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Antifar 09/02/18 4:34:30 PM #1:	https://www.gamespot.com/articles/spider-man-ps4s-first-few-hours-have-everything-we/1100-6460894/ The parkour button isn't the only inspiration Insomniac's Spider-Man takes from an Ubisoft series, though. In a move that took me completely by surprise, Spider-Man incorporates the archaic mechanic of tower reveals, that is, points of interest that you have to find, travel to, and solve a puzzle at in order to reveal a map of the immediate area, as well as the locations of other points of interests like side missions, challenges, collectables, and Far Cry-style outposts. Each district of Manhattan represented in the game--Chinatown, Greenwich, Financial District, Hell's Kitchen, Midtown, Upper West Side, Central Park, Upper East Side, and Harlem--has a number of towers hidden within them, which you're required to activate before you're even able to see where you're going on your minimap. This is strange not only because the mechanic feels incredibly outdated--Ubisoft has moved on, their open-world franchises now focus on more organic discovery mechanics--but it just doesn't make characteristic sense. Insomniac has been pitching their version of Spider-Man as an experienced one, one that's been fighting crime in New York for nearly a decade, and it's incredibly puzzling that this Spider-Man hasn't internalized an intimate geographic knowledge of the city he protects. I don't believe him when he exclaims, "I'm flying blind here!" while swinging through world-famous Times Square, no matter what the tower MacGuffin might be. Any activity revealed by towers can still be found by naturally stumbling across them, and minor Spider-Man 2-style randomly-generated events, such as car crashes and armed robberies, also can pop up unannounced, which is great to see. But the emphasis on using towers to reveal them just seems like a huge misstep, a puzzling addition that feels like unnecessary filler. FWIW that's the only big criticism they have in these first impressions --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:907989459] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>https://www.gamespot.com/articles/spider-man-ps4s-first-few-hours-have-everything-we/1100-6460894/ <quote>The parkour button isn't the only inspiration Insomniac's Spider-Man takes from an Ubisoft series, though. In a move that took me completely by surprise, Spider-Man incorporates the archaic mechanic of tower reveals, that is, points of interest that you have to find, travel to, and solve a puzzle at in order to reveal a map of the immediate area, as well as the locations of other points of interests like side missions, challenges, collectables, and Far Cry-style outposts. Each district of Manhattan represented in the game--Chinatown, Greenwich, Financial District, Hell's Kitchen, Midtown, Upper West Side, Central Park, Upper East Side, and Harlem--has a number of towers hidden within them, which you're required to activate before you're even able to see where you're going on your minimap. This is strange not only because the mechanic feels incredibly outdated--Ubisoft has moved on, their open-world franchises now focus on more organic discovery mechanics--but it just doesn't make characteristic sense. Insomniac has been pitching their version of Spider-Man as an experienced one, one that's been fighting crime in New York for nearly a decade, and it's incredibly puzzling that this Spider-Man hasn't internalized an intimate geographic knowledge of the city he protects. I don't believe him when he exclaims, "I'm flying blind here!" while swinging through world-famous Times Square, no matter what the tower MacGuffin might be. Any activity revealed by towers can still be found by naturally stumbling across them, and minor Spider-Man 2-style randomly-generated events, such as car crashes and armed robberies, also can pop up unannounced, which is great to see. But the emphasis on using towers to reveal them just seems like a huge misstep, a puzzling addition that feels like unnecessary filler.</quote> FWIW that's the only big criticism they have in these first impressions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 09/02/18 4:35:08 PM #2:	Game keeps getting worse --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:907989481] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>Game keeps getting worse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YukihoHagiwara 09/02/18 4:35:48 PM #3:	werked for zelda and look at the scores it got it's clearly what gammers want --- 7Dd_jr_dF0Y <cite>YukihoHagiwara posted [p:907989522] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>werked for zelda and look at the scores it got it's clearly what gammers want</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 09/02/18 4:36:13 PM #4:	doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb. <cite>Zikten posted [p:907989541] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 09/02/18 4:36:19 PM #5:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHLLmh1fq1Q" data-time=" --- https://imgur.com/NngA1rp https://imgur.com/GRsCqBa <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:907989545] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHLLmh1fq1Q" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reis 09/02/18 4:38:52 PM #8:	Zikten posted... doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb. do you know how large nyc is <cite>Reis posted [p:907989687] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb.</quote> do you know how large nyc is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheDarkCircle 09/02/18 4:41:27 PM #10:	Scientific genius but can't read a damn MTA map smh <cite>TheDarkCircle posted [p:907989806] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>Scientific genius but can't read a damn MTA map smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 09/02/18 4:41:58 PM #11:	Reis posted... Zikten posted... doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb. do you know how large nyc is Hes been swinging around it for years now cmon dude --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:907989833] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reis posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb.</quote> do you know how large nyc is</quote> Hes been swinging around it for years now cmon dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stone 09/02/18 4:42:34 PM #12:	Zikten posted... doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb. Yeah it's ridiculous. Using the mechanics to reveal hidden collectibles or missions would make sense, but not revealing the actual map. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them <cite>stone posted [p:907989865] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb.</quote> Yeah it's ridiculous. Using the mechanics to reveal hidden collectibles or missions would make sense, but not revealing the actual map.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJCAT 09/02/18 4:44:39 PM #13:	contextually makes no sense but gameplay-wise it probably wont bug me tbh --- PSN: SUPER_KITTY_JAM FC: SW-2262-4005-7054 <cite>SSJCAT posted [p:907989962] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>contextually makes no sense but gameplay-wise it probably wont bug me tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Youngster_Joey_ 09/02/18 4:44:47 PM #14:	groans Thank god this is a PS4 exclusive otherwise it'd be just another mediocre Spider-Man game from the sounds of things. <cite>Youngster_Joey_ posted [p:907989970] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>groans Thank god this is a PS4 exclusive otherwise it'd be just another mediocre Spider-Man game from the sounds of things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 09/02/18 4:46:11 PM #15:	doesn't he carry a modern phone around? the hell would he need to "reveal" map for? --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg https://imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:907990056] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>doesn't he carry a modern phone around? the hell would he need to "reveal" map for?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkninja42 09/02/18 4:47:06 PM #16:	That's stupid but eh I'll get over I'm sure. Hopefully there's less than 10. --- I'm far from high end, I just know what suits me. <cite>Darkninja42 posted [p:907990104] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>That's stupid but eh I'll get over I'm sure. Hopefully there's less than 10.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EternalDivide 09/02/18 4:48:51 PM #17:	That makes no sense. In the context of the character that makes no sense at all. He lives in NYC plus with the whole Spider sense thing he should be able to radar-ish tell where everything is anyway even if he didn't live there. --- FFVII Remake: A disaster in the making. I'll laugh at whatever I find funny whether you like it or not. <cite>EternalDivide posted [p:907990205] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>That makes no sense. In the context of the character that makes no sense at all. He lives in NYC plus with the whole Spider sense thing he should be able to radar-ish tell where everything is anyway even if he didn't live there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Freddie_Mercury 09/02/18 4:50:26 PM #18:	but will we be able to use spider-vision and follow red lines around --- booty on the outside <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:907990293] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>but will we be able to use spider-vision and follow red lines around</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 09/02/18 4:51:50 PM #19:	Didn't bug me too much in Horizon or BotW Usually that's the first thing I do when the world opens up anyway. Go after all the towers From a story perspective it's dumb and feels needless but in terms of the effect it has on gameplay I doubt it'll bug me --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:907990365] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>Didn't bug me too much in Horizon or BotW Usually that's the first thing I do when the world opens up anyway. Go after all the towers From a story perspective it's dumb and feels needless but in terms of the effect it has on gameplay I doubt it'll bug me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Scarecrow 09/02/18 4:53:45 PM #20:	The more I hear about this game, the less I want to drop $60 on it. --- https://imgur.com/3Iqe55A <cite>The_Scarecrow posted [p:907990469] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>The more I hear about this game, the less I want to drop $60 on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 09/02/18 4:55:20 PM #21:	The_Scarecrow posted... The more I hear about this game, the less I want to drop $60 on it. with DQ XI coming out beforehand, I decided i'll pick up spider-man complete or whatever after the DLCs come out --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:907990556] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote><cite>The_Scarecrow posted...</cite> <quote>The more I hear about this game, the less I want to drop $60 on it.</quote> with DQ XI coming out beforehand, I decided i'll pick up spider-man complete or whatever after the DLCs come out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cthulhu_Fhtagn 09/02/18 5:09:38 PM #23:	Oh no something else to do in the game --- Last night I saw a superhero, he was black He said this is for the street... https://imgtc.com/i/1xVSRqT.png <cite>Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted [p:907991213] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>Oh no something else to do in the game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YukihoHagiwara 09/02/18 5:27:37 PM #24:	oh no dr connor's class --- 7Dd_jr_dF0Y <cite>YukihoHagiwara posted [p:907992085] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>oh no dr connor's class</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 09/03/18 12:58:07 AM #25:	Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted... Oh no something else to do in the game There's literally no logical explanation for why they'd do this, especially if this is an experienced Peter. Dude's lived there all his life there is no reason whatsoever the map would need to be revealed. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:908012554] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...</cite> <quote>Oh no something else to do in the game</quote> There's literally no logical explanation for why they'd do this, especially if this is an experienced Peter. Dude's lived there all his life there is no reason whatsoever the map would need to be revealed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cthulhu_Fhtagn 09/03/18 6:32:40 AM #26:	dave_is_slick posted... Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted... Oh no something else to do in the game There's literally no logical explanation for why they'd do this, especially if this is an experienced Peter. Dude's lived there all his life there is no reason whatsoever the map would need to be revealed. It's a super hero video game, guy. It's pretty weak that you need a reason for this. I don't know much about this game because I'm trying to go in fresh but maybe whatever is going on or collectibles is the reason for it? A personal update. Use your imagination. --- Last night I saw a superhero, he was black He said this is for the street... https://imgtc.com/i/1xVSRqT.png <cite>Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted [p:908020199] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...</cite> <quote>Oh no something else to do in the game</quote> There's literally no logical explanation for why they'd do this, especially if this is an experienced Peter. Dude's lived there all his life there is no reason whatsoever the map would need to be revealed.</quote> It's a super hero video game, guy. It's pretty weak that you need a reason for this. I don't know much about this game because I'm trying to go in fresh but maybe whatever is going on or collectibles is the reason for it? A personal update. Use your imagination.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 09/03/18 6:34:21 AM #27:	Why you babies cryin bout this?! --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:908020229] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>Why you babies cryin bout this?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthWendy 09/03/18 6:41:01 AM #28:	KiwiTerraRizing posted... Game keeps getting worse --- Ave Caesar, Rosae Rosam et Spiritus Rex ! - Voila, ca ne veut absolument rien dire mais l'effet reste le meme https://i.imgtc.com/eRE0ORV.jpg <cite>DarthWendy posted [p:908020336] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote><cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted...</cite> <quote>Game keeps getting worse</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperShake666 09/03/18 6:51:22 AM #29:	They probably chose towers to help people from getting overwhelmed by the map, tbh. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber <cite>SuperShake666 posted [p:908020508] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>They probably chose towers to help people from getting overwhelmed by the map, tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 09/03/18 7:46:32 AM #30:	Bullet_Wing posted... I kinda like that gameplay feature. Guess I'm in the minority there. Same. Kinda surprised so many people are pissed about it tbh Zikten posted... doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb. Have you ever been to NYC? Or any big city for that matter? --- Come become a wrestler in my Fire Pro Wrestling World GFaqs Franchise on YT (no game required): https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/839-games-n-things/76947060 <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:908021505] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>I kinda like that gameplay feature. Guess I'm in the minority there.</quote> Same. Kinda surprised so many people are pissed about it tbh <cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb.</quote> Have you ever been to NYC? Or any big city for that matter?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 09/03/18 7:50:52 AM #31:	Meh, it's a played out mechanic, but I don't think it'll hurt the overall experience. They'll probably justify it in-game by making Spider-Man sync the signal to his phone or some other techno whatever. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:908021604] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>Meh, it's a played out mechanic, but I don't think it'll hurt the overall experience. They'll probably justify it in-game by making Spider-Man sync the signal to his phone or some other techno whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sunhawk 09/03/18 7:53:03 AM #32:	I'm not sure if I like or dislike towers revealing things. Perhaps it's better to just let the player explorer. --- It has been 0 days since something interesting happened. A three hour tour, a three hour tour... <cite>Sunhawk posted [p:908021654] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure if I like or dislike towers revealing things. Perhaps it's better to just let the player explorer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l Dudeboy l 09/03/18 7:53:59 AM #33:	I've never had a problem with these, and don't understand other people's dislike for them. --- You are now breathing manually. Lets put a little lead in the air, and see what falls over. <cite>l Dudeboy l posted [p:908021668] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>I've never had a problem with these, and don't understand other people's dislike for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryven 09/03/18 7:54:59 AM #34:	Doesnt bug me. Its not like you cant go into an unmapped area anyways. --- 'We're not gonna make it, are we? People i mean.' 'It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.' <cite>Ryven posted [p:908021685] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>Doesnt bug me. Its not like you cant go into an unmapped area anyways.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 09/03/18 7:57:09 AM #35:	refmon posted... Reis posted... Zikten posted... doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb. do you know how large nyc is Hes been swinging around it for years now cmon dude yeah you really have no idea how big NYC is --- https://imgur.com/kpXTakw https://imgur.com/Pto3yPa http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:908021742] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote><cite>refmon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Reis posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>doesn't even make sense. Peter lives his entire life in NYC. he doesn't already know the city by heart? having to reveal the map is dumb.</quote> do you know how large nyc is</quote> Hes been swinging around it for years now cmon dude</quote> yeah you really have no idea how big NYC is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stone 09/03/18 8:00:08 AM #36:	Ryven posted... Doesnt bug me. Its not like you cant go into an unmapped area anyways. And if they want to restrict you, they can just limit areas until you reach a certain point in the story, making you walk or swing away of further areas with an excuse like "that's not where I need to go" as he turns around. Other games have used this method of limiting your visits of later areas before, and it worked fine. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them <cite>stone posted [p:908021819] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryven posted...</cite> <quote>Doesnt bug me. Its not like you cant go into an unmapped area anyways.</quote> And if they want to restrict you, they can just limit areas until you reach a certain point in the story, making you walk or swing away of further areas with an excuse like "that's not where I need to go" as he turns around. Other games have used this method of limiting your visits of later areas before, and it worked fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 09/03/18 9:58:08 AM #37:	Of all the things to complain about this seems like the least worrisome, regardless of if it "makes sense" or not. For gameplay reasons they probably didn't want to overwhelm the player. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:908025090] in The Spider... [t:76960593]...</cite> <quote>Of all the things to complain about this seems like the least worrisome, regardless of if it "makes sense" or not. For gameplay reasons they probably didn't want to overwhelm the player.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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