Current Events > Spider Man PS4 looks kind of lame. An open world game heavily on rails

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I'm watching a streamer player it and you basically have to do everything exactly as the game demands it. Even when it doesn't make sense.

It plays like a scripted QTE sequence in Uncharted, only the whole game plays that way, with some button mashing grunts in between scripted sequences

yeah it sucks really badly, almost like superman 64 tier

So... it really is just an Arkham City knockoff?

My friend called it Spiderman - Arkham City so i thought it was good, i havent played it myself though. He likes it tho
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You could also try

I dunno

Playing the game yourself before forming an opinion on it?
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from what I've played, besides the tutorial, you're pretty much free to do and play how you want

but the one boss fight that I played was pretty scripted
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Questionmarktarius posted...

So... it really is just an Arkham City knockoff?

idk, I've never played any of the batman games besides the first one's demo and I thought the combat was boring.

But an example is a sequence where there is a helicopter flying around. You can't do anything, can't attack it or interact with it even though it's right in front of you and there's bad guys in it. You have to beat a bunch of grunt first, then you have to chase the helicopter in a scripted sequence, where somehow the copter is going faster than spider man. There are a ton of sequences like this, where there are cars faster than spider man etc

and you can't interact with things until the game says you are allowed to. And Spider Man gets tossed around and becomes vulnerable etc because they gave forces you to do stupid things. There is literally no freedom of play, every grunt fight transitions to QTE nonsense

The gameplay is pretty great. Dunno how it's on rails. You can play however you like.
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Doom_Art posted...

You could also try

I dunno

Playing the game yourself before forming an opinion on it?

He's been playing the game for 5 hours now and its everything I described. A bunch of linear qte sequences in a row. it's basically like just movie where the main character does dumb shit and gets constantly saved by minor characters etc

Milkman5 posted...

idk, I've never played any of the batman games besides the first one's demo and I thought the combat was boring.

I'm sorry, what.
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pegusus123456 posted...

I'm sorry, what.

yeah, I played the first arkham demo on ps3 and didn't think the combat was fun.
I don't really like beat em ups though

I dunno why you think you'd get a sense for the gameplay without having played it tho. That's puzzling to me.

I've played several hours of it so far and have no clue what you're talking about tbh
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Doom_Art posted...

I dunno why you think you'd get a sense for the gameplay without having played it tho. That's puzzling to me.

I've played several hours of it so far and have no clue what you're talking about tbh

I'm not really criticizing the grunt fights, I'm criticizing how the game is on rails and all the qte sequences

Milkman5 posted...

I'm criticizing how the game is on rails and all the qte sequences

Doom_Art posted...

I've played several hours of it so far and have no clue what you're talking about tbh

You did this with the Disney SW films too IIRC ya like takin shortcuts to havin opinions on stuff ya haven't played or watched
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Doom_Art posted...

You did this with the Disney SW films too IIRC ya like takin shortcuts to havin opinions on stuff ya haven't played or watched

None of what I described is something I would have to play myself to see. I saw that it didn't let him interact with the helicopter, I saw all the QTE sequences.

I saw that he had to do this, then do this, then do this, because he failed when he didn't do it in order or the objects wouldn't let him interact with them until he did them in exact order

Nall posted...

There are QTE sequences, but you really seem to be exaggerating them because theres not that many in the game and even if it does bug you theres an option to make them easier or turn them off.

Who actually enjoys QTEs anyway?

It's like Naughty Dog tropes times 1000

Milkman5 posted...

It's like Naughty Dog tropes times 1000

There ya go again lol
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Nall posted...

There are QTE sequences, but you really seem to be exaggerating them because theres not that many in the game and even if it does bug you theres an option to make them easier or turn them off.

Who actually enjoys QTEs anyway?

They remind me favorable of Telltale games lol so I left em on
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Damn, God forbid TC has the audacity to form a personal opinion about gameplay after watching 5 hours of lets play of it. TC, you should really buy the game first and play it before you have the audacity to tell us your thoughts on the gameplay of it.
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Milkman5 posted...

Doom_Art posted...

You did this with the Disney SW films too IIRC ya like takin shortcuts to havin opinions on stuff ya haven't played or watched

None of what I described is something I would have to play myself to see. I saw that it didn't let him interact with the helicopter, I saw all the QTE sequences.

I saw that he had to do this, then do this, then do this, because he failed when he didn't do it in order or the objects wouldn't let him interact with them until he did them in exact order

I don't get it. What did he try to do? The helicopter is out of reach.
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So to get this straight, TC is complaining that one mission had linear parts in it?
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Milkman5 posted...

It's like Naughty Dog tropes times 1000

I've actually played the game and the only time it's linear are when you're in an actual story mission. Those yellow way point markers that show up on the screen? Yeah, you don't have to get to them right away. You can do anything else you want. It's not a Naughty Dog game.
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Milkman5 posted...

He's been playing the game for 5 hours now and its everything I described. A bunch of linear qte sequences in a row. it's basically like just movie where the main character does dumb s*** and gets constantly saved by minor characters etc

Why are you lying? It's nothing like that at all.
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Darmik posted...

I don't get it. What did he try to do? The helicopter is out of reach.

It swooped down up to spider man and the streamer literally touched it, but it wouldn't let him web it or interact with it, or take it down or do anything.

Until of course the game decided, ok, spider-man is now allowed to touch the helicopter, via cutscene. Then it prompts a cut-scene where he chases the helicopter etc.

The game is kind of like, go here, interact with this, go here, do this. Basically everything is prompted. The entire environment is only intractable when it allows you to interact

like the game gives you the ok to touch the environment with QTE's like ok it's time to do this because this is how the fight goes or this is how the sequence goes.

Same with the boss fights. You just dodge until the game tells you to QTE something in the background and you can only do it when allowed or told to.

Obviously I've only seen a few of the boss fights so maybe some other ones are less scripted.

Banjo2553 posted...

Milkman5 posted...

It's like Naughty Dog tropes times 1000

I've actually played the game and the only time it's linear are when you're in an actual story mission. Those yellow way point markers that show up on the screen? Yeah, you don't have to get to them right away. You can do anything else you want. It's not a Naughty Dog game.

Oh, well the streamer is only playing Story missions for the sake of the stream.

So basically the meat is in the side quest and the Story missions are more about watching a movie?

Milkman5 posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

Milkman5 posted...

It's like Naughty Dog tropes times 1000

I've actually played the game and the only time it's linear are when you're in an actual story mission. Those yellow way point markers that show up on the screen? Yeah, you don't have to get to them right away. You can do anything else you want. It's not a Naughty Dog game.

Oh, well the streamer is only playing Story missions for the sake of the stream.

So basically the meat is in the side quest and the Story missions are more about watching a movie?

bruh you are so desperate do dislike this game you haven't even played
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I don't remember the helicopter swooping down there at all. The objective is to save Kingpin's men. Not fight the helicopter.
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When was the last time an open world game ACTUALLY let you complete objectives in story missions however you want?

This is such a bullshit complaint in modern gaming I swear

^ maybe Breath of the Wild
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boxington posted...

^ maybe Breath of the Wild

And the complaint is story/dungeons are limited.

It doesn't go both ways.

Darmik posted...

I don't remember the helicopter swooping down there at all. The objective is to save Kingpin's men. Not fight the helicopter.

I mean it did. I can probably clip it if you want >_>

maybe it was a glitch

X-Pac_Heat posted...

boxington posted...

^ maybe Breath of the Wild

And the complaint is story/dungeons are limited.

It doesn't go both ways.

Ultima 4 did.

I watched an entire streamer do the main story in one sitting on hard difficulty, I have to say, it's pretty bleh, like 7.5/10

Basically only two types of enemies: small and large, and boss fights aren't great

Combat is really repetitive, basically you want to stay up in the air as much as possible, and it's always the same combos over and over

The graphics and facial animation is fucking amazing and there were no fps drops at 30
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The helicopter does swoop down to an area where Kingpin's guys are at that you have to protect. The thing is that every game does shit like this in one way or the other. It's a dumb complaint and comes off as really nitpicky. The game is great and I was super skeptical beforehand.
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Milkman5 posted...

Darmik posted...

I don't remember the helicopter swooping down there at all. The objective is to save Kingpin's men. Not fight the helicopter.

I mean it did. I can probably clip it if you want >_>

maybe it was a glitch

It does a fly by but it doesn't really present itself as something you should attack or anything >_>

Milkman5 posted...

Darmik posted...

I don't remember the helicopter swooping down there at all. The objective is to save Kingpin's men. Not fight the helicopter.

I mean it did. I can probably clip it if you want >_>

maybe it was a glitch

I guess so. But the game never trains you to fight or takedown helicopters. There's no reason to believe you can do anything. That's why Spider-man tried to take it down with that big weight thing. It's also not your objective until you deal with the enemies on the roof.
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X-Pac_Heat posted...

boxington posted...

^ maybe Breath of the Wild

And the complaint is story/dungeons are limited.

It doesn't go both ways.

truu
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Sexypwnstar posted...

I watched an entire streamer do the main story in one sitting on hard difficulty, I have to say, it's pretty bleh, like 7.5/10

Basically only two types of enemies: small and large, and boss fights aren't great

Combat is really repetitive, basically you want to stay up in the air as much as possible, and it's always the same combos over and over

The graphics and facial animation is fucking amazing and there were no fps drops at 30

There's way more than two types of enemies. And there's a bunch of variation in the combat. Maybe the person you were watching was just boring. That's like watching someone play AssCreed but they just use the poison darts the whole game.
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X-Pac_Heat posted...

It does a fly by but it doesn't really present itself as something you should attack or anything >_>

Maybe it's because the guy I'm watching is completely irrational. He keeps trying to interact with things maybe a normal player wouldn't think of. Then he complains why he can't interact with it. Then it lets him interact with it 10 seconds later.

Like he was doing a puzzle with Mary Jane and he already solved the puzzle in his head, but the game wouldn't let him interact with the staff thingy until he prompted it to be intractable, by looking at the back of the book.

Milkman5 posted...

X-Pac_Heat posted...

It does a fly by but it doesn't really present itself as something you should attack or anything >_>

Maybe it's because the guy I'm watching is completely irrational. He keeps trying to interact with things maybe a normal player wouldn't think of. Then he complains why he can't interact with it. Then it lets him interact with it 10 seconds later.

Like he was doing a puzzle with Mary Jane and he already solved the puzzle in his head, but the game wouldn't let him interact with the staff thingy until he prompted it to be intractable, by looking at the back of the book.

In that case there would be no reason to pick up the staff as you can't place it until the statue opens its hand. He hadn't figured out the puzzle properly.
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Milkman5 posted...

X-Pac_Heat posted...

It does a fly by but it doesn't really present itself as something you should attack or anything >_>

Maybe it's because the guy I'm watching is completely irrational. He keeps trying to interact with things maybe a normal player wouldn't think of. Then he complains why he can't interact with it. Then it lets him interact with it 10 seconds later.

Like he was doing a puzzle with Mary Jane and he already solved the puzzle in his head, but the game wouldn't let him interact with the staff thingy until he prompted it to be intractable, by looking at the back of the book.

Oh, is Game Grumps doing a livestream of this game?
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