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frozenshock
09/08/18 10:30:40 PM
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There are Gerudos.

There are Ritos and Gorons. And of course the Hylians.

Every race has their own place to live. Their own culture.

They can be friends.

They can interact.

They can have some people living in another race's town once in a while.

But that's it.

Gerudos can't be Gorons. The heat is unbearable over there and they'd just die. Hylians can't be Ritos. You need to be able to fly.

That's how it is.

Every race is clearly defined and separate. No confusion.

They don't have to hate each other. Of course not. There can be friendship and harmony.

But they're separate.
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Megaman50100
09/08/18 10:33:07 PM
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Are you sure you aren't talking about sex or species?
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frozenshock
09/08/18 10:33:36 PM
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Megaman50100 posted...
Are you sure you aren't talking about sex or species?


I'm drunk so idk. I'll re-read this topic tomorrow morning.
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Smashingpmkns
09/08/18 10:33:50 PM
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Wasn't there a super racist zora in the zora domain
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Solar_Crimson
09/08/18 10:34:14 PM
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But different races of humans are still humans.

All of the BotW races are completely different species with their own biologies.
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K181
09/08/18 10:34:52 PM
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So what does Lord of the Rings tell us about European culture?
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thanosibe
09/08/18 10:36:56 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Wasn't there a super racist zora in the zora domain
Yes. Hes the one that wouldnt accept Link as a hero because he was Hylian based on previous Hylian behavior. He was the one you needed to find the lightning arrow locations to engage the divine beast.
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LordFarquad1312
09/08/18 10:37:18 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
But different races of humans are still humans.

All of the BotW races are completely different species with their own biologies.

Gerudos and Hylians are the same species. They are just sexist and don't allow men into their town.
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HylianFox
09/08/18 10:37:45 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Gerudos can't be Gorons. The heat is unbearable over there and they'd just die.

There's a Gerudo in Goron City who deals in gems
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Master_Bass
09/08/18 10:37:53 PM
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K181 posted...
So what does Lord of the Rings tell us about European culture?

One ring rules them all?
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Squall28
09/08/18 10:39:43 PM
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K181 posted...
So what does Lord of the Rings tell us about European culture?


Why were the orcs black, and all the good guys white?
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HylianFox
09/08/18 10:40:03 PM
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if anything, BotW has a lot more intermingling of races than previous Zelda games
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frozenshock
09/08/18 10:40:33 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
But different races of humans are still humans.

All of the BotW races are completely different species with their own biologies.


That's almost how some Japanese see it. There's a subset of Japanese who are obsessed with how biologically different pure japanese are from other races

I heard stories that some people in Japan are not even sure whether or not medication that works on Japanese would even work on non-japanese becuase of different biology
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Doe
09/08/18 10:41:03 PM
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frozenshock
09/08/18 10:41:22 PM
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Squall28 posted...
K181 posted...
So what does Lord of the Rings tell us about European culture?


Why were the orcs black, and all the good guys white?


But it's made clears that the orcs are just victims who are manipulated by a white man
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VerisimiIitude
09/08/18 10:41:58 PM
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HylianFox posted...
frozenshock posted...
Gerudos can't be Gorons. The heat is unbearable over there and they'd just die.

There's a Gerudo in Goron City who deals in gems

The Gerudo also had no problem letting a Goron into their city (for some reason)
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K181
09/08/18 10:42:03 PM
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Also, the Tarrey Town side quest was literally about all the races uniting into something better to save Hyrule.
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Doe
09/08/18 10:42:18 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
But different races of humans are still humans.

All of the BotW races are completely different species with their own biologies.


That's almost how some Japanese see it. There's a subset of Japanese who are obsessed with how biologically different pure japanese are from other races

I heard stories that some people in Japan are not even sure whether or not medication that works on Japanese would even work on non-japanese becuase of different biology

Also just to point out the different races get married and stuff in BotW. Link was theoretically in line to be king of the zoras as well.
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HylianFox
09/08/18 10:43:16 PM
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VerisimiIitude posted...
HylianFox posted...
frozenshock posted...
Gerudos can't be Gorons. The heat is unbearable over there and they'd just die.

There's a Gerudo in Goron City who deals in gems

The Gerudo also had no problem letting a Goron into their city (for some reason)

That's because Gorons are like Dwarves, you never see female Gorons.
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Solar_Crimson
09/08/18 10:45:59 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
But different races of humans are still humans.

All of the BotW races are completely different species with their own biologies.


That's almost how some Japanese see it. There's a subset of Japanese who are obsessed with how biologically different pure japanese are from other races

I heard stories that some people in Japan are not even sure whether or not medication that works on Japanese would even work on non-japanese becuase of different biology

Which I find kind of funny, because I read that what we think of "pure Japanese" are really descendants of people who migrated from Korea and China way back. The actual pure Japanese are the Ainu and other native populations.
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frozenshock
09/08/18 10:53:07 PM
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K181 posted...
Also, the Tarrey Town side quest was literally about all the races uniting into something better to save Hyrule.


You also hear this kind of thing in Japan.

All the world must unite and work together.

A message of peace and harmony.

Still doesn't change the facts that Zoras can't fly and Ritos can't swim.
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HylianFox
09/08/18 10:53:56 PM
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frozenshock posted...
Ritos can't swim.

they swim better than Gorons do
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gna647
09/08/18 10:55:13 PM
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Doesnt help that the worst character in the game is black

Talking about that bitch complaining about her honeymoon
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Squall28
09/08/18 10:57:07 PM
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gna647 posted...
Doesnt help that the worst character in the game is black

Talking about that bitch complaining about her honeymoon


Wait who?
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HylianFox
09/08/18 10:58:53 PM
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Squall28 posted...
gna647 posted...
Doesnt help that the worst character in the game is black

Talking about that bitch complaining about her honeymoon


Wait who?

I think it's the lady who likes baked apples.
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HiddenLurker
09/08/18 11:01:34 PM
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K181 posted...
So what does Lord of the Rings tell us about European culture?

Don't put a ring on it?
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Coffeebeanz
09/09/18 4:54:59 PM
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There's a ton of intermingling in BotW. Hylian "Vai" in Gerudo city, the Gorons visiting the Zora city, the Gorons making flame-proof suits for other races wanting to visit, etc.
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RoboLaserGandhi
09/09/18 4:58:36 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
frozenshock posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
But different races of humans are still humans.

All of the BotW races are completely different species with their own biologies.


That's almost how some Japanese see it. There's a subset of Japanese who are obsessed with how biologically different pure japanese are from other races

I heard stories that some people in Japan are not even sure whether or not medication that works on Japanese would even work on non-japanese becuase of different biology

Which I find kind of funny, because I read that what we think of "pure Japanese" are really descendants of people who migrated from Korea and China way back. The actual pure Japanese are the Ainu and other native populations.

I mean a very large portion of "native" people across the world were not the first humans of that land, they've just been the dominant ones for a very long time.
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Ilishe
09/09/18 5:03:05 PM
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K181 posted...
So what does Lord of the Rings tell us about European culture?


You mean how one race of people was made as a corrupt likeness of a "perfect" race?

Because that's what happened.
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