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s0nicfan 09/12/18 2:48:59 PM #1: |
https://lithub.com/we-cant-ignore-h-p-lovecrafts-white-supremacy/
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Flockaveli 09/12/18 2:51:03 PM #2: |
Took them long enough.
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dreamvoid 09/12/18 2:51:52 PM #3: |
well, he was racist, and not in the casual way. that doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy his works, though.
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davyheinz 09/12/18 2:52:29 PM #4: |
Who is they?
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MacadamianNut3 09/12/18 2:53:35 PM #5: |
>now
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s0nicfan 09/12/18 2:55:05 PM #6: |
MacadamianNut3 posted...
>now Good catch. I just saw it posted on facebook and assumed it was new. My bad. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LuffySkull 09/12/18 3:01:38 PM #7: |
Yeah. He had views of his time. They were not good views but it wasnt a crazy to believe that back then.
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Zikten 09/12/18 3:04:44 PM #8: |
Slow ass people. Only took them 90 years
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pebblethefleet 09/12/18 3:05:30 PM #9: |
They? Now? This has been a point of discussion for as long as Ive been into him, which is at least 10 years now
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Rexdragon125 09/12/18 3:08:24 PM #10: |
LuffySkull posted...
Yeah. He had views of his time. They were not good views but it wasnt as crazy to believe that back then. This People were more racist then, oh no ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 09/12/18 3:08:59 PM #11: |
People have been saying this for years actually
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Alpha218 09/12/18 3:10:18 PM #12: |
eston posted...
People have been saying this for years actually Many, many years --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: Rainbow 6: Siege, Skyrim, Okami ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 09/12/18 3:10:43 PM #13: |
Now?
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Blue_Inigo 09/12/18 3:10:52 PM #14: |
Alpha218 posted...
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creativerealms 09/12/18 3:11:19 PM #15: |
Now? The man is well known for his racism. It doesn't change the quality of his work but this isn't a new thing. The man was very racist and very sexist.
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nemu 09/12/18 3:13:09 PM #16: |
I don't get this idea that someone's abhorrent views should affect their entire cultural perception. Like, if there's a statue of a guy and it turns out the guy raped and murdered a bunch of people in the 1700s, sure, take down that statue. But if a person committed acts that were the cultural norm or held views that might have been culturally normal, who cares? Those actions and views should not be held in high regard, but we also do not have to scrub them from literally everything. This is especially true in a society where people buy and sell Hitler's book.
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MeowMix101 09/12/18 3:15:44 PM #17: |
nemu posted...
I don't get this idea that someone's abhorrent views should affect their entire cultural perception. Like, if there's a statue of a guy and it turns out the guy raped and murdered a bunch of people in the 1700s, sure, take down that statue. But if a person committed acts that were the cultural norm or held views that might have been culturally normal, who cares? Those actions and views should not be held in high regard, but we also do not have to scrub them from literally everything. This is especially true in a society where people buy and sell Hitler's book. and yet we keep marx statues up when his ideology has lead to killing millions, there is a reason why he is both the grandfather of communism and nazi party(they got into power under saying they were socialists) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 09/12/18 3:16:11 PM #18: |
nemu posted...
But if a person committed acts that were the cultural norm or held views that might have been culturally normal, who cares? I mean it's been a while since I've read them, but Lovecraft's views were pretty out of the mainstream even in the 20s --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 09/12/18 3:16:56 PM #19: |
MeowMix101 posted...
and nazi party(they got into power under saying they were socialists) The Nazi Party vehemently opposed socialists and communists prior to and after assuming power in Germany --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 09/12/18 3:18:57 PM #20: |
nemu posted...
I don't get this idea that someone's abhorrent views should affect their entire cultural perception. Like, if there's a statue of a guy and it turns out the guy raped and murdered a bunch of people in the 1700s, sure, take down that statue. But if a person committed acts that were the cultural norm or held views that might have been culturally normal, who cares? Those actions and views should not be held in high regard, but we also do not have to scrub them from literally everything. This is especially true in a society where people buy and sell Hitler's book. Nah thats stupid. Fuck em --- "This is your last dance." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trigger_Walnut 09/12/18 3:20:12 PM #21: |
"Now"? Lovecraft fans talk about his racism every week. I would know what with being in a few of their circles.
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smoke_break 09/12/18 3:20:23 PM #22: |
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dreamvoid 09/12/18 3:20:49 PM #23: |
Doom_Art posted...
nemu posted...But if a person committed acts that were the cultural norm or held views that might have been culturally normal, who cares? you're right. his views weren't just segregation is good. they were lynchings are good and protect people from the black menace. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nemu 09/12/18 3:22:13 PM #24: |
Doom_Art posted...
nemu posted...But if a person committed acts that were the cultural norm or held views that might have been culturally normal, who cares? He might be a bit more extreme in general, but I mostly mean in the context that you're going to find way more openly racist people from the 1860s to the 1960s than you would find in today's culture. Nobody should be overly shocked if some figure from that period or earlier holds horrible views. It doesn't change their writing. It doesn't change what they contributed to the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 09/12/18 3:24:33 PM #25: |
Blue_Inigo posted...
nemu posted...I don't get this idea that someone's abhorrent views should affect their entire cultural perception. Like, if there's a statue of a guy and it turns out the guy raped and murdered a bunch of people in the 1700s, sure, take down that statue. But if a person committed acts that were the cultural norm or held views that might have been culturally normal, who cares? Those actions and views should not be held in high regard, but we also do not have to scrub them from literally everything. This is especially true in a society where people buy and sell Hitler's book. No it's not. Most people in history had abhorrent giews to today's standards. If we do what you want we would wipe clean 90% of human history and culture ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IloveJesus 09/12/18 3:26:27 PM #26: |
dreamvoid posted...
well, he was racist, and not in the casual way. that doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy his works, though. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 09/12/18 3:30:16 PM #27: |
MeowMix101 posted...
that's revisionist history at its finest. go to any book burnings lately? --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 09/12/18 3:33:51 PM #28: |
lovecraft was a well-known racist ever since he was alive
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brestugo 09/12/18 3:34:07 PM #29: |
smoke_break posted...
Even for his time this dude was racist af. This. --- "Everything in the game is designed to kill you." - Hidetaka Miyazaki ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 09/12/18 3:34:44 PM #30: |
Hitler's group took over the existing National Socialist party in Germany and kept that name for themselves. They were not Marxists or communists though.
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NibeIungsnarf 09/12/18 3:34:57 PM #31: |
MeowMix101 posted...
and yet we keep marx statues up when his ideology has lead to killing millions This is dumb and I'm 99% sure you know it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MeowMix101 09/12/18 3:35:59 PM #32: |
monkmith posted...
MeowMix101 posted... lenin based communism(he just changed good amount honestly) off socialism and the nazi parties original name National Socialist German Workers' Party which was later changed to the nazi party ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pebblethefleet 09/12/18 3:37:04 PM #33: |
MeowMix101 posted...
monkmith posted...MeowMix101 posted... Lmao you showed your hand. Good run tho --- Never rebellious, and definitely not among the elite. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 09/12/18 3:37:41 PM #34: |
ok people you can safely ignore the obvious sockpuppet account "MeowMix101"
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monkmith 09/12/18 3:40:39 PM #35: |
MeowMix101 posted...
monkmith posted...MeowMix101 posted... republicans and peoples republic sound a lot alike... REPUBLICANS ARE COMMUNIST!!!!!!!!!!! --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC 09/12/18 3:46:47 PM #36: |
mario2000 posted...
ok people you can safely ignore the obvious sockpuppet account "MeowMix101" I mean, he's not wrong. The NSDAP did start out as socialists (or at least sprang from a socialist party), but Hitler had the socialists killed in the purge of 1934. --- "So much cruelty and madness in these days of despair That's not the way that I am, no, that's not the way that I am." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NibeIungsnarf 09/12/18 3:47:37 PM #37: |
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
I mean, he's not wrong. The NSDAP did start out as socialists (or at least sprang from a socialist party), but Hitler had the socialists killed in the purge of 1934. So he's wrong. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 09/12/18 3:47:41 PM #38: |
dreamvoid posted...
Never heard anything like this. Where'd it come from? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pebblethefleet 09/12/18 3:58:01 PM #39: |
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
mario2000 posted...ok people you can safely ignore the obvious sockpuppet account "MeowMix101" He literally just said Lenin was inspired by the Nazis --- Never rebellious, and definitely not among the elite. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC 09/12/18 4:13:03 PM #40: |
pebblethefleet posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...mario2000 posted...ok people you can safely ignore the obvious sockpuppet account "MeowMix101" Uh...no he didn't? He said Lenin was inspired by socialism. Socialism was around long before the Nazis, Lenin, or Marx. --- "So much cruelty and madness in these days of despair That's not the way that I am, no, that's not the way that I am." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pebblethefleet 09/12/18 4:15:52 PM #41: |
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
pebblethefleet posted...DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...mario2000 posted...ok people you can safely ignore the obvious sockpuppet account "MeowMix101" Lenin based communism off socialism and the Nazi partys original name... Either he said that or hes illiterate and cant construct a proper sentence --- Never rebellious, and definitely not among the elite. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 09/12/18 4:19:33 PM #42: |
LuffySkull posted...
Yeah. He had views of his time. They were not good views but it wasnt as crazy to believe that back then. He was considered racist even for his time --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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southcoast09 09/12/18 4:20:46 PM #43: |
davyheinz posted...
Who is they? The same people it always is. --- #MakeFinalFantasyGreatAgain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 09/12/18 4:22:40 PM #44: |
southcoast09 posted...
The same people it always is. Ah yes (((them))) more anti-semitic conspiracies from southcoast --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThyCorndog 09/12/18 4:22:52 PM #45: |
people realized he was racist a while ago. I remember this discussion from some years back. not really news tbh
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mario2000 09/12/18 4:26:15 PM #46: |
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...
mario2000 posted...ok people you can safely ignore the obvious sockpuppet account "MeowMix101" "he's not wrong except for the part where he's wrong" --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC 09/12/18 10:26:39 PM #47: |
pebblethefleet posted...
DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...pebblethefleet posted...DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...mario2000 posted...ok people you can safely ignore the obvious sockpuppet account "MeowMix101" I hope it's the sentence one, given that Lenin died in 1924 and the Nazi party was only formed in 1920. --- "So much cruelty and madness in these days of despair That's not the way that I am, no, that's not the way that I am." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ElatedVenusaur 09/12/18 11:11:51 PM #48: |
It should be obvious he's super racist just from the few times he mentions actual black people in his stories.
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VTBM 09/12/18 11:14:03 PM #50: |
Who cares
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ledbowman 09/12/18 11:14:24 PM #51: |
Not like he was subtle about it.
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