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ForestLogic
09/06/18 3:39:50 PM
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So God says he's gonna take an indefinite vacation and hands you a button which will make every person on Earth immortal. However, the big catch is that if you push it, no one can have children anymore.

-Rules-
1. Every living human is naturally immortal and will stop aging. Children under the age of 18 will keep aging until they hit 18 and that's it.
2. People can become sick, but they will always eventually recover, even if they contract something like AIDS or cancer.
3. Anyone currently sick with a terminal illness will soon recover from whatever illness they have.
4. Human birth cannot take place anymore. People can have as much sex as they want, but conception will never occur. People are still free to adopt children.
5. The only way to die is for someone to take their own life, which they can accomplish by wishing hard to die 5 times in 1 minute.

Do you push it?
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Mareen
09/06/18 3:41:57 PM
#2:


Fuck yeah I push it. I can have sex with none of the draw backs.
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Wedge Antilles
09/06/18 3:43:04 PM
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I push that damn button.
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FF_Redux
09/06/18 3:43:21 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
5. The only way to die is for someone to take their own life, which they can accomplish by wishing hard to die 5 times in 1 minute.


At least it will cure depression.
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ForestLogic
09/06/18 3:44:38 PM
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TBQH the only drawback I see is for people whom really want to conceive of their own children. I personally would push it in a heartbeat.
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Cartwheel_Kick
09/06/18 3:48:14 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
TBQH the only drawback I see is for people whom really want to conceive of their own children. I personally would push it in a heartbeat.


Overpopulation is to a point where we NEED people to stop making babies. This would force a fix.

So yes. Slammin dat buttin
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DarkProto05
09/06/18 3:50:22 PM
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Cartwheel_Kick posted...
ForestLogic posted...
TBQH the only drawback I see is for people whom really want to conceive of their own children. I personally would push it in a heartbeat.


Overpopulation is to a point where we NEED people to stop making babies. This would force a fix.

So yes. Slammin dat buttin

Not true for first world populations. Third world populations are in a crisis.
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DrizztLink
09/06/18 3:51:59 PM
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Do old people get healthier, or is Grandpa Joe gonna spend the rest of eternity in a nursing home?
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DK9292
09/06/18 3:52:57 PM
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ForestLogic
09/06/18 3:53:54 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Do old people get healthier, or is Grandpa Joe gonna spend the rest of eternity in a nursing home?


If it's the result of some sort of curable illness, then yes, they can get better. If it's just because he's old and his body has been ravaged by life, then unfortunately no :\

I guess that's the other drawback. People whom are in poor health, but not in life-threatening health, are kinda fucked.
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Cartwheel_Kick
09/06/18 4:04:10 PM
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DarkProto05 posted...
Cartwheel_Kick posted...
ForestLogic posted...
TBQH the only drawback I see is for people whom really want to conceive of their own children. I personally would push it in a heartbeat.


Overpopulation is to a point where we NEED people to stop making babies. This would force a fix.

So yes. Slammin dat buttin

Not true for first world populations. Third world populations are in a crisis.


And? Stopping or putting a brake on babymaking would only be beneficial to society, whichever the country. More resources for less people instead of less resources divided among more and more people, who are losing jobs to machines more and more.
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IHeartRadiation
09/06/18 4:19:30 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
Every living human is naturally immortal and will stop aging. Children under the age of 18 will keep aging until they hit 18 and that's it.

I'm sure someone so old that they aren't able to lift themselves out of bed would enjoy this a whole lot.
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ThePrinceFish
09/06/18 4:21:55 PM
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Cartwheel_Kick posted...
DarkProto05 posted...
Cartwheel_Kick posted...
ForestLogic posted...
TBQH the only drawback I see is for people whom really want to conceive of their own children. I personally would push it in a heartbeat.


Overpopulation is to a point where we NEED people to stop making babies. This would force a fix.

So yes. Slammin dat buttin

Not true for first world populations. Third world populations are in a crisis.


And? Stopping or putting a brake on babymaking would only be beneficial to society, whichever the country. More resources for less people instead of less resources divided among more and more people, who are losing jobs to machines more and more.

Surely there could be no demographic issues with first world countries dropping below replacement rate reproduction

Oh wait we already have that in Japan and are moving closer and closer in the West.
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NeoShadowhen
09/06/18 4:31:51 PM
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Yeah I'd push it. It would be so chaotic.
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ForestLogic
09/06/18 7:26:35 PM
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IHeartRadiation posted...
ForestLogic posted...
Every living human is naturally immortal and will stop aging. Children under the age of 18 will keep aging until they hit 18 and that's it.

I'm sure someone so old that they aren't able to lift themselves out of bed would enjoy this a whole lot.


Well yeah, it has to have some sort of drawbacks, otherwise it's not a good conversation piece. It'd be like asking "Scenario: A rich person gives you $1000 from their bank account. Do you take it?"
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Knowledge_King
09/06/18 8:18:52 PM
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No. And if someone did I'd hunt them down and make them suffer eternally for it.
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ForestLogic
09/06/18 10:27:31 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
No. And if someone did I'd hunt them down and make them suffer eternally for it.


Careful, someone might cut themselves on the edge here.
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DarkTransient
09/06/18 10:28:55 PM
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Can this be done as a temporary thing? Like eventually things go back to normal?

Also, what if someone's body gets like, completely obliterated. Say, they're standing next to a nuke and accidentally detonate it, full power.
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SailorGoon
09/06/18 10:38:45 PM
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There's a lot of drawbacks.
A lot of jobs would be lost. There'd be little need for occupation in the medical field, education, food service, etc.

Then there's the fact that there'd be few deterrents for war/crime since people are essentially immortal. Yeah, prison is still a thing I suppose, but death penalty wouldn't really work. And if everyone is sentenced to life... Well, prisons are already overcrowded as it is.

There's a lot that can go wrong. Really.
Whatll drive people to work? They don't need food to survive. I suppose shelter is a concern. Idk. People might eventually tire of living. There'd be no means to continue civilization. Less drive, even if people work to keep a roof over their head or clothes on their back. Hard pass on the button.
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ForestLogic
09/06/18 10:43:41 PM
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SailorGoon posted...
There'd be little need for occupation in the medical field, education, food service, etc.


People would still seek medical attention even if there's no threat to life.

No fucking idea why people would stop desiring an education just because they're immortal. Hell, if you lived forever, wouldn't your desire to learn stuff increase?

SailorGoon posted...
Whatll drive people to work? They don't need food to survive.


I said they won't die, not that they won't feel any discomfort ever again. You go longer than a day without eating, you're gonna be pretty damn hungry without dying lol.

SailorGoon posted...
People might eventually tire of living.


See Rule #5.

SailorGoon posted...
There'd be no means to continue civilization.


Lol what?
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OffTempo
09/06/18 10:44:47 PM
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I dont know if I want to be immortal at 18 though, rather be 21 - 25 years of age so I can legally drink. Otherwise Id push the button.
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nicklebro
09/06/18 10:45:53 PM
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No, you're basically ending the human race. Yeah there will be people but no more procreation And eventually everyone will choose to die, which I bet happens far quicker than one would imagine.
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Questionmarktarius
09/06/18 10:47:45 PM
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Cartwheel_Kick posted...
ForestLogic posted...
TBQH the only drawback I see is for people whom really want to conceive of their own children. I personally would push it in a heartbeat.


Overpopulation is to a point where we NEED people to stop making babies. This would force a fix.

So yes. Slammin dat buttin

What fix?
It would be very slow attrition, at best.
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ForestLogic
09/06/18 10:48:19 PM
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nicklebro posted...
No, you're basically ending the human race. Yeah there will be people but no more procreation And eventually everyone will choose to die, which I bet happens far quicker than one would imagine.


New Addendum:

#6. This rule only pertains to Planet Earth. If you leave the Earth's orbit and make it to the moon or another celestial body, people are no longer immortal.
(EDIT: Any area within Earth's atmosphere is a magic immortality zone if you re-enter it. If you bring a dead body back, it does not reanimate.)

Does this sway anybody's opinions?
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OffTempo
09/06/18 10:50:21 PM
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Lol no Im not going to the moon :P
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DarkTransient
09/06/18 10:51:15 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
#6. This rule only pertains to Planet Earth. If you leave the Earth's orbit and make it to the moon or another celestial body, people are no longer immortal.


What happens to someone who leaves and comes back? And does that still apply if you bring their dead body back?

What happens to an alien who wasn't here before, who then comes here? (If we assume they exist)
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Questionmarktarius
09/06/18 10:51:32 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
nicklebro posted...
No, you're basically ending the human race. Yeah there will be people but no more procreation And eventually everyone will choose to die, which I bet happens far quicker than one would imagine.


New Addendum:

#6. This rule only pertains to Planet Earth. If you leave the Earth's orbit and make it to the moon or another celestial body, people are no longer immortal.

Does this sway anybody's opinions?

So... we go out to the moon and mars and a handful of jovian moons anyway, and earth just becomes a retirement planet?
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ForestLogic
09/06/18 10:53:30 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
ForestLogic posted...
#6. This rule only pertains to Planet Earth. If you leave the Earth's orbit and make it to the moon or another celestial body, people are no longer immortal.


What happens to someone who leaves and comes back? And does that still apply if you bring their dead body back?

What happens to an alien who wasn't here before, who then comes here? (If we assume they exist)


Any area within Earth's atmosphere is a magic immortality zone if you re-enter it. If you bring a dead body back, it does not reanimate.

Questionmarktarius posted...
So... we go out to the moon and mars and a handful of jovian moons anyway, and earth just becomes a retirement planet?


Wellllllll, yeah, that could work then.
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nicklebro
09/06/18 10:53:38 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
nicklebro posted...
No, you're basically ending the human race. Yeah there will be people but no more procreation And eventually everyone will choose to die, which I bet happens far quicker than one would imagine.


New Addendum:

#6. This rule only pertains to Planet Earth. If you leave the Earth's orbit and make it to the moon or another celestial body, people are no longer immortal.

Does this sway anybody's opinions?

Wait, when does the immortality wear off? When you step off the ship? When you leave Earth's atmosphere? Cuz I'd like to pack everyone up and go to a new Galaxy but we'd need to be immortal for the trip.
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ForestLogic
09/06/18 10:54:46 PM
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nicklebro posted...
ForestLogic posted...
nicklebro posted...
No, you're basically ending the human race. Yeah there will be people but no more procreation And eventually everyone will choose to die, which I bet happens far quicker than one would imagine.


New Addendum:

#6. This rule only pertains to Planet Earth. If you leave the Earth's orbit and make it to the moon or another celestial body, people are no longer immortal.

Does this sway anybody's opinions?

Wait, when does the immortality wear off? When you step off the ship? When you leave Earth's atmosphere? Cuz I'd like to pack everyone up and go to a new Galaxy but we'd need to be immortal for the trip.


When you leave the ship. I just decided now it's magic Earth air that's fueling the immortality.
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DarkTransient
09/06/18 10:54:54 PM
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nicklebro posted...
ForestLogic posted...
nicklebro posted...
No, you're basically ending the human race. Yeah there will be people but no more procreation And eventually everyone will choose to die, which I bet happens far quicker than one would imagine.


New Addendum:

#6. This rule only pertains to Planet Earth. If you leave the Earth's orbit and make it to the moon or another celestial body, people are no longer immortal.

Does this sway anybody's opinions?

Wait, when does the immortality wear off? When you step off the ship? When you leave Earth's atmosphere? Cuz I'd like to pack everyone up and go to a new Galaxy but we'd need to be immortal for the trip.


Sigless users are excluded from the immortality anyway.
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Questionmarktarius
09/06/18 10:56:17 PM
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nicklebro posted...
Wait, when does the immortality wear off? When you step off the ship? When you leave Earth's atmosphere? Cuz I'd like to pack everyone up and go to a new Galaxy but we'd need to be immortal for the trip.

If we're all immortal, we have about three or four billion years to retrofit earth itself into a giant spaceship, before the sun explodes.
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SailorGoon
09/06/18 10:57:09 PM
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ForestLogic posted...
SailorGoon posted...
There'd be little need for occupation in the medical field, education, food service, etc.


People would still seek medical attention even if there's no threat to life.

No fucking idea why people would stop desiring an education just because they're immortal. Hell, if you lived forever, wouldn't your desire to learn stuff increase?

SailorGoon posted...
Whatll drive people to work? They don't need food to survive.


I said they won't die, not that they won't feel any discomfort ever again. You go longer than a day without eating, you're gonna be pretty damn hungry without dying lol.

SailorGoon posted...
People might eventually tire of living.


See Rule #5.

SailorGoon posted...
There'd be no means to continue civilization.


Lol what?

1. Still, a lot of jobs would be lost. The need isn't really there. Especially considering it's cheaper to just storm through the issues and heal naturally for free.

2. Okay but consider people who teach grades k - 12. They'd be SOL. Again, there's little drive for everyone to go to school. Immortality would definitely take away from the drive. I mean, they could learn tomorrow. They got all the time in the world. The point is, working in education isn't secure because you won't have a constant rotation of students.

3. Still, food isn't a necessity. You know people are gonna go ahead and save a buck where they can. There's no threat to not eating or drinking. It just all falls back on adding to the lack of drive.

4. Not what I meant. I saw rule 5. As in people who want to die will die. There will be nobody to replace them and humanity will be on a constant decline. Hence the whole no means. As you can't replace the dead. The old will stay old. The weak will stay weak.
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SailorGoon
09/06/18 11:08:30 PM
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Also, you said immortal. Not invincible. One could force death upon someone by making them wish they were dead through torture, starvation, a captive forced solitude, mutilation, etc...

People aren't going to tank the pain of getting, shot, stabbed, mutilated. They'll probably be in a state where they'll do whatever they can to escape the pain.
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nicklebro
09/06/18 11:10:12 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
nicklebro posted...
Wait, when does the immortality wear off? When you step off the ship? When you leave Earth's atmosphere? Cuz I'd like to pack everyone up and go to a new Galaxy but we'd need to be immortal for the trip.

If we're all immortal, we have about three or four billion years to retrofit earth itself into a giant spaceship, before the sun explodes.

Great goddamn idea.
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apocalyptic_4
09/06/18 11:15:47 PM
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If this happens you'll see a rapid loss in the population.
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