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thelovefist
09/12/18 4:01:28 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Its mostly the jump youre making from I dont know if there is anything negative coming from the situation straight to but if you disagree youre an idiot. You havent really expressed any negatives beyond Id have to talk to my kid about it or what if she imitated it and then Id have to talk to her about it.

I respect what you want for your own child, but youve decided that anyone who thinks differently is a piece of s*** without expressing any real reason why.


If people understand the possible consequences of allowing this to happen, and continue to allow it to happen, I'd say that's piece of shit worthy.

I mean, the consequences of driving a car is death, but we almost literally need cars to get by in todays society. We don't need to let our kids watch some stranger do a stripper dance. It's completely avoidable. Why allow them to watch it, aside from just to show how progressive you are? It's just, abohorent, really. I can't think of anything better to describe it.

You don't always need a logical reason behind why you don't do something. Like, I don't fart loudely in public. Why don't I just let it rip? I mean, who's it hurting, right? It's just inapproptriate. A small child staring at a person doing a naughty dance, mostly naked, just a few feet away? Also inappropriate. But only this time there is potently danger, as opposed to letting one rip in public.

Like I've already stated, children are super fuckin' impressionable. I have a 3 year old, and he's smart as hell. You know he knew his ABCs forward and backward before he was one? He was, like, 7 months or some crazy shit like that. However, he's still ultra impressionable. Mommy was watching a show on TV, and one of the characters said "Oh shit!". You know what happened IMMEDIATELY? My son said "lol, he said oh shit lololol". Yeah, it was funny, and we couldn't help but laugh, but we immediatly explained that it was inapproprate, and we shut the program off. We really don't want him to go to school and repeat it.

With that said, the kid could want to dance, mostly naked, in public like the dancing man, and be spotted doing so by an actual child predator. Poor child would probably immediatly go on that sickos bucket list. I mean, I'm not taking that chance. I hope others are willing to protect their children as well. If they aren't, then I hope they just avoid having children.

Thats highly speculative and reliant entirely on your not actually explaining context to your child, which seems like much more of a failing then allowing them to see that. It sounds more like parental paranoia than a real argument. Do you not explain to your child that some things arent ok for kids to do even though adults do it?

Shut the fuck up
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The Trent
09/12/18 4:03:21 PM
#205:


shockthemonkey posted...
i know nothing about children but god damn it i love arguing on the internet!

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Hawaiian_punch
09/12/18 4:03:59 PM
#206:


The Trent posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
i know nothing about children but god damn it i love arguing on the internet!


Hahahaha ^_^
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The Trent
09/12/18 4:05:42 PM
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i have two little girls
one is 7 and one is 3
your confidence is inspiring, if misplaced
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The Trent
09/12/18 4:15:40 PM
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the kind of shit that gets stuck in a kid's brain is hard to pin down
you never know what angle it's coming from, what they think of it, or how it will stay with them

you often don't get questions like "why is he doing that?" and you better believe you can't have a "why is that man taking off his clothes and shaking his crotch around while other men put money in his panties?" conversation with a 7 year old girl that doesn't lead to other questions that they are simply not ready to deal with

like, did i really have to explain this? =(
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Dyinglegacy
09/12/18 4:16:32 PM
#212:


shockthemonkey posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Its mostly the jump youre making from I dont know if there is anything negative coming from the situation straight to but if you disagree youre an idiot. You havent really expressed any negatives beyond Id have to talk to my kid about it or what if she imitated it and then Id have to talk to her about it.

I respect what you want for your own child, but youve decided that anyone who thinks differently is a piece of s*** without expressing any real reason why.


If people understand the possible consequences of allowing this to happen, and continue to allow it to happen, I'd say that's piece of shit worthy.

I mean, the consequences of driving a car is death, but we almost literally need cars to get by in todays society. We don't need to let our kids watch some stranger do a stripper dance. It's completely avoidable. Why allow them to watch it, aside from just to show how progressive you are? It's just, abohorent, really. I can't think of anything better to describe it.

You don't always need a logical reason behind why you don't do something. Like, I don't fart loudely in public. Why don't I just let it rip? I mean, who's it hurting, right? It's just inapproptriate. A small child staring at a person doing a naughty dance, mostly naked, just a few feet away? Also inappropriate. But only this time there is potently danger, as opposed to letting one rip in public.

Like I've already stated, children are super fuckin' impressionable. I have a 3 year old, and he's smart as hell. You know he knew his ABCs forward and backward before he was one? He was, like, 7 months or some crazy shit like that. However, he's still ultra impressionable. Mommy was watching a show on TV, and one of the characters said "Oh shit!". You know what happened IMMEDIATELY? My son said "lol, he said oh shit lololol". Yeah, it was funny, and we couldn't help but laugh, but we immediatly explained that it was inapproprate, and we shut the program off. We really don't want him to go to school and repeat it.

With that said, the kid could want to dance, mostly naked, in public like the dancing man, and be spotted doing so by an actual child predator. Poor child would probably immediatly go on that sickos bucket list. I mean, I'm not taking that chance. I hope others are willing to protect their children as well. If they aren't, then I hope they just avoid having children.

Thats highly speculative and reliant entirely on your not actually explaining context to your child, which seems like much more of a failing then allowing them to see that. It sounds more like parental paranoia than a real argument. Do you not explain to your child that some things arent ok for kids to do even though adults do it?


I do. And he listens for the most part, but he also asks "why" and likes to tempt me by doing things I've told him not to do anyway. He's a wiggly bugger, sometimes.

The parents in this scenario don't appear to be present, so maybe they won't know what she witnessed to even be able to explain it to her, or maybe they don't care.

I looked at images that I shouldn't have looked at when I was young, and it fucked with me. I wasn't 3, so I didn't actual act them out, but I did have problems from it.

I mean, potential issues caused can be avoided, so why even play with it?

Whatever, tho. We have come to an impasse.
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The Trent
09/12/18 4:18:26 PM
#213:


Dyinglegacy posted...
I do. And he listens for the most part, but he also asks "why" and likes to tempt me by doing things I've told him not to do anyway. He's a wiggly bugger, sometimes.

The parents in this scenario don't appear to be present, so maybe they won't know what she witnessed to even be able to explain it to her, or maybe they don't care.

I looked at images that I shouldn't have looked at when I was young, and it fucked with me. I wasn't 3, so I didn't actual act them out, but I did have problems from it.

I mean, potential issues caused can be avoided, so why even play with it?

Whatever, tho. We have come to an impasse.


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SuperMedz3
09/12/18 4:21:03 PM
#214:


shockthemonkey posted...
GregShmedley posted...
@shockthemonkey

I'm curious, if a woman was randomly walking on the street and passed by this guy and felt extremely uncomfortable and even violated, what were your thoughts be?

Shes entitled to her feelings and hes entitled to be like that. But I cant imagine how shed actually be harmed by that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A" data-time="

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Hawaiian_punch
09/12/18 4:34:42 PM
#216:


GregShmedley posted...
@shockthemonkey

I'm curious, if a woman was randomly walking on the street and passed by this guy and felt extremely uncomfortable and even violated, what were your thoughts be?


Youre a genius. You have forced him to face his own inconsistencies.
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Hawaiian_punch
09/12/18 4:35:23 PM
#218:


SuperMedz3 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
GregShmedley posted...
@shockthemonkey

I'm curious, if a woman was randomly walking on the street and passed by this guy and felt extremely uncomfortable and even violated, what were your thoughts be?

Shes entitled to her feelings and hes entitled to be like that. But I cant imagine how shed actually be harmed by that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A" data-time="


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Hawaiian_punch
09/12/18 4:35:51 PM
#219:


shockthemonkey posted...
The Trent posted...
the kind of shit that gets stuck in a kid's brain is hard to pin down
you never know what angle it's coming from, what they think of it, or how it will stay with them

you often don't get questions like "why is he doing that?" and you better believe you can't have a "why is that man taking off his clothes and shaking his crotch around while other men put money in his panties?" conversation with a 7 year old girl that doesn't lead to other questions that they are simply not ready to deal with

like, did i really have to explain this? =(

But you are capable of explaining to them that they shouldnt do that and its an adult thing and put it into context of the event, right?


How do you feel about the age of consent? Answer!
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BJ-blazkowics
09/12/18 4:42:44 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
GregShmedley posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Shes entitled to her feelings and hes entitled to be like that. But I cant imagine how shed actually be harmed by that.


I appreciate the consistency.

I think you aren't considering the potential harm of the child being predisposed to sexuality at such a young age though. He may not be having sex with someone else but he is practically naked and gyrating his body, and grabbing his crotch from the look of it. Early exposure to sexuality can lead to children having sex at an earlier age which often means they are having unprotected sex and even with multiple partners.

I also think you are downplaying why a woman would feel uncomfortable as well.

Do you have any evidence to back that up? Like if theres anything to actually demonstrate that this harms children then Ill change my mind immediately.


LMAO

Imagine investing all this time and effort into defending the idea of flopping your penis in front of a 5 yr old's face
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Key
09/12/18 5:01:16 PM
#223:


Raikuro posted...
How's that any worse than what you'd see at a public beach?


That said if I was the dude I'd definitely stop dancing once I noticed she was staring at me
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SuperMedz3
09/12/18 5:02:56 PM
#224:


Key posted...
Raikuro posted...
How's that any worse than what you'd see at a public beach?


That said if I was the dude I'd definitely stop dancing once I noticed she was staring at me

what beaches are you going to where guys are junk dancing infront of children?
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Hawaiian_punch
09/12/18 5:13:03 PM
#226:


GregShmedley posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Do you have any evidence to back that up? Like if theres anything to actually demonstrate that this harms children then Ill change my mind immediately


https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/real-healing/201208/overexposed-and-under-prepared-the-effects-early-exposure-sexual-content

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BJ-blazkowics
09/12/18 5:27:49 PM
#229:


shockthemonkey posted...
So after reading that, yeah Im definitely on your side and thats got much worse potential than I expected. Good to know, and thanks again for actually providing evidence of harm.


I mean, it's common sense, but I'm glad that CE was able to show you the error in your ways
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Rad_Chad
09/12/18 5:31:40 PM
#230:


I've never understood the over-sexualization of pride parades in general... I don't care if you're straight or gay, a lot of that stuff is fucking inappropriate, bro. Parades need to be G-rated
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The Trent
09/12/18 5:33:58 PM
#232:


shockthemonkey posted...
The Trent posted...
the kind of shit that gets stuck in a kid's brain is hard to pin down
you never know what angle it's coming from, what they think of it, or how it will stay with them

you often don't get questions like "why is he doing that?" and you better believe you can't have a "why is that man taking off his clothes and shaking his crotch around while other men put money in his panties?" conversation with a 7 year old girl that doesn't lead to other questions that they are simply not ready to deal with

like, did i really have to explain this? =(

But you are capable of explaining to them that they shouldnt do that and its an adult thing and put it into context of the event, right?


you've never tried to explain something incredibly complicated and mature to a sub-8-year-old person
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Forlorn_Ass
09/12/18 5:38:08 PM
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This is the most disturbing thing I've watched since two guys 1 hammer, and I watch Hereditary yesterday.
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Dyinglegacy
09/12/18 5:44:51 PM
#234:


shockthemonkey posted...
GregShmedley posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Do you have any evidence to back that up? Like if theres anything to actually demonstrate that this harms children then Ill change my mind immediately


https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/real-healing/201208/overexposed-and-under-prepared-the-effects-early-exposure-sexual-content

Thanks for actually providing evidence instead of just ranting about how anyone who parents differently than you is an idiot, Ill check it out.


I'm glad that evidence has convinced you.

I'm also somewhat sad that evidence was required for an issue such as this.
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DoubleA22
09/12/18 5:50:46 PM
#235:


Absolutely nothing wrong with bringing your child to pride day or a pride parade..

This shit in this video is disgusting and that man should have gotten his ass kicked...twice.

Oh and charges pressed on him. Cause if that was a straight dude there would be rage
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DoubleA22
09/12/18 5:54:33 PM
#236:


@Raikuro posted...
How's that any worse than what you'd see at a public beach?


You normally see grown men pelvic thrusting in front of kids?

@QueenCarly posted...


So what? It's a guy dancing. Spare me the "think of the children" bullshit.

Don't project your homophobia onto a little girl


Homophobia?dude if they guy was straight this video would be all over the news and there would be outrage everywhere.

Its fucking insane that so many grown ass adults are perfectly okay with some dude in underwear dancing like a slut in front of a little girl.
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DoubleA22
09/12/18 5:55:58 PM
#237:


@shockthemonkey posted...
ShinobiNinjaX posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
What are you worried about happening to that girl because she saw this?

She might become fixated on what she saw and this could become a permanent memory.

Oh no not remembering something happened what a tragedy ahhhhhh


Hey man if you want a 95%naked dude thrusting his pelvis in your daughter's face go ahead...but this is wrong
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ShinobiNinjaX
09/12/18 5:58:34 PM
#238:


Hopefully shockthemonkey won't be having kids
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Houston
09/12/18 6:00:02 PM
#239:


The more I watch this video.. man oh man. Then a guy goes up and puts a dollar in his thong right in front of the girl.

These people are sick
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DoubleA22
09/12/18 6:00:33 PM
#240:


shockthemonkey posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
You think its okay to dance seductively in nothing but a thong in front a 4 year old? What the fuck?

Just because you were seduced doesnt mean everyone needs to freak out


I hope you never have kids if you would be okay with a stranger dancing like that dressed like that in front of them.

Cool, I dont care care, no one on your side can even tell us what theyre afraid of happening.


And no one on your side has a kid
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ZannoL
09/12/18 6:01:39 PM
#241:


I love how everyone in this topic assumes the dancer is gay.

Like, you guys do realize a bunch of straight guys are dancers too right? It's an easy way to make a ton of money.
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DoubleA22
09/12/18 6:01:45 PM
#242:


ShinobiNinjaX posted...
Hopefully shockthemonkey won't be having kids


@shockthemonkey is without a doubt trolling.

I highly doubt he would be okay with a grown man dancing sexually in front of his 5 yr old daughter.
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DoubleA22
09/12/18 6:02:17 PM
#243:


ZannoL posted...
I love how everyone in this topic assumes the dancer is gay.

Like, you guys do realize a bunch of straight guys are dancers too right? It's an easy way to make a ton of money.

It's a logical assumption to assume hes gay
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DoubleA22
09/12/18 6:05:14 PM
#245:


shockthemonkey posted...
Stop tagging me in your meltdown


No one is having a meltdown. Sorry you have shitty trollish views that are easily distinguishable from a serious post. My bad champ. Next time dont make it so obvious that you're trolling
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thelovefist
09/12/18 6:09:34 PM
#246:


DoubleA22 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Stop tagging me in your meltdown


No one is having a meltdown. Sorry you have shitty trollish views that are easily distinguishable from a serious post. My bad champ. Next time dont make it so obvious that you're trolling

To his credit he admitted his mistake...
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Learning
09/12/18 6:14:22 PM
#248:


Shut up Jerseyproud nobody cares
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Zodd3224
09/12/18 6:15:52 PM
#250:


ZannoL posted...
I love how everyone in this topic assumes the dancer is gay.

Like, you guys do realize a bunch of straight guys are dancers too right? It's an easy way to make a ton of money.


His sexual orientation is irrelevant
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thelovefist
09/12/18 6:16:36 PM
#251:


DoubleA22 posted...
thelovefist posted...
DoubleA22 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Stop tagging me in your meltdown


No one is having a meltdown. Sorry you have shitty trollish views that are easily distinguishable from a serious post. My bad champ. Next time dont make it so obvious that you're trolling

To his credit he admitted his mistake...


To anyones credit....its quite clear why this was wrong. He was just trolling until someone posted clear cut evidence that he couldnt troll and ignore

Who's alt is this?
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Kitt
09/12/18 6:16:55 PM
#252:


What an incredibly odd thing for that guy to do.

But this also reminds me of that topic where a dad paid and recorded a bunch of strippers to grind up on his son and half of CE tried to defend it.
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Learning
09/12/18 6:17:11 PM
#253:


I'm not the one frantically tagging everyone I'm desperate to get a response from. Practice what you preach.
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