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TonyKojima 09/12/18 11:59:16 PM #1:	I buy video games to escape reality, have fun, and roleplay. I buy and play video games to WIN not to lose, or be "challenged" whatever the fuck that means. I'm tired of people crying about easy modes and hand hold in games, in fact I don't think it goes far enough. I should NEVER have to spend days stuck on a puzzle, boss fight, task, etc etc. I play games to unwind not to get angry and pissed off. Easy mode ONLY for me and most others. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908641137] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>I buy video games to escape reality, have fun, and roleplay. I buy and play video games to WIN not to lose, or be "challenged" whatever the fuck that means. I'm tired of people crying about easy modes and hand hold in games, in fact I don't think it goes far enough. I should NEVER have to spend days stuck on a puzzle, boss fight, task, etc etc. I play games to unwind not to get angry and pissed off. Easy mode ONLY for me and most others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 09/13/18 12:00:05 AM #2:	git gud --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Gkh_9hyi8 <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:908641177] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>git gud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Samman123 09/13/18 12:01:04 AM #3:	Peope enjoy challenging stuff too --- Battle Tag (Diablo III): Thirst4BLOOD#1781 <cite>Samman123 posted [p:908641236] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>Peope enjoy challenging stuff too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:02:16 AM #4:	Samman123 posted... Peope enjoy challenging stuff too Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908641297] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samman123 posted...</cite> <quote>Peope enjoy challenging stuff too</quote> Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeowMix101 09/13/18 12:02:34 AM #5:	truthfully I am fine with games allowing handholding just not when it locks a trophy like in ds2 where you have to use people for x amount of bosses --- "If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future." Winston Churchill <cite>MeowMix101 posted [p:908641312] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>truthfully I am fine with games allowing handholding just not when it locks a trophy like in ds2 where you have to use people for x amount of bosses</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 09/13/18 12:02:51 AM #6:	TonyKojima posted... Samman123 posted... Peope enjoy challenging stuff too Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off. Then put it on baby mode and leave everyone else alone? Nothing wrong with the option of noob mode but don't castrate the entire game for everyone for it --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Gkh_9hyi8 <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:908641333] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samman123 posted...</cite> <quote>Peope enjoy challenging stuff too</quote> Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off.</quote> Then put it on baby mode and leave everyone else alone? Nothing wrong with the option of noob mode but don't castrate the entire game for everyone for it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/13/18 12:03:50 AM #7:	I don't mind if the game supports it, but at least give me an option to turn it off. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:908641390] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>I don't mind if the game supports it, but at least give me an option to turn it off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMarthKoopa 09/13/18 12:06:39 AM #8:	What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press <cite>TheMarthKoopa posted [p:908641540] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:06:59 AM #9:	Its also unfair certain items are not attainable unless you do difficult tasks. Again I buy games to have fun and roleplay and escape from reality. I don't want to have bait dangled in front of my face with unattainable goals. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908641553] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>Its also unfair certain items are not attainable unless you do difficult tasks. Again I buy games to have fun and roleplay and escape from reality. I don't want to have bait dangled in front of my face with unattainable goals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 09/13/18 12:07:50 AM #10:	TheMarthKoopa posted... What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press This You might as well be playing a movie instead of a game. --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:908641598] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMarthKoopa posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press</quote> This You might as well be playing a movie instead of a game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:07:53 AM #11:	TheMarthKoopa posted... What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed! --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908641601] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMarthKoopa posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press</quote> Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 09/13/18 12:08:06 AM #12:	TonyKojima posted... Its also unfair certain items are not attainable unless you do difficult tasks. Again I buy games to have fun and roleplay and escape from reality. I don't want to have bait dangled in front of my face with unattainable goals. --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Gkh_9hyi8 <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:908641614] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote>Its also unfair certain items are not attainable unless you do difficult tasks. Again I buy games to have fun and roleplay and escape from reality. I don't want to have bait dangled in front of my face with unattainable goals.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 09/13/18 12:08:13 AM #13:	It should have an easy mode but not as the only option. That is why I stopped playing Ni no Kuni after about 12 hours. They added a higher difficulty level months later but I doubt I'll go back, needed to have that for the release --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:908641621] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>It should have an easy mode but not as the only option. That is why I stopped playing Ni no Kuni after about 12 hours. They added a higher difficulty level months later but I doubt I'll go back, needed to have that for the release</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaithSayer 09/13/18 12:08:37 AM #14:	3rd_Best_Master posted... TheMarthKoopa posted... What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press This You might as well be playing a movie instead of a game. Lol FFX <cite>SaithSayer posted [p:908641646] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMarthKoopa posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press</quote> This You might as well be playing a movie instead of a game.</quote> Lol FFX</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:09:36 AM #15:	rikasa posted... It should have an easy mode but not as the only option. That is why I stopped playing Ni no Kuni after about 12 hours. They added a higher difficulty level months later but I doubt I'll go back, needed to have that for the release This is a ridiculous problem to have. The games story is the selling point, not some arbitrary "difficulty" setting. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908641694] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>rikasa posted...</cite> <quote>It should have an easy mode but not as the only option. That is why I stopped playing Ni no Kuni after about 12 hours. They added a higher difficulty level months later but I doubt I'll go back, needed to have that for the release</quote> This is a ridiculous problem to have. The games story is the selling point, not some arbitrary "difficulty" setting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SoundNetwork 09/13/18 12:09:44 AM #16:	hand holding is boring. remember how ass creed 3's first 1-2 hour was basically a tutorial? --- https://imgur.com/HcKBWZ6 <cite>SoundNetwork posted [p:908641701] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>hand holding is boring. remember how ass creed 3's first 1-2 hour was basically a tutorial?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMarthKoopa 09/13/18 12:09:49 AM #17:	TonyKojima posted... Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed! Get good <cite>TheMarthKoopa posted [p:908641708] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote>Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed!</quote> Get good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:09:55 AM #18:	SoundNetwork posted... hand holding is boring. remember how ass creed 3's first 1-2 hour was basically a tutorial? And? --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908641716] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>SoundNetwork posted...</cite> <quote>hand holding is boring. remember how ass creed 3's first 1-2 hour was basically a tutorial?</quote> And?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaithSayer 09/13/18 12:11:47 AM #19:	TonyKojima posted... TheMarthKoopa posted... What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed! It's boring to manage almost everything the first time you try. When you have to try several times and get pissed and then finally buckle down and get it, it actually feels satisfying and earned. <cite>SaithSayer posted [p:908641803] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMarthKoopa posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press</quote> Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed!</quote> It's boring to manage almost everything the first time you try. When you have to try several times and get pissed and then finally buckle down and get it, it actually feels satisfying and earned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:12:52 AM #20:	SaithSayer posted... TonyKojima posted... TheMarthKoopa posted... What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed! It's boring to manage almost everything the first time you try. When you have to try several times and get pissed and then finally buckle down and get it, it actually feels satisfying and earned. No it feels like waste and a stressful event. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908641861] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>SaithSayer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMarthKoopa posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press</quote> Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed!</quote> It's boring to manage almost everything the first time you try. When you have to try several times and get pissed and then finally buckle down and get it, it actually feels satisfying and earned.</quote> No it feels like waste and a stressful event.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 09/13/18 12:13:44 AM #21:	TonyKojima posted... rikasa posted... It should have an easy mode but not as the only option. That is why I stopped playing Ni no Kuni after about 12 hours. They added a higher difficulty level months later but I doubt I'll go back, needed to have that for the release This is a ridiculous problem to have. The games story is the selling point, not some arbitrary "difficulty" setting. How is it arbitrary? A well crafted game will be balanced at multiple difficulty settings for different skill levels. Look at something like the Persona games. They could have just given you one easy babby mode and told you to enjoy the story but they didn't. It's actually a challenging game no matter how good of a gamer you are. No reason to defend lazy game design, friend. --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:908641894] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>rikasa posted...</cite> <quote>It should have an easy mode but not as the only option. That is why I stopped playing Ni no Kuni after about 12 hours. They added a higher difficulty level months later but I doubt I'll go back, needed to have that for the release</quote> This is a ridiculous problem to have. The games story is the selling point, not some arbitrary "difficulty" setting.</quote> How is it arbitrary? A well crafted game will be balanced at multiple difficulty settings for different skill levels. Look at something like the Persona games. They could have just given you one easy babby mode and told you to enjoy the story but they didn't. It's actually a challenging game no matter how good of a gamer you are. No reason to defend lazy game design, friend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 09/13/18 12:14:01 AM #22:	git gud <cite>Reis posted [p:908641907] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>git gud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 09/13/18 12:14:08 AM #23:	TonyKojima posted... SaithSayer posted... TonyKojima posted... TheMarthKoopa posted... What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed! It's boring to manage almost everything the first time you try. When you have to try several times and get pissed and then finally buckle down and get it, it actually feels satisfying and earned. No it feels like waste and a stressful event. If it felt like a waste then why are you still bothering to play? --- You've fought the strongest, the second strongest, the fourth strongest, and the weakest master! Now you see the true advantage of being third strongest master! <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:908641911] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SaithSayer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMarthKoopa posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press</quote> Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed!</quote> It's boring to manage almost everything the first time you try. When you have to try several times and get pissed and then finally buckle down and get it, it actually feels satisfying and earned.</quote> No it feels like waste and a stressful event.</quote> If it felt like a waste then why are you still bothering to play?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SquirrelyDan 09/13/18 12:17:02 AM #24:	I like games where you have actual difficulty options. If you have to play a game on a default setting it's likely to annoy someone. Either it's too hard or too easy. Options are always appreciated. I also can't play certain games anymore after i had reconstructive hand surgery years ago. Like fighting games or games with crazy combo systems like DMC or Bayonetta. They are too hard for me to play without physically hurting myself, so I just avoid them entirely. Play whatever you like, TC, and forget idiots who tell you to git gud. --- Rams fan in L.A., then in St. Louis, and now in L.A. again <cite>SquirrelyDan posted [p:908642072] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>I like games where you have actual difficulty options. If you have to play a game on a default setting it's likely to annoy someone. Either it's too hard or too easy. Options are always appreciated. I also can't play certain games anymore after i had reconstructive hand surgery years ago. Like fighting games or games with crazy combo systems like DMC or Bayonetta. They are too hard for me to play without physically hurting myself, so I just avoid them entirely. Play whatever you like, TC, and forget idiots who tell you to git gud.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:17:15 AM #25:	3rd_Best_Master posted... TonyKojima posted... SaithSayer posted... TonyKojima posted... TheMarthKoopa posted... What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed! It's boring to manage almost everything the first time you try. When you have to try several times and get pissed and then finally buckle down and get it, it actually feels satisfying and earned. No it feels like waste and a stressful event. If it felt like a waste then why are you still bothering to play? I don't!! I sell it or throw it away and move onto something thats actually FUN. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908642085] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SaithSayer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMarthKoopa posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press</quote> Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed!</quote> It's boring to manage almost everything the first time you try. When you have to try several times and get pissed and then finally buckle down and get it, it actually feels satisfying and earned.</quote> No it feels like waste and a stressful event.</quote> If it felt like a waste then why are you still bothering to play?</quote> I don't!! I sell it or throw it away and move onto something thats actually FUN.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rikasa 09/13/18 12:20:30 AM #26:	https://psnprofiles.com/guncrazy56 Damn dude you don't even play video games lol. You just like sports sims. --- you are not alone <cite>rikasa posted [p:908642256] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>https://psnprofiles.com/guncrazy56 Damn dude you don't even play video games lol. You just like sports sims.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:20:58 AM #27:	rikasa posted... https://psnprofiles.com/guncrazy56 Damn dude you don't even play video games lol. You just like sports sims. I game on PC. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908642280] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>rikasa posted...</cite> <quote>https://psnprofiles.com/guncrazy56 Damn dude you don't even play video games lol. You just like sports sims.</quote> I game on PC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:21:23 AM #28:	rikasa posted... https://psnprofiles.com/guncrazy56 Damn dude you don't even play video games lol. You just like sports sims. And I don't appreciate the the tone of your post. Its insulting. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908642301] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>rikasa posted...</cite> <quote>https://psnprofiles.com/guncrazy56 Damn dude you don't even play video games lol. You just like sports sims.</quote> And I don't appreciate the the tone of your post. Its insulting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YukihoHagiwara 09/13/18 12:21:26 AM #29:	tc I like fun too, the problem with handholding is it so often interrupts actual gamplay to tell you shit 90% of the time you already figured out the absolute worst offenders are when whatever you're trying to do is right fucking in front of you/you're doing whatever action the handholding tutorialist is about to get you to do and gamplay has to stop to listen to them tell you "hey I think that thing right in front of you is important" or "press the a button twice to double jump" if you're defending shit like that you're not defending handholding you're just defending bad gam design --- 7Dd_jr_dF0Y <cite>YukihoHagiwara posted [p:908642302] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>tc I like fun too, the problem with handholding is it so often interrupts actual gamplay to tell you shit 90% of the time you already figured out the absolute worst offenders are when whatever you're trying to do is right fucking in front of you/you're doing whatever action the handholding tutorialist is about to get you to do and gamplay has to stop to listen to them tell you "hey I think that thing right in front of you is important" or "press the a button twice to double jump" if you're defending shit like that you're not defending handholding you're just defending bad gam design</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:24:56 AM #30:	YukihoHagiwara posted... tc I like fun too, the problem with handholding is it so often interrupts actual gamplay to tell you shit 90% of the time you already figured out the absolute worst offenders are when whatever you're trying to do is right fucking in front of you/you're doing whatever action the handholding tutorialist is about to get you to do and gamplay has to stop to listen to them tell you "hey I think that thing right in front of you is important" or "press the a button twice to double jump" if you're defending shit like that you're not defending handholding you're just defending bad gam design No I should be able to basically "rewind" my gameplay to fix mistakes, I should get unlimited chances with the attempts getting easier and easier each time but have the same reward etc etc. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908642458] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>YukihoHagiwara posted...</cite> <quote>tc I like fun too, the problem with handholding is it so often interrupts actual gamplay to tell you shit 90% of the time you already figured out the absolute worst offenders are when whatever you're trying to do is right fucking in front of you/you're doing whatever action the handholding tutorialist is about to get you to do and gamplay has to stop to listen to them tell you "hey I think that thing right in front of you is important" or "press the a button twice to double jump" if you're defending shit like that you're not defending handholding you're just defending bad gam design</quote> No I should be able to basically "rewind" my gameplay to fix mistakes, I should get unlimited chances with the attempts getting easier and easier each time but have the same reward etc etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YukihoHagiwara 09/13/18 12:27:25 AM #31:	well if you play on pc then you're in luck because emulators exist, save at any spot during any action and even rewind gamplay congratulations you win tc --- 7Dd_jr_dF0Y <cite>YukihoHagiwara posted [p:908642570] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>well if you play on pc then you're in luck because emulators exist, save at any spot during any action and even rewind gamplay congratulations you win tc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:28:12 AM #32:	YukihoHagiwara posted... well if you play on pc then you're in luck because emulators exist, save at any spot during any action and even rewind gamplay congratulations you win tc Yes I do that. Its made some classics fun again. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908642609] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>YukihoHagiwara posted...</cite> <quote>well if you play on pc then you're in luck because emulators exist, save at any spot during any action and even rewind gamplay congratulations you win tc</quote> Yes I do that. Its made some classics fun again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The-Apostle 09/13/18 12:28:36 AM #33:	Meh... I just got the Time Cop and Time Lord achievements in Quantum Break. Last fight was hard (only because of the juggernaut), the rest of the game was easy. --- http://goo.gl/mnO36O #GoPackGo Not changing sig until NHL players are allowed to play in the Olympics. Started 2/22/2018 <cite>The-Apostle posted [p:908642628] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>Meh... I just got the Time Cop and Time Lord achievements in Quantum Break. Last fight was hard (only because of the juggernaut), the rest of the game was easy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:30:31 AM #34:	Like I wanted to playy Company of Heroes 2 online (I think online play has ruined gaming) for the first time in years I don't ever play anything online. I couldn't even find a game everyone has bad attitudes and whines about putting the AI on expert level. Sorry thats not fun at all its cheating by the computer. I want to play on easy, MAYBE normal if it isn't too much. I uninstalled the game after completing both campaigns. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908642705] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>Like I wanted to playy Company of Heroes 2 online (I think online play has ruined gaming) for the first time in years I don't ever play anything online. I couldn't even find a game everyone has bad attitudes and whines about putting the AI on expert level. Sorry thats not fun at all its cheating by the computer. I want to play on easy, MAYBE normal if it isn't too much. I uninstalled the game after completing both campaigns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 09/13/18 12:32:16 AM #35:	TonyKojima posted... YukihoHagiwara posted... well if you play on pc then you're in luck because emulators exist, save at any spot during any action and even rewind gamplay congratulations you win tc Yes I do that. Its made some classics fun again. They can screw you up too. Had to go back to official saves because of some bad save I couldn't get out of. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:908642785] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YukihoHagiwara posted...</cite> <quote>well if you play on pc then you're in luck because emulators exist, save at any spot during any action and even rewind gamplay congratulations you win tc</quote> Yes I do that. Its made some classics fun again.</quote> They can screw you up too. Had to go back to official saves because of some bad save I couldn't get out of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squidkids 09/13/18 12:32:22 AM #36:	Vyrulisse posted... TonyKojima posted... Samman123 posted... Peope enjoy challenging stuff too Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off. Then put it on baby mode and leave everyone else alone? Nothing wrong with the option of noob mode but don't castrate the entire game for everyone for it this, play the easy mode, i want to play hard mode t figure things out. --- Be a team player, guard those super jump rings. See a team member inking a wall to swim up on? ink with them. Ink your foes into ash. http://tinyurl.com/z7hbzrr <cite>Squidkids posted [p:908642788] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samman123 posted...</cite> <quote>Peope enjoy challenging stuff too</quote> Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off.</quote> Then put it on baby mode and leave everyone else alone? Nothing wrong with the option of noob mode but don't castrate the entire game for everyone for it</quote> this, play the easy mode, i want to play hard mode t figure things out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:35:58 AM #37:	I wish the Dark Souls series bombed. Its not fun, and its waaaaaaaay too hard and has no easy mode. No buy for me hopefully the series tanks. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908642945] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>I wish the Dark Souls series bombed. Its not fun, and its waaaaaaaay too hard and has no easy mode. No buy for me hopefully the series tanks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 09/13/18 12:38:18 AM #38:	TonyKojima posted... Samman123 posted... Peope enjoy challenging stuff too Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off. probably want to stay away from riptige GP: Renegade this is the epitome of challenge and getting pissed off. so many retry's but it was worth it when owning those bastards in jet ski races. --- I'm pretty much Stu from Rugrats making pudding at 4 in morning because I've lost control of my life - Polycosm <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:908643042] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samman123 posted...</cite> <quote>Peope enjoy challenging stuff too</quote> Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off.</quote> probably want to stay away from riptige GP: Renegade this is the epitome of challenge and getting pissed off. so many retry's but it was worth it when owning those bastards in jet ski races.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaithSayer 09/13/18 12:39:19 AM #39:	I'd love to watch this guy play Viewitful Joe. <cite>SaithSayer posted [p:908643079] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>I'd love to watch this guy play Viewitful Joe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 12:44:10 AM #40:	Do not mistake my disdain for difficulty with lack of skill. I am quite capable of doing most things I just hate it and refuse to anymore. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908643276] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>Do not mistake my disdain for difficulty with lack of skill. I am quite capable of doing most things I just hate it and refuse to anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ki_cat_ 09/13/18 12:49:55 AM #41:	Why do you have a problem with difficulty? Same answer. Everyone has different preferences. I'm okay with optimal easy mode and stuff but I also enjoy challenges. They don't piss me off or anything. I take a break if it isn't fun. I for one find most games easy. I learn the quirks in a few hours. As for random drops and junk? It's double edged. Yes, the games are usually built around it but it can get so tedious. The inherit problem with lots of hand holding is that it's forced upon seasoned players who don't need the help. Good thing there are lots of types of games out there. I can relax with hard games or easy stuff. It comes to how much time you want to invest. I don't really want to grind levels to beat stuff. That's mindless difficulty. Give me stuff where I need some technique. --- People are afraid of what they don't understand. <cite>Ki_cat_ posted [p:908643482] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>Why do you have a problem with difficulty? Same answer. Everyone has different preferences. I'm okay with optimal easy mode and stuff but I also enjoy challenges. They don't piss me off or anything. I take a break if it isn't fun. I for one find most games easy. I learn the quirks in a few hours. As for random drops and junk? It's double edged. Yes, the games are usually built around it but it can get so tedious. The inherit problem with lots of hand holding is that it's forced upon seasoned players who don't need the help. Good thing there are lots of types of games out there. I can relax with hard games or easy stuff. It comes to how much time you want to invest. I don't really want to grind levels to beat stuff. That's mindless difficulty. Give me stuff where I need some technique.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 09/13/18 1:46:43 AM #42:	Ki_cat_ posted... Why do you have a problem with difficulty? Same answer. Everyone has different preferences. I'm okay with optimal easy mode and stuff but I also enjoy challenges. They don't piss me off or anything. I take a break if it isn't fun. I for one find most games easy. I learn the quirks in a few hours. As for random drops and junk? It's double edged. Yes, the games are usually built around it but it can get so tedious. The inherit problem with lots of hand holding is that it's forced upon seasoned players who don't need the help. Good thing there are lots of types of games out there. I can relax with hard games or easy stuff. It comes to how much time you want to invest. I don't really want to grind levels to beat stuff. That's mindless difficulty. Give me stuff where I need some technique. Because it adds to stress and anxiety. I don't like to be angry and upset when playing video games. --- Though the XBOX 360 is good in theory, it's hardware limitations say otherwise - Hideo Kojima PSN - Guncrazy56, Board leader of 261 Politics. <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:908645459] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ki_cat_ posted...</cite> <quote>Why do you have a problem with difficulty? Same answer. Everyone has different preferences. I'm okay with optimal easy mode and stuff but I also enjoy challenges. They don't piss me off or anything. I take a break if it isn't fun. I for one find most games easy. I learn the quirks in a few hours. As for random drops and junk? It's double edged. Yes, the games are usually built around it but it can get so tedious. The inherit problem with lots of hand holding is that it's forced upon seasoned players who don't need the help. Good thing there are lots of types of games out there. I can relax with hard games or easy stuff. It comes to how much time you want to invest. I don't really want to grind levels to beat stuff. That's mindless difficulty. Give me stuff where I need some technique.</quote> Because it adds to stress and anxiety. I don't like to be angry and upset when playing video games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/13/18 1:47:14 AM #43:	TonyKojima posted... Samman123 posted... Peope enjoy challenging stuff too Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off. That's nice dear --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:908645477] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samman123 posted...</cite> <quote>Peope enjoy challenging stuff too</quote> Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off.</quote> That's nice dear</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QwelzaarKane 09/13/18 7:44:27 AM #44:	I dislike hand-holding because it is insulting and bad game design. As a human, I'm pretty adept at figuring stuff out. A developer should be able to teach me how to play their game and guide me through it without explicitly telling me what to do all the time (if at all). --- Ain't no love shown but to those who down til we die <cite>QwelzaarKane posted [p:908653459] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>I dislike hand-holding because it is insulting and bad game design. As a human, I'm pretty adept at figuring stuff out. A developer should be able to teach me how to play their game and guide me through it without explicitly telling me what to do all the time (if at all).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bok_Choi 09/13/18 7:46:29 AM #45:	TonyKojima posted... I should NEVER have to spend days stuck on a puzzle, boss fight, task, etc etc. I play games to unwind not to get angry and pissed off. ITP: Someone whose parents did their homework for them --- I'm a good person. https://imgur.com/Pto3yPa https://imgur.com/xPDF9Y0 <cite>Bok_Choi posted [p:908653533] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote>I should NEVER have to spend days stuck on a puzzle, boss fight, task, etc etc. I play games to unwind not to get angry and pissed off. </quote> ITP: Someone whose parents did their homework for them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/13/18 7:47:33 AM #46:	When so many games have their first 1-2 hours being a boring, needless tutorial, it's a problem. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:908653564] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>When so many games have their first 1-2 hours being a boring, needless tutorial, it's a problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 09/13/18 8:16:32 AM #47:	TonyKojima posted... TheMarthKoopa posted... What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed! Sounds just like your efforts to get a GED. --- https://imgur.com/cfZmEFd Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:908654483] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMarthKoopa posted...</cite> <quote>What's the point of "playing" something if you're just doing what the game tells you to down to every button press</quote> Whats the point of "playing" something if you're just going to do the same part over and over and over and over? Yay on the 500th attempt you passed!</quote> Sounds just like your efforts to get a GED.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 09/13/18 8:18:11 AM #48:	IMO people don't have a problem with anything until it's a game they don't like so they use this reason to justify why the game is bad. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Capcom Defense Force <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:908654531] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>IMO people don't have a problem with anything until it's a game they don't like so they use this reason to justify why the game is bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 09/13/18 8:18:56 AM #49:	Vyrulisse posted... TonyKojima posted... Samman123 posted... Peope enjoy challenging stuff too Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off. Then put it on baby mode and leave everyone else alone? Nothing wrong with the option of noob mode but don't castrate the entire game for everyone for it this lol --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 http://i.minus.com/iluvk8aR4mzC8.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:908654555] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vyrulisse posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TonyKojima posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samman123 posted...</cite> <quote>Peope enjoy challenging stuff too</quote> Thats wonderful, I don't and I don't spend my money to be "challenged" and pissed off.</quote> Then put it on baby mode and leave everyone else alone? Nothing wrong with the option of noob mode but don't castrate the entire game for everyone for it</quote> this lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 09/13/18 8:20:23 AM #50:	But then there's the stigma of "If you don't play it the hard way then you're a pussy". --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Capcom Defense Force <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:908654603] in Why do peo... [t:76996368]...</cite> <quote>But then there's the stigma of "If you don't play it the hard way then you're a pussy".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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