/18 2:10:46 PM
#124:


To be fair, the reason he hasn't gotten properly paid is because of the deal he made in the beginning, which was his own fault.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/13/18 2:11:34 PM
#125:


EbonTitanium posted...
What are the author's thoughts on this?


http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/09/12/the-witcher-saga-writer-andrzej-sapkowski-confirms-he-has-no-creative-involvement-in-netflix-series/

tl;dr He's not involved so he couldn't care less, but he does believe the books are the correct descriptor
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Trigger_Volnutt
09/13/18 2:12:17 PM
#126:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
EbonTitanium posted...
What are the author's thoughts on this?


http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/09/12/the-witcher-saga-writer-andrzej-sapkowski-confirms-he-has-no-creative-involvement-in-netflix-series/

tl;dr He's not involved so he couldn't care less, but he does believe the books are the correct descriptor

So the same thing he said about the games then. Thought so.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/13/18 2:14:54 PM
#127:


He's also not screenwriting any part of the show because he doesn't see himself as anything else than a novelist.

What a guy

Too bad most people are taking his indifference as approval; he's not allowed to talk about anything in the show or risk getting fined anyway.
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Youngster_Joey_
09/13/18 2:19:38 PM
#128:


zWZZZrS

Can someone please photoshop her dress and hair white for the lols. Thanks.
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Zikten
09/13/18 2:21:19 PM
#129:


closetkpopfan posted...
I don't understand why race is so important. If they have acting talent I don't give 2 ****s what color their skin is. Forced inclusion is insulting and I also don't understand why things like this get praised by minorities and sjw white people. Its pandering plain and simple, why are people so easily fooled?

You can open casting to all races, there is no need to exclude a race just to pander to a specific crowd. Pick the person who nails the audition, and stop basing choices off of pandering nonsense.

In thie case race is important cause the Witcher has been declared a important part of polish culture. I think the prime minister of Poland was handed a special copy of the novel. And it's supposed to be based on a fantasy version of medieval poland
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spanky1
09/13/18 2:31:52 PM
#130:


Youngster_Joey_ posted...
zWZZZrS

Can someone please photoshop her dress and hair white for the lols. Thanks.

This blows my fucking mind. I mean god damn. Just god damn it all. What the fuck man.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/13/18 3:16:25 PM
#132:


spanky1 posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
zWZZZrS

Can someone please photoshop her dress and hair white for the lols. Thanks.

This blows my fucking mind. I mean god damn. Just god damn it all. What the fuck man.


Is that pic from something lol
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Questionmarktarius
09/13/18 3:19:00 PM
#133:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
Is that pic from something lol

Have you been in a coma for the past several months?
https://screenrant.com/titans-tv-show-raven-starfire-beast-boy-images/
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AvantgardeAClue
09/13/18 3:22:29 PM
#134:


Questionmarktarius posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Is that pic from something lol

Have you been in a coma for the past several months?
https://screenrant.com/titans-tv-show-raven-starfire-beast-boy-images/


No but I HAVE been avoiding news on that thing
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Bok_Choi
09/13/18 3:29:59 PM
#135:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Bok_Choi posted...
Swagnificent119 posted...
Yes, because we're in such short supply of that these days *rolls fucking eyes*

"black women should just be thankful for whatever roles they can find since that's the status quo i'm comfortable with"

...but it's perfectly fine when Tyler Perry steals one?

nobody likes tyler perry
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ModLogic
09/13/18 3:31:07 PM
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KainFourteh
09/13/18 4:36:02 PM
#138:


Samurontai posted...
Nice

Anything to piss off neckbeards


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ColdOne666
09/13/18 4:44:54 PM
#139:


Skye Reynolds posted...
Polish Producers: "Our culture has a long history of suffering and oppression. We endured the Holocaust."

American Producers: "Yes, but your suffering would've been greater had you been Black. (Or Asian. Or Latino.)"


Lol pretty much this. Libs are hypocrites.
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Zikten
09/13/18 4:46:13 PM
#140:


Yea. Leftists tend tell any white person or culture that had hardship to "shut the fuck up and think about minorities, you racist"
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_Krave_
09/13/18 5:38:24 PM
#141:


They should have gone the Kingdom Come route.
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Ammonitida
09/13/18 5:49:50 PM
#142:


SJW wrote

I will not tolerate this act of cultural appropriation of Polish culture!
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BaphometFlux
09/13/18 6:07:53 PM
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everyone fighting in this topic is dumb... more important things to worry about than a Netflix show :P
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