Current Events > EU will vote on extinction-level anti-internet regulations in 1 week

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FLUFFYGERM
09/06/18 3:20:51 PM
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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/09/why-whole-world-should-be-arms-about-eus-looming-internet-catastrophe

In exactly one week, the European Parliament will hold a crucial debate and vote on a proposal so terrible, it can only be called an extinction-level event for the Internet as we know it.

Under Article 11 the "link tax" online services are banned from allowing links to news services on their platforms unless they get a license to make links to the news; the rule does not define "news service" or "link," leaving 28 member states to make up their own definitions and leaving it to everyone else to comply with 28 different rules.

Under Article 13 the "censorship machines" anyone who allows users to communicate in public by posting audio, video, stills, code, or anything that might be copyrighted must send those posts to a copyright enforcement algorithm. The algorithm will compare it to all the known copyrighted works (anyone can add anything to the algorithm's database) and censor it if it seems to be a match.

These extreme, unworkable proposals represent a grave danger to the Internet. The link tax means that only the largest, best-funded companies will be able to offer a public space where the news can be discussed and debated. The censorship machines are a gift to every petty censor and troll (just claim copyright in an embarrassing recording and watch as it disappears from the Internet!), and will add hundreds of millions to the cost of operating an online platform, guaranteeing that Big Tech's biggest winners will never face serious competition and will rule the Internet forever.


Any EU politician who votes for this should be sentenced to life in prison or death for crimes against humanity.
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Master_Bass
09/06/18 3:22:44 PM
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I've heard about these proposed EU regulations before. They're the dumbest ideas I've ever heard of.
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davyheinz
09/06/18 3:25:12 PM
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Lol wtf is this shit
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snesmaster40
09/06/18 3:26:52 PM
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Wtf. Does that mean posting news links would not be allowed here unless Gamefaqs got a license?
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AlephZero
09/06/18 3:28:15 PM
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snesmaster40 posted...
Wtf. Does that mean posting news links would not be allowed here unless Gamefaqs got a license?

oi where's ur linking loicense
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DragonGirlYuki
09/06/18 3:29:17 PM
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The EU sure loves red tape.

It is funny that anti GDPR software has been made to prevent Europeans from accessing websites for those who don't want to bother complying with those regulations.
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P4wn4g3
09/06/18 3:29:43 PM
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This seems to contradict the basic human rights the EU likes to tote.

Anyway this is completely unenforceable, and if they decide fines are the solution then people will just host elsewhere and not sell to EU... so I'm not really sure what the point is. To fuck over Europeans I guess.
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Lordgold666
09/06/18 3:31:02 PM
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Wow

Eu can fuck right off
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s0nicfan
09/06/18 3:31:54 PM
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EU, more like Fourth Reich
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P4wn4g3
09/06/18 3:31:57 PM
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Ah wait this is a Proudclad topic, there's probably some catch.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/06/18 3:33:36 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Ah wait this is a Proudclad topic, there's probably some catch.


you must be incredibly fun at parties
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s0nicfan
09/06/18 3:33:48 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Ah wait this is a Proudclad topic, there's probably some catch.


Nope. I've been tracking this issue, and the issue of the way the EU treats tech in general, and it's actually as straight forward as it sounds. My personal theory is that they've realized that they can just fine International businesses as an added revenue stream, so they come up with a bunch of impossible rules that they won't enforce, and then when they need a windfall of cash they will just suddenly fine Google a billion dollars or something like that.
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snesmaster40
09/06/18 3:42:47 PM
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AlephZero posted...
snesmaster40 posted...
Wtf. Does that mean posting news links would not be allowed here unless Gamefaqs got a license?

oi where's ur linking loicense


Right next to my fork loicense.
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Solar_Crimson
09/06/18 3:49:46 PM
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These sound awful.
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Rika_Furude
09/06/18 3:54:27 PM
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Why do all governments suck so much when it comes to internet regulations. None of you people here on CE understand the internet, let alone some old corrupt politician...
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P4wn4g3
09/06/18 4:11:03 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Ah wait this is a Proudclad topic, there's probably some catch.


Nope. I've been tracking this issue, and the issue of the way the EU treats tech in general, and it's actually as straight forward as it sounds. My personal theory is that they've realized that they can just fine International businesses as an added revenue stream, so they come up with a bunch of impossible rules that they won't enforce, and then when they need a windfall of cash they will just suddenly fine Google a billion dollars or something like that.

Yeah. That's pretty ridiculous.
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CableZL
09/06/18 4:12:35 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Why do all governments suck so much when it comes to internet regulations. None of you people here on CE understand the internet, let alone some old corrupt politician...

I understand the internet
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DarkTransient
09/06/18 4:14:48 PM
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Maybe it's time to just cut Europe off from the rest of the internet.
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CableZL
09/06/18 4:15:33 PM
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If these regulations get put in place, it will be an absolute nightmare.
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Rika_Furude
09/06/18 4:58:56 PM
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CableZL posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Why do all governments suck so much when it comes to internet regulations. None of you people here on CE understand the internet, let alone some old corrupt politician...

I understand the internet

Yeah but youre a network engineer
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treewojima
09/06/18 5:11:34 PM
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yikes

I wonder how much lobbying was done to even bring this to the floor
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darkmaian23
09/08/18 12:58:12 AM
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Does anyone know how likely this is to pass? I apologize--I know I ask this in every topic--but for all the reading I've done, I don't know how serious the threat is.
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1337toothbrush
09/08/18 1:16:18 AM
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So fucking stupid. If these pass, it'd be best to just block the EU to quarantine the stupid.
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pikachupwnage
09/08/18 1:20:14 AM
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Its like they are actively trying to retroactively justify Brexit and make countries consider their own exits from the EU...
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EpicMickeyDrew
09/08/18 1:20:51 AM
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AlephZero posted...
snesmaster40 posted...
Wtf. Does that mean posting news links would not be allowed here unless Gamefaqs got a license?

oi where's ur linking loicense

Ironically this wouldn't affect the uk
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Bat178
09/08/18 1:28:56 AM
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Article 13 is completely unenforceable. The algorithm would overload and crash in minutes, and nobody is going go through every single post on every single website looking for copyrighted material. And again, TC is pretty much the only person on the internet freaking out about this.
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1337toothbrush
09/08/18 1:42:05 AM
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Bat178 posted...
Article 13 is completely unenforceable. The algorithm would overload and crash in minutes, and nobody is going go through every single post on every single website looking for copyrighted material. And again, TC is pretty much the only person on the internet freaking out about this.

Practicality doesn't matter in the face of giant media corporations and the politicians they've bought.
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Mist_Turnips
09/08/18 1:44:33 AM
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Every single person remotely connected to the EU needs to be executed tbh.
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Bat178
09/08/18 1:44:51 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Bat178 posted...
Article 13 is completely unenforceable. The algorithm would overload and crash in minutes, and nobody is going go through every single post on every single website looking for copyrighted material. And again, TC is pretty much the only person on the internet freaking out about this.

Practicality doesn't matter in the face of giant media corporations and the politicians they've bought.

And doesn't the US still have Fair Use?
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FLUFFYGERM
09/09/18 12:47:47 PM
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bump
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Rimmer_Dall
09/09/18 12:49:38 PM
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The EU was a mistake.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/09/18 12:52:42 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
The EU was a mistake.


The EU as a concept is not necessarily a mistake. The problem is that far-left radicals wield a lot of power and can push horse shit like this.
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Rimmer_Dall
09/09/18 12:59:39 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
The EU as a concept is not necessarily a mistake. The problem is that far-left radicals wield a lot of power and can push horse shit like this.

It goes deeper than that. When the EU was initially formed a lot of countries hesitated to throw in their lot with it, worried that the EU would become a superstate whose authority threatened the autonomy and sovereignty of its member states. The proponents insisted nothing like this would happen.

It did happen.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/09/18 1:00:07 PM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
The EU as a concept is not necessarily a mistake. The problem is that far-left radicals wield a lot of power and can push horse shit like this.

It goes deeper than that. When the EU was initially formed a lot of countries hesitated to throw in their lot with it, worried that the EU would become a superstate whose authority threatened the autonomy and sovereignty of its member states. The proponents insisted nothing like this would happen.

It did happen.


Time to bring back the guillotine tbqh
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FaytlessHearts
09/09/18 1:03:22 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
EU, more like Third Reich

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FLUFFYGERM
09/09/18 1:07:39 PM
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FaytlessHearts posted...
s0nicfan posted...
EU, more like Third Reich

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P4wn4g3
09/09/18 4:15:47 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
The EU was a mistake.


The EU as a concept is not necessarily a mistake. The problem is that far-left radicals wield a lot of power and can push horse shit like this.

These kinds of measures are right wing.
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UnfairRepresent
09/09/18 4:17:29 PM
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The Brexit just got 10 feet higher
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s0nicfan
09/09/18 4:18:10 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
The EU was a mistake.


The EU as a concept is not necessarily a mistake. The problem is that far-left radicals wield a lot of power and can push horse shit like this.

These kinds of measures are right wing.


Over regulation and excess taxation of businesses is a right wing thing?
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FLUFFYGERM
09/09/18 4:19:41 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
The EU was a mistake.


The EU as a concept is not necessarily a mistake. The problem is that far-left radicals wield a lot of power and can push horse shit like this.

These kinds of measures are right wing.


lmfao wtf are you blabbering about my dude?
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DarkTransient
09/09/18 4:20:52 PM
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Mist_Turnips posted...
Every single person remotely connected to the EU needs to be ... tbh.


That's a bit excessive, but I think at this stage it would be a reasonable step for websites outside the EU to cut off access from inside the EU. Not permanently, of course, just until the people of the EU start actually taking a stand against this crap.
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gamer167
09/09/18 4:20:59 PM
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EU is trash, no wonder the Brits dumped they ass
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Rika_Furude
09/09/18 4:23:18 PM
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I remember when people here were complaining about the UK leaving the EU...
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s0nicfan
09/09/18 4:24:03 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
I remember when people here were complaining about the UK leaving the EU...


Because at the time people bought in to the bullshit narrative that it was entirely motivated by racism.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/09/18 4:24:13 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
I remember when people here were complaining about the UK leaving the EU...


looks like the Brexiters were right

we should put together a list of people who opposed that so that we remember who not to trust in the future
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P4wn4g3
09/09/18 4:24:19 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
The EU was a mistake.


The EU as a concept is not necessarily a mistake. The problem is that far-left radicals wield a lot of power and can push horse shit like this.

These kinds of measures are right wing.


Over regulation and excess taxation of businesses is a right wing thing?

Yep
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